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  • SharkAA
    SBR MVP
    • 11-10-13
    • 2005

    #106
    SEA -1 @ -105 @ Bet365 right now. NE -3 @ +138 and NE -7 @ +210. I think that NE wins this by more than 1 TD, so I really like NE -7.
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    • Ironman07
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 05-16-10
      • 615

      #107
      The - 3 at 5 dimes was not soft... they just sucked public money on NE. Rule no 1 of NFL is not to put anything on last game perception. My line is either 3 or 3 1/2 on Seattle. all you Brady lovers need a hobby,
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      • SEAHAWKHARRY
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 11-29-07
        • 26068

        #108
        I know gamblers have freakin insane memory loss sea DENVER last year

        Sea fav right out the gate everyone jumped on new enhlsnd sea was +2.5 game time

        Awesome QB hall of fame type running explosive offense
        Against a great defense with no offense in sea

        I know the script on this one
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        • SharkAA
          SBR MVP
          • 11-10-13
          • 2005

          #109
          Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
          I know gamblers have freakin insane memory loss sea DENVER last year

          Sea fav right out the gate everyone jumped on new enhlsnd sea was +2.5 game time

          Awesome QB hall of fame type running explosive offense
          Against a great defense with no offense in sea

          I know the script on this one
          Broncos didn't have Belichick and it will be very hard to stop Gronk, who can do some damage and SEA run D has to face Blount as well. I really like this Seattle D but at the same time I'm afraid, that they're going to be outplayed.
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #110
            Originally posted by SharkAA
            Broncos didn't have Belichick and it will be very hard to stop Gronk, who can do some damage and SEA run D has to face Blount as well. I really like this Seattle D but at the same time I'm afraid, that they're going to be outplayed.
            the comparison to last year makes no sense whatsoever but i guess ppl gotta tell themselves something..
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #111
              Originally posted by SharkAA
              Broncos didn't have Belichick and it will be very hard to stop Gronk, who can do some damage and SEA run D has to face Blount as well. I really like this Seattle D but at the same time I'm afraid, that they're going to be outplayed.
              Yeah no shit cause they slapped belichick around in the AFC title game. Lol Blount won't run on sea. This isn't the colts defence. Brady has proven in the last 2 superbowl he wont do much vs a good d.
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              • SEAHAWKHARRY
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 11-29-07
                • 26068

                #112
                Originally posted by 2daBank
                the comparison to last year makes no sense whatsoever but i guess ppl gotta tell themselves something..
                Just like your telling yourself the patriots are the right side come on bank with these two teams its a crapshoot especially in a dome on the biggest stage of the year . You telling yourself one thing I'm telling myself another if we were correct all the time we wouldn't be on this site we wouldn't talk about it we wouldn't ever lose

                We both telling our selfs what we want to here

                Both teams have proven to win big games
                Both teams deserve to be there
                Both teams still have 60 mins to prove one of us wrong


                Btw Kam chanchlor will be fine against Gronk
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #113
                  Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                  Just like your telling yourself the patriots are the right side come on bank with these two teams its a crapshoot especially in a dome on the biggest stage of the year . You telling yourself one thing I'm telling myself another if we were correct all the time we wouldn't be on this site we wouldn't talk about it we wouldn't ever lose

                  We both telling our selfs what we want to here

                  Both teams have proven to win big games
                  Both teams deserve to be there
                  Both teams still have 60 mins to prove one of us wrong


                  Btw Kam chanchlor will be fine against Gronk
                  you can make plenty of convincing arguments for sea that dont include trying to compare this to last years gm. pats are nothing like the soft ass donks and their noodle arm qb.. im not gonna sit here and say pats are some lock, im pretty sure it be close. i believe pats will win and ive said why. i could tell ya all the reasons sea could win but you right i rather not!! none of the good reasons for either side include bringing up a gm that has nothing to do with this one. that all im saying, not saying im right or wrong. just saying that the fact a bunch of retards thought den was gonna win last year really has no barring on this gm. i certainly wasnt backing donks last year..
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                  • BigdaddyQH
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-09
                    • 19530

                    #114
                    Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                    Just like your telling yourself the patriots are the right side come on bank with these two teams its a crapshoot especially in a dome on the biggest stage of the year . You telling yourself one thing I'm telling myself another if we were correct all the time we wouldn't be on this site we wouldn't talk about it we wouldn't ever lose

                    We both telling our selfs what we want to here

                    Both teams have proven to win big games
                    Both teams deserve to be there
                    Both teams still have 60 mins to prove one of us wrong


                    Btw Kam chanchlor will be fine against Gronk
                    You have the two #1 seeds going at it again. The records are identical. Green Bay is the only common opponent. Seattle won twice in Seattle, the last game in OT,and New England lost by a point in Green Bay. New England has given up 38 points in their playoff games and Seattle 39. The line in Vegas (the ONLY line that counts as far as I am concerned) is a pick. That is just about as close as you get. Now watch this game be over by the 2nd quarter. Murphy's law.
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                    • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                      • 11-29-07
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                      #115
                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                      you can make plenty of convincing arguments for sea that dont include trying to compare this to last years gm. pats are nothing like the soft ass donks and their noodle arm qb.. im not gonna sit here and say pats are some lock, im pretty sure it be close. i believe pats will win and ive said why. i could tell ya all the reasons sea could win but you right i rather not!! none of the good reasons for either side include bringing up a gm that has nothing to do with this one. that all im saying, not saying im right or wrong. just saying that the fact a bunch of retards thought den was gonna win last year really has no barring on this gm. i certainly wasnt backing donks last year..
                      Brady against strong defense gives him fits. Point one

                      Very strong running game favors SEATTLE point two

                      Along with point two Russell wilsons ability to apply read option escape and improvise point 2.5

                      These are my points why I feel SEATTLE has the ability to win the Super Bowl against the patroits
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                      • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                        • 11-29-07
                        • 26068

                        #116
                        These above points have nothing to do with comparing the teams from last even though these same points were the reason for last year these arguments are justified
                        I believe you will have arguments that favor New England as well

                        Reason being this SUPERBOWL is a pick em

                        Turnovers will be the deciding factor as well as red zone defense
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                        • 2daBank
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 88966

                          #117
                          im sure sea will be able to run, i like your idea of lynch props..

                          the whole "brady vs strong defenses" im not sure i buy. is this being said because of the nyg superbowls? im sure i can find plenty of more recent examples of brady playing good vs a high quality defense. the nyg games were a long time ago and i really dont think their defense is anything even close to a favorable comparison. sea d is better overall then gmens were, their front 4 dont even come close tho..

                          while im sure sea will be able to run on pats im pretty confident pats can run on sea as well. living in stl ive watched the lambs cause sea problems every year with a power run gm and not much else, pats have other things you have to worry about and a pretty physical run gm themselves. as much as the zone read shit will give pats slower front 7 problems the same can be said for pats power run gm vs a smallish sea front 7 who isnt nearly as deep along the front line as they were last year..

                          ultimately tho it really doesnt matter, i think both offenses match up well, im not gonna say differently. i think it will be close. so i will repeat myself again, if it is close i much rather my money be on the greatest qb of this generation and bellicheat to cement their legacy.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #118
                            turnovers will decide I am sure

                            Too close to call
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                            • Microphone
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-08-08
                              • 2950

                              #119
                              Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                              Brady against strong defense gives him fits. Point one

                              Very strong running game favors SEATTLE point two

                              Along with point two Russell wilsons ability to apply read option escape and improvise point 2.5

                              These are my points why I feel SEATTLE has the ability to win the Super Bowl against the patroits

                              This is pretty spot on. I looked at the Super Bowls just the Patriots were in and the key is the rushing game (See Ohio State). Team D is important, but in Pats games, if the featured rusher gets 60-80 yards and the secondary guy gets 0-20, they've (in this case New England) have won. You're betting on Blount to have two good games in a row basically, because a one dimensional Brady vs. a good team goes down in flames most every time. Baltimore games will happen and there is no feature runner when you're playing from behind.

                              If Blount can rush, this could be a classic. New England's D is actually underrated and Seattle's O is underrated as well. I'm betting against a big rushing game for New England.
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                              • Big Bear
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-01-11
                                • 43253

                                #120
                                This is the super bowl matchup 95% of all people who watched football would have predicted before the season started.

                                There is no surprise whatsoever that these are the 2 teams left standing to play for the Super Bowl...

                                I think you just gotta throw yesterdays games out the window when handicappin this matchup.

                                Pretty much Seattle had just about everything go wrong that could have possibly went wrong in the 1st half yesterday.

                                If i am not mistaken Seattle already had 3 turnovers and not a single first down when the Packers went ahead 16-0.

                                From the 4th quarter on the Seahawks dominated but they had to bc they dug themselves in a deep hole
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                                • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 11-29-07
                                  • 26068

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                  im sure sea will be able to run, i like your idea of lynch props..

                                  the whole "brady vs strong defenses" im not sure i buy. is this being said because of the nyg superbowls? im sure i can find plenty of more recent examples of brady playing good vs a high quality defense. the nyg games were a long time ago and i really dont think their defense is anything even close to a favorable comparison. sea d is better overall then gmens were, their front 4 dont even come close tho..

                                  while im sure sea will be able to run on pats im pretty confident pats can run on sea as well. living in stl ive watched the lambs cause sea problems every year with a power run gm and not much else, pats have other things you have to worry about and a pretty physical run gm themselves. as much as the zone read shit will give pats slower front 7 problems the same can be said for pats power run gm vs a smallish sea front 7 who isnt nearly as deep along the front line as they were last year..

                                  ultimately tho it really doesnt matter, i think both offenses match up well, im not gonna say differently. i think it will be close. so i will repeat myself again, if it is close i much rather my money be on the greatest qb of this generation and bellicheat to cement their legacy.
                                  We both have correct assumptions and can go around and around on these two teams up until kickoff
                                  I will not bet against my team in the Super Bowl but I have not yet made a decision on betting on them
                                  Want to see what joe public pushes the # to



                                  Props I think we can put our heads together and come up with a few props banker

                                  Lynch rushing over is 1

                                  Looking at Wilson rushing yards and field goals over

                                  Receptions for lynch and GRONK as well
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                                  • GunShard
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-05-10
                                    • 10031

                                    #122
                                    Feel free to vote on who you believe will win the super bowl.
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                                    • Plopowitz
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 03-19-13
                                      • 163

                                      #123
                                      I'm not gonna analyze this one.
                                      Crapshoot. I'm rooting for Pats so that may be the basis of my play. I would have preferred if sea was coming off a better showing though. The weaker performance concerns me of a bounce-back-type scenerio.
                                      BOL !
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                                      • NYSportsGuy210
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-07-09
                                        • 11347

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                        me and many others were all over sea in that gm.. not gonna dig them up but they there.. pats are the play this go around. you cant out physical the pats like punk ass manning teams..
                                        Shut the penetrate up you d!cktard.
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                                        • sweep
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-09-10
                                          • 16753

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                          Shut the penetrate up you d!cktard.
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                            Shut the penetrate up you d!cktard.
                                            so tough on the interweb, yet so stupid..
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                                            • Grits n' Gravy
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 13024

                                              #127
                                              I am Pats fan so I won't bet against them. Thought Sea -2 would be the opener and close at NE -1.

                                              Kind of lean to NE winning by at least a td if Brady plays a clean game. Not throwing a pick on a pass he should know better than to attempt needs to stop. Gronk should have a lot of room if they try to cover him with just one guy. Having to double him frees up somebody else to have space too.

                                              On other side it would be helpful to use Hightower, Collins and possibly Ninkovich spy on Wilson and get some sort of pass rush from Jones. Seattle's big plays will come when Wilson can move his pocket so hit him when he rolls out or takes off.

                                              2 very smart coaches with 2 weeks to prepare makes for a great matchup.
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65657

                                                #128
                                                ^
                                                Spot on, use all the weapons, not just Edleman and Danny and Blount, get Jonas involved, throw the whole kitchen sink at Seattle.
                                                Fluke the Seahwaks are there to begin with
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                                                • kmarinouofm
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 8437

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by byronbb
                                                  Sharps hammering Pats from +3 -105 to +3 -119 on pinny. Pinny taking monster bets at 150k a pop. But public will dog hump pats in this spot 100% of the time. SHarps taking the 3 then buy back at game time as public lays into any number the pats get to.
                                                  like has been pk at piney from the jump... where are you seeing +3
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                                                  • kmarinouofm
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 8437

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                    ^
                                                    Spot on, use all the weapons, not just Edleman and Danny and Blount, get Jonas involved, throw the whole kitchen sink at Seattle.
                                                    Fluke the Seahwaks are there to begin with
                                                    Seattle Gave Green Bay every opportunity to win that game and they couldn't.

                                                    Seattle can have an awful game and still beat one of the best teams in the league. That doesn't worry you ?
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                                                    • bryanoens
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 09-28-12
                                                      • 224

                                                      #131
                                                      Before last weekend's games, hawks were -2.5 vs pats in a prop bet. The line swung cause of the Indy beat down. But that was due to Billicheat deflating balls..Hawks by 6
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                                                      • Big Bear
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 11-01-11
                                                        • 43253

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        ^
                                                        Spot on, use all the weapons, not just Edleman and Danny and Blount, get Jonas involved, throw the whole kitchen sink at Seattle.
                                                        Fluke the Seahwaks are there to begin with
                                                        Nasher you are embarrasing yourself pal.
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                                                        • BeanTownClown88
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-08-13
                                                          • 1961

                                                          #133
                                                          As a Pats fan, encouraging to see the D get broken down by a 1 legged Rodgers..Seattle was flying to start but once AR got to work, they were giving up all sorts of space and couldn't stop the run..The Pats finally have the personnel to stop a guy like Wilson. If they contain the run, that's it..Seattle will be relying on their defense to get them points..Brady is skilled enough to overcome a tough Seattle D, especially if they get the run going and wear them down.. Belichik is also a major advantage in this one..This is the best Pats team since 2004 and it's because the defense is great, and healthy..I think Earl Thomas and Sherman will be fine for this one too.
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                                                          • ringemup
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-24-08
                                                            • 2112

                                                            #134
                                                            The cardinal 3-rule may be in play Belicheck has lost the last 2 super bowls as favorites both times going against them a 3rd time could be deadly in my opinion. Sherman and Thomas sound like they are quite banged up even with 2 weeks rest I dont know if they will be anything close to even 90%( shoulder subluxation and elbow sprain). They key is Sherman if he plays with only his right arm he is far less dangerous to throw at. Seattle may struggle vs. a top secondary unit the Pats have Wilson likely in for another big test.
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                                                            • Calgunner23
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-06-15
                                                              • 1357

                                                              #135
                                                              PK for me! NE all the way
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65657

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                                                That doesn't worry you ?
                                                                No.
                                                                Petey can't prepare for what Petey doesn't know what's going to come at his defense
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65657

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                  Nasher you are embarrasing yourself pal.
                                                                  Bear, the only embarrassment here is when you look in the mirror.
                                                                  Run along, have a profittable night, quit trolling me.
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                                                                  • 2daBank
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by bryanoens
                                                                    Before last weekend's games, hawks were -2.5 vs pats in a prop bet. The line swung cause of the Indy beat down. But that was due to Billicheat deflating balls..Hawks by 6
                                                                    the line got bet down cause every person with a clue took pats at + anything. not because of last weeks gm. because when you can get + on pats you almost always take it, if you know what you doing anyway..
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65657

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by bryanoens
                                                                      Before last weekend's games, hawks were -2.5 vs pats in a prop bet. The line swung cause of the Indy beat down. But that was due to Billicheat deflating balls..Hawks by 6
                                                                      Oh, so the deflated ball allegations defeated the Colts, the fact they were whipped like a rented mule in the Grand Canyon by the Pats on offense, defense, and special teams had no affect whatsoever on the final score, what was it again 934 to 7?

                                                                      Unsubscribe please, that post was a waste of bandwidth.
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                                                                      • 2daBank
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #140
                                                                        most ironic thing bout this all..the squarest fukks on the planet talking about how every square is on the pats. i got news for you clowns saying this, if you on sea then every square isnt on the pats..
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