The Difference: Garrett played to win - Caldwell played not to lose

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  • Sam Odom
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    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    The Difference: Garrett played to win - Caldwell played not to lose


  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #2
    The Refs were worth 10 points in this game.
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      Bear , you need to STOP

      Your e-cred is taking a hit
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      • Big Bear
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-01-11
        • 43253

        #4
        Originally posted by Sam Odom
        Bear , you need to STOP

        Your e-cred is taking a hit
        there are already 10+ threads about this game why make another one?

        I dont give a fukk about my E-Cred. This game was rigged and you know it.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          exactly

          Caldwell should e fired

          He was reason they lost
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #6
            Don't disagree at all. Refs were absolute dogshit, though. That's undeniable.
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            • shaunovery
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-15-07
              • 18143

              #7
              In the 2h Detroit didn't blitz as much and tried to play coverage
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              • Dollars2Donuts
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-07-13
                • 8803

                #8
                The refs in this game made a small error or two....but they got the call right on that PI play.

                The refs in this game were 100x better than the crew that did the Arizona game.
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                • yahoonino
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-10-07
                  • 2651

                  #9
                  bad call lost for the lions, the reef decide that game,,,lions deserve to win that game
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                  • zert
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-09
                    • 1274

                    #10
                    They can call illegal contact on almost every pass play if they want to. They called off PI on Dallas when the db ran over the receiver.
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                    • No coincidences
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                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
                      The refs in this game made a small error or two....but they got the call right on that PI play.

                      The refs in this game were 100x better than the crew that did the Arizona game.
                      And Dez Bryant? Running onto the field to argue a penalty call with your helmet off is OK to do in the NFL now?
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                      • Dollars2Donuts
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-07-13
                        • 8803

                        #12
                        Nope. They missed that. My buddy (big Cowboys fan) was yelling at the idiot to get back to the bench. It simply should have been called....but is that really a football play? I see stuff like that get overlooked, especially in emotional times, in sports constantly.

                        A lot of sour grapes out there over this result.
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                        • Dollars2Donuts
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                          • 02-07-13
                          • 8803

                          #13
                          Sorry NoCoin, forgot you are a Detroit boy.

                          I get it man....but when the Canucks lost in the Finals to Boston.....I couldn't blame the refs....even though I have never seen a series with worse officiating....Boston constantly mugged the Sedins....the Canucks didn't overcome it.

                          Dez running into the field.....didn't affect the game. It just didnt.
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                          • No coincidences
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                            • 01-18-10
                            • 76300

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
                            Sorry NoCoin, forgot you are a Detroit boy.

                            I get it man....but when the Canucks lost in the Finals to Boston.....I couldn't blame the refs....even though I have never seen a series with worse officiating....Boston constantly mugged the Sedins....the Canucks didn't overcome it.

                            Dez running into the field.....didn't affect the game. It just didnt.
                            I'm not solely blaming the refs. The Lions did plenty to f\*\*k themselves.

                            Dez running on the field = unsportsmanlike conduct = automatic first down. So yeah, in that spot, it did affect the game. You can't throw a flag for PI, announce it, then pick it up for no reason and ignore the dude yelling at the refs with his helmet off on the field during the same play.
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                            • opie1988
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-12-10
                              • 23429

                              #15
                              Originally posted by yahoonino
                              bad call lost for the lions, the reef decide that game,,,lions deserve to win that game
                              Well....if they had scored more than the 3 points they scored in the 2nd half, maybe they would've.

                              Let's don't act like they were destined to win this game. Stafford is 0-18 LIFETIME against winning teams on the road.

                              Why would this have been any different than the first 17??
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                              • lakerboy
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #16
                                so sick of hearing about who this game was rigged. if the situation was reversed and it was dallas that got fukked over everyone would have laughed. the lions did fukk all after taking a 14-0 lead. any team that blows a 14-0 lead should not be deserving to win.
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by opie1988
                                  Well....if they had scored more than the 3 points they scored in the 2nd half, maybe they would've.

                                  Let's don't act like they were destined to win this game. Stafford is 0-18 LIFETIME against winning teams on the road.

                                  Why would this have been any different than the first 17??
                                  All true opie, but don't act like Romo has been any more clutch than Stafford in his career to date.

                                  Dallas had what, 1 playoff win in the last 18 years before yesterday?

                                  Let's face it: yesterday's game just came down to the lesser of two evils. Both are loser QBs until they finally prove otherwise. Beating the Lions at home on a miracle comeback doesn't prove anything. Romo wins in GB, then we can start to rewrite his legacy.
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                                  • mcdonae101
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-02-14
                                    • 3646

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                                    All true opie, but don't act like Romo has been any more clutch than Stafford in his career to date.

                                    Dallas had what, 1 playoff win in the last 18 years before yesterday?

                                    Let's face it: yesterday's game just came down to the lesser of two evils. Both are loser QBs until they finally prove otherwise. Beating the Lions at home on a miracle comeback doesn't prove anything. Romo wins in GB, then we can start to rewrite his legacy.
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                                    • R.P. McMurphy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-15-12
                                      • 9654

                                      #19
                                      That's the whole fukking point LB!!! The roles would have never been reversed not in this matchup. If you truly believe the league bends a bit for certain brands or QB's it's all about busine$$. Where is the monetary gain in helping grease Detroit past Dallas?? Yeah corporate sponsors, tv execs , etc everywhere were hoping Detroit won I'm sure.
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                                      • TwoWays
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                                        • 03-24-10
                                        • 13145

                                        #20
                                        detroit guys want to let caldwell go? ok, id like to see that and then see the result of 2015/16 lions watching the playoffs from home
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                                        • No coincidences
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                                          • 01-18-10
                                          • 76300

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TwoWays
                                          detroit guys want to let caldwell go? ok, id like to see that and then see the result of 2015/16 lions watching the playoffs from home
                                          Where are you seeing that?

                                          Caldwell was a meh hire for me, but hell, given the shitstorm of coaches that has come through Detroit since Fontes, he's OK in my book.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Caldwell should be fired

                                            Another dumb uneducated coach that got job to fill quotas
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                              That's the whole fukking point LB!!! The roles would have never been reversed not in this matchup. If you truly believe the league bends a bit for certain brands or QB's it's all about busine$$. Where is the monetary gain in helping grease Detroit past Dallas?? Yeah corporate sponsors, tv execs , etc everywhere were hoping Detroit won I'm sure.
                                              give it up pal. just give it up. the refs make mistakes in the nfl. its not the first time and it wont be the last. when players make mistakes they get pay raises. when refs fukk up they get tossed out by the league. sponsors want certain teams to win for sure but they have no control over it. did you know dallas has 2 playoff wins in the last 18 years? where were the guys to grease them by in the past?
                                              nfl games are not rigged. bad calls can help influence the outcome , the games are not predetermined.
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                                              • Eddy Munny
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-13-13
                                                • 15768

                                                #24
                                                Sam, you sneaky little oyster.

                                                You pretty much ripped me off verbatim, from the other Caldwell thread, in your heading of this thread.
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                                                • jtoler
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 12-17-13
                                                  • 30967

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by shaunovery
                                                  In the 2h Detroit didn't blitz as much and tried to play coverage
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                                                  • jtoler
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-17-13
                                                    • 30967

                                                    #26
                                                    Over 8 minutes left, I dont see too much wrong with punting with a lead to pin them back near endzone. Punting is not why they lost.
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                      Sam, you sneaky little oyster.

                                                      You pretty much ripped me off verbatim, from the other Caldwell thread, in your heading of this thread.

                                                      Really...

                                                      I put the title the way it is because that is bascally what is said in the linked video
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                                                      • pavyracer
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                        • 82839

                                                        #28
                                                        More refs wanted Cowboys to win. All calls against Lions.
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                                                        • Eddy Munny
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                                                          • 08-13-13
                                                          • 15768

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                          Really...

                                                          I put the title the way it is because that is bascally what is said in the linked video
                                                          Basically schmasically... I'm not buying any of that nonsense.

                                                          I'm probably gonna sue you if I have time.
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                                                          • Sam Odom
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-30-05
                                                            • 58063

                                                            #30
                                                            Hire Little Deemer. I understand he plans on being a slip & fall TV lawyer
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                                                            • frostno98
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                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 9769

                                                              #31
                                                              Dude your an idiot. The difference, Garrett Teams was down two touchdowns, they had no choice but to go for it on 4th down. Bill Belicheck is the only coach that wouldn't of punted in that situation, and only if he was having to punt to Peyton Manning. Everyone else would of done the same thing.
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                                                              • innovation
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-27-12
                                                                • 6218

                                                                #32
                                                                the only fix was the boyz not covering

                                                                mr automatic missed a FG on joe buck cue
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                                                                • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                                  • 13253

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by frostno98
                                                                  Dude your an idiot. The difference, Garrett Teams was down two touchdowns, they had no choice but to go for it on 4th down. Bill Belicheck is the only coach that wouldn't of punted in that situation, and only if he was having to punt to Peyton Manning. Everyone else would of done the same thing.
                                                                  Disagree....Many coaches out there would go for it in that exact situation, especially on the road as a dog

                                                                  Chip Kelly? Riverboat Ron Rivera? I know he's looking for a job now but Rex Ryan has gone for it in the playoffs in similar situations....multiple times in his early years with the Jets... Big reason why they pulled off a bunch of upsets

                                                                  I said this before, if you're deciding on what the correct strategy is....There is no question that Dallas WANTS them to punt there, what does that tell you?

                                                                  If I'm a Dallas fan, I want no part in having to stop a 4th and 1
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                                                                  • frostno98
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                                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                                    • 9769

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                                    Disagree....Many coaches out there would go for it in that exact situation, especially on the road as a dog

                                                                    Chip Kelly? Riverboat Ron Rivera? I know he's looking for a job now but Rex Ryan has gone for it in the playoffs in similar situations....multiple times in his early years with the Jets... Big reason why they pulled off a bunch of upsets

                                                                    I said this before, if you're deciding on what the correct strategy is....There is no question that Dallas WANTS them to punt there, what does that tell you?

                                                                    If I'm a Dallas fan, I want no part in having to stop a 4th and 1
                                                                    I highly doubted that anything you said occurred in the playoffs, and in game where they already had 3 point game where the defense played fairly well all day. River Ron did it last week, but it was because his team was losing early in the game and they needed momentum. Belicheck is the only one that does that, and he only does it because he had zero faith in his defense to stop the other team.
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                                                                    • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                      • 01-01-09
                                                                      • 13253

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by frostno98
                                                                      I highly doubted that anything you said occurred in the playoffs, and in game where they already had 3 point game where the defense played fairly well all day. River Ron did it last week, but it was because his team was losing early in the game and they needed momentum. Belicheck is the only one that does that, and he only does it because he had zero faith in his defense to stop the other team.
                                                                      Bill Bel is not the only coach that goes for it there...it's just a lie and speculation at best

                                                                      I'm not even saying it's a terrible call to punt there either, but it's the wrong one IMO

                                                                      Even if you don't get it you have to stop them anyway....Good chance you get it though and control the game from there

                                                                      What would YOU do if you were the coach?
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