Congrats to the $10,000 + 180K betpoints NCAA Contest winners!

[SBR Forum]

Congrats to the $10,000 + 180K betpoints NCAA Contest winners!

Username	Score	Prize	1st tiebreaker	3* stars
Beats by Ray	30	$5,000
mike1234	28	$3,000
Hypercoagulables	27	$2,000
Ian	25	50K betpoints		5 3*
team yisman	25	50K betpoints		4 3*
sharkbite8	23	21,666 betpoints	71	4 3*
Invasor	23	21,666 betpoints	77	4 3*
TheMoneyShot	23	21,666 betpoints	84	4 3*
Team Final Four	23	27.5K betpoints	70	3 3*
daneblazer #2	22	5K betpoints	77	5 3*
Fab Five	22	5K betpoints	80	5 3*
Secretfish	22	5K betpoints	66	4 3*
Team Demolition	22	5K betpoints	66	4 3*
astro61200	22		87	3 3*
Team Grabbag	22		74	3 3*

[RudyRuetigger]

Congrats to all winners

lou check my inquiry pal

[dfish]

Another Great Contest SBR

[JAKEPEAVY21]

congrats to the winners! I'm surprised Team Demolition snuck into the money!!

[secretstash]

Nice job everyone.

Was a great contest.


-stash

[BigDaddy]

congrats to the winners

thanks again to SBR for the great contest/prizes

[sharkbite8]

Great contest! Thank you for running it this season!

[mikemca]

Congrats everyone...I have a question though.The tiebreaker was closest without going over(Price Is Right Style)where when someone thinks everyone went over they bid 1$ to 100% not go over.

The four of us on Ohio State all went over which should make the tiebreaker most 3* wins.

Sharkbite8,TheMoneyShot,and Invasor all had 4 wins 3* while Team Final Four had 3 wins.

Shouldn't our three teams have tied then for 6th,7th,and 8th?

[horja1]

[trytrytry]

Congrats everyone...I have a question though.The tiebreaker was closest without going over(Price Is Right Style)where when someone thinks everyone went over they bid 1$ to 100% not go over.

The four of us on Ohio State all went over which should make the tiebreaker most 3* wins.

Sharkbite8,TheMoneyShot,and Invasor all had 4 wins 3* while Team Final Four had 3 wins.

Shouldn't our three teams have tied then for 6th,7th,and 8th?

I tried VERY hard to have SBR clarify that poorly worded tiebreaker rule...

[BigDaddy]

wait whats the rule?

i went 4-1 in my 3* plays and lost out to tiebreaker

my bad i only had 21 pts

but team grab bag had 22 pts

gotta check how they did on 3 stars

[sharkbite8]

I thought the same thing, until I double checked the rules last night. The 3rd bullet point explains the over/under tiebreaker rule.

Contest rules

• Each entry/team captain picks 15 sides from lines posted in an official thread on December 17. Lines will not change. Pick denominations will be: Five 3*'s, Five 2*'s, Five 1*'s.
• All players MUST enter a 16th and final pick on the BCS Championship game. The pick denomination will be 4*. An official thread collecting the 16th pick will be posted Monday January 5. The final pick is due by Friday January 9 at 11:59PM ET.
• Along with the 16th pick, players must enter the total # of points scored in the BCS championship to serve as primary tiebreaker. Closest without going over wins. If two or more teams are still tied, the most # of 3* wins is backup tiebreaker. If still tied, prizes split.
• Pushes will return half of your bet. For example, if USC (-3) wins by 3, and they were a 2* play, you receive 1 star.

[mikemca]

I thought the same thing, until I double checked the rules last night. The 3rd bullet point explains the over/under tiebreaker rule.

Contest rules

• Each entry/team captain picks 15 sides from lines posted in an official thread on December 17. Lines will not change. Pick denominations will be: Five 3*'s, Five 2*'s, Five 1*'s.
• All players MUST enter a 16th and final pick on the BCS Championship game. The pick denomination will be 4*. An official thread collecting the 16th pick will be posted Monday January 5. The final pick is due by Friday January 9 at 11:59PM ET.
• Along with the 16th pick, players must enter the total # of points scored in the BCS championship to serve as primary tiebreaker. Closest without going over wins. If two or more teams are still tied, the most # of 3* wins is backup tiebreaker. If still tied, prizes split.
• Pushes will return half of your bet. For example, if USC (-3) wins by 3, and they were a 2* play, you receive 1 star.

Yeah closest without going over...We all went over

To be scored the way they did it should say closest without going under


Either way I'm not going to make a big fuss.Would just like a decision.

[BigDaddy]

if everyone went over it goes to 3 star plays

imo the tb should be 3 star plays to begin with

not some random total

[mikemca]

BTW congrats Beats By Ray...That is one impressive score

[trytrytry]

they need to list everyone who had 22 points or more...list the score, the first tiebreaker total, the second tiebreaker 3 star wins for all to see if they even have this list correct per the published rules on tiebreakers.. not so sure..

[BigDaddy]

they need to list everyone who had 22 points or more...list the score, the first tiebreaker total, the second tiebreaker 3 star wins for all to see if they even have this list correct per the published rules on tiebreakers.. not so sure..

i think a list is out with what people picked/tb

but with 20 different threads stuff is hard to find

[SBR Forum]

they need to list everyone who had 22 points or more...list the score, the first tiebreaker total, the second tiebreaker 3 star wins for all to see if they even have this list correct per the published rules on tiebreakers.. not so sure..

We are sorry you feel the rule was worded ambiguously. When players all go over the total, the closest to the actual total is the winner. 3* plays only break the tie when the TB score is identical.

[brooks85]

contest started off great, wish I could say it ended that way in light of developments.

whomever is running this thing should have their job on the line. Nothing personal but multiple times posters asked questions and received no answers. Resulting in a big mistake.

Just hope next year there is some actual clarity and what is the most important rule. Either unlimited teams or set a limit(an actual number, not just the word limit)

[JAKEPEAVY21]

stash, what was your total haul?

[Ra77er]

Thanks SBR for the contest! Don't have to be cheap and order off the dollar menu for once, look out taco bell boys

[brooks85]

We are sorry you feel the rule was worded ambiguously. When players all go over the total, the closest to the actual total is the winner. 3* plays only break the tie when the TB score is identical.

You worded it incorrectly. And were asked to clarify multiple times.

Thanks for the contest though, I'm sure next year will be smoother!

[mikemca]

We are sorry you feel the rule was worded ambiguously. When players all go over the total, the closest to the actual total is the winner. 3* plays only break the tie when the TB score is identical.

Then why stipulate this

Closest without going over wins.

Instead of

Closest to the total wins


Think you are inventing stuff now but whatever

It was fun

[trytrytry]

We are sorry you feel the rule was worded ambiguously. When players all go over the total, the closest to the actual total is the winner. 3* plays only break the tie when the TB score is identical.

you are sorry I feel that, thats nice of you to say.

I asked twice in the Q&A rules section before people needed to put in tiebreakers and got no reply.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3006091-ncaa-bowl-contest-questions-answers-10-000-cash-150k-betpoints.html#post23392433

..that is a bad ruling but the way on how you graded that on your made up extra rule.

but very generous prizes and people had lots of fun, lots of threads, lots of sidebets and good handicappin all bowl season...

[Ra77er]

It was possibly rigged due to my love for price is right contests

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/betpoints/3013373-monday-night-football-contest.html

[trytrytry]

not replied to or rules changed prior to tiebreaker picks.

I have a question on the total points tiebreaker..its clear but in a way perhaps one detail not clarified..

• Along with the 16th pick, players must enter the total # of points scored in the BCS championship to serve as primary tiebreaker. Closest without going over wins. If two or more teams are still tied, the most # of 3* wins is backup tiebreaker. If still tied, prizes split.

CLEAR: closest without going over rule....


if the game ends with 80 points scored

and the following people are tied for points after the 16th pick these 6 teams are all tied for 4th...with these tiebreakers what is the order..


person A 81 tiebreaker and #3 stars right 3
person B 88 tiebreaker and #3 stars right 4
person C 79 tiebreaker and #4 stars right 4
PErson D 79 tiebreaker and #4 stars right 4
PErson E 64 tiebreaker and #3 stars right 3
PERson F 64 tiebreaker and #3 stars right 4

is the final order
tie 4th player C
tie 4th player D

6th Player F
7th Player E

8th Player B
9th Player A




Im mostly wondering about 8th and 9th place per the rules.......

thanks..

[brooks85]

he has no choice but to say yes that is correct based on the literal wording lol

[SBR Forum]

Hi guys,

We apologize for whatever ambiguity there was with the tiebreaker rule. However, all tied contestants in the money went OVER the total, so although the rule stated "closest without going over", we applied the tiebreaker to reward the "closest". In the one instance where contestants had the same TB, we followed the posted rule of checking the # of 3* star wins before dividing the prize equally.

In other words, it's a wash, but we appreciate the feedback.

Username	Score	Prize	tiebreaker
Beats by Ray	30	$5,000
mike1234	28	$3,000
Hypercoagulables	27	$2,000
team yisman	25	50K betpoints
Ian	25	40K betpoints
Team Final Four	23	27.5K betpoints	70
sharkbite8	23	20K betpoints	71
Invasor	23	17.5K betpoints	77
TheMoneyShot	23	15K betpoints	84
Secretfish	22	5K betpoints	66	4/5 3*
Team Demolition	22	5K betpoints	66
Team Grabbag	22		74
daneblazer #2	22		77
Fab Five	22		80
astro61200	22		87

[daneblazer]

Probably my favorite contest on SBR. The way it's set up, even in losing, I was able to win. Hedged about $1400 on Ohio State. Could have won 1st and last if Oregon covered. I didn't have a good feeling about them covering. Probably will have a celebratory points give away bonanza soon and drop the hammer on the SBR Book posters parlay style

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Congrats winners

[RudyRuetigger]

i understand both sides here

tough call

no consolation for those that missed out, but atleast there are clearer rules for the future i guess.

[TheMoneyShot]

SBR Forum - Clearly the rules stated that if everyone went over with the totals... you then go to the most 3* selection.

There would of been a 3 way tie for 6th place. Therefore... you would add the payout for places 6th, 7th, 8th spot. A total of 65k points should of been divided by 3.

6th place tie Invasor 21,666 pts
6th place tie Sharkbite8 21,666 pts
6th place tie TheMoneyShot 21,666 pts
9th place Team Final Four 15,000 pts

That's how it should of been done. Seems like someone was lazy.

This is all according to all of your tie breaker rules.

I don't think it's fair for anyone when you change the rules.

[brooks85]

Probably my favorite contest on SBR. The way it's set up, even in losing, I was able to win. Hedged about $1400 on Ohio State. Could have won 1st and last if Oregon covered. I didn't have a good feeling about them covering. Probably will have a celebratory points give away bonanza soon and drop the hammer on the SBR Book posters parlay style

nice work. I was sitting pretty myself.

If oregon had cover all 4 of the teams I was on would have cashed in the top 10 so after hedging it was real nice to sit back.


Can't wait for next year, and March MadneSS!!!

[brooks85]

Thanks SBR for the contest! Don't have to be cheap and order off the dollar menu for once, look out taco bell boys

celebrate in style, order $25 or more online and get $5 off.

[Ra77er]

Wow there's a BJ's right by the arlington mall here, never been there though. Thanks Brooks