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  • thetrinity
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    • 01-25-11
    • 22431

    #36
    Originally posted by BigDofBA
    The SEC East did well BC they played weak teams.

    The best from the SEC have been getting dominated by the best from the rest of the country.

    SEC offenses are behind the curve. This is why their defensive statistics are so good.

    All of these big bad SEC West teams are getting shredded.

    This isn't 2008-2012. The SEC isn't superior anymore.

    Hopefully they won't start the year with like 7 teams in the top 15 next year. That gives them a huge advantage.

    Remember when A&M and South Carolona were in the top 10? LMAO
    arkansas and texas a and m also beat crap teams, thats my point though, the conference had a bunch of teams that were good not great but they all got ranked as great teams.
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    • TwoWays
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      • 03-24-10
      • 13145

      #37
      Barf! Let's not hear about SEC anymore. No more bias fckers. Georgia tech would roll both Ohio st and alabama
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      • thetrinity
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        • 01-25-11
        • 22431

        #38
        Originally posted by TwoWays
        Barf! Let's not hear about SEC anymore. No more bias fckers. Georgia tech would roll both Ohio st and alabama
        I'd hope we see reasonable rankings next year and not their whole conference in the top 25.
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        • SilverTongueFox
          SBR MVP
          • 11-23-10
          • 2338

          #39
          Originally posted by BigDofBA
          The SEC East did well BC they played weak teams.

          The best from the SEC have been getting dominated by the best from the rest of the country.

          SEC offenses are behind the curve. This is why their defensive statistics are so good.

          All of these big bad SEC West teams are getting shredded.

          This isn't 2008-2012. The SEC isn't superior anymore.

          Hopefully they won't start the year with like 7 teams in the top 15 next year. That gives them a huge advantage.

          Remember when A&M and South Carolona were in the top 10? LMAO
          Remember when Okla was top 3 and TCU unranked. Other than Bama these bowls don't mean squat. It's a nice vacation with a whole bunch of free stuff. Ridiculous these bowls happen 3/4 wks after season. Sit around get fat & lazy then go play a bowl. Pac 12 #2 got beat by non power 5 team. Big 12 #1 got beat. Bowl games don't define strength of conf.

          SEC may not win 7/8 straight nat'l titles again but still best conf in college football.
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          • BigDofBA
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            • 09-30-09
            • 19313

            #40
            Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
            Remember when Okla was top 3 and TCU unranked. Other than Bama these bowls don't mean squat. It's a nice vacation with a whole bunch of free stuff. Ridiculous these bowls happen 3/4 wks after season. Sit around get fat & lazy then go play a bowl. Pac 12 #2 got beat by non power 5 team. Big 12 #1 got beat. Bowl games don't define strength of conf.
            I agree with you to an extent but that's also an excuse. The SEC is winning the meaningless bowls and losing the bowls that mean something.

            You can't say the SEC is the greatest Conference when they win bowl games and then say it doesn't matter when they lose.

            I'm arguing that there is parity all across CFB and teams that can play in every conference.

            The SEC isn't superior like it was 5 years ago.

            They shouldn't have five teams ranked in the pre-season top 10.
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            • TwoWays
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              • 03-24-10
              • 13145

              #41
              Tcu obviously had a devastatingly strong team this year and should have been included in these playoffs
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              • BigDofBA
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                • 09-30-09
                • 19313

                #42
                The playoffs needs to be 8 teams.

                Five automatic bids to the power conferences and three at large bids.
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                • SilverTongueFox
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                  • 11-23-10
                  • 2338

                  #43
                  Originally posted by BigDofBA
                  I agree with you to an extent but that's also an excuse. The SEC is winning the meaningless bowls and losing the bowls that mean something.

                  You can't say the SEC is the greatest Conference when they win bowl games and then say it doesn't matter when they lose.

                  I'm arguing that there is parity all across CFB and teams that can play in every conference.

                  The SEC isn't superior like it was 5 years ago.

                  They shouldn't have five teams ranked in the pre-season top 10.
                  Dude, you can't cherry pick SEC bowl wins and call the bowl "meaningless. We both know only the Rose & Sugar have any bearing on nat'l title. The rest are all 'meaningful' or 'meaningless.' It's either a bowl win or a bowl lose.

                  SEC rarely dominates bowl season. Usually have some nices wins and some bad losses. I believe SEC is best conf regardless of outcome of silly bowls.

                  There has been parity in college football for awhile now. It's just that the SEC had the best team every year for about 8,9,10 years.

                  7 teams might be much for top 10 but to have 3,4 best teams in football is not a stretch for SEC.
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                  • BigDofBA
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                    • 09-30-09
                    • 19313

                    #44
                    Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
                    Dude, you can't cherry pick SEC bowl wins and call the bowl "meaningless. We both know only the Rose & Sugar have any bearing on nat'l title. The rest are all 'meaningful' or 'meaningless.' It's either a bowl win or a bowl lose.

                    SEC rarely dominates bowl season. Usually have some nices wins and some bad losses. I believe SEC is best conf regardless of outcome of silly bowls.

                    There has been parity in college football for awhile now. It's just that the SEC had the best team every year for about 8,9,10 years.

                    7 teams might be much for top 10 but to have 3,4 best teams in football is not a stretch for SEC.
                    I agree with you more than you think. I would rank the PAC-12 one his year and the SEC two but it's all debateable.

                    I'm just tired of the media sucking off the SEC like it's the NFL and the rest of teams are high school caliber.
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                    • MoneyLineDawg
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                      • 01-01-09
                      • 13253

                      #45
                      SEC winning the "meaningless" bowls just speaks to the depth they have

                      No one ever said other conferences can't compete at the top with a few good teams, but my argument was always the SEC is like 8-10 legit teams deep every season.....It makes for a very tough schedule for all the SEC teams with very few cupcakes

                      Definitely disappointing in the "big" bowl games this season but it hasn't been the case for a long time
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                      • NYSportsGuy210
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-07-09
                        • 11347

                        #46
                        Wow after today I must say....this thread does have relevance. Maybe parody is back in college football.

                        I did notice that it was harder to bet NCAA football across the board this year than it has been in the last four seasons.

                        Kudos. Next year will be great.....congrats to Oregon for finally winning a National Championship.
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                        • thetrinity
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                          • 01-25-11
                          • 22431

                          #47
                          Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                          Wow after today I must say....this thread does have relevance. Maybe parody is back in college football.

                          I did notice that it was harder to bet NCAA football across the board this year than it has been in the last four seasons.

                          Kudos. Next year will be great.....congrats to Oregon for finally winning a National Championship.
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                          • Wrigley
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                            • 12-28-07
                            • 7268

                            #48
                            And with harbaugh going to Michigan the Big Ten will be the ultimate show in CFB in 2-3 years
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                            • thefonzo
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-10-10
                              • 671

                              #49
                              Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                              Idiotic post. And all three SEC teams will win on New Years Day...so it's not the end of the world.
                              How'd that one work out for ya?
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                              • thefonzo
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-10-10
                                • 671

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Wrigley
                                And with harbaugh going to Michigan the Big Ten will be the ultimate show in CFB in 2-3 years
                                Big ten east is gonna be tough assuming Mich and PSU turn it around and join OSU and Mich St.
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                                • swag1982
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                                  • 01-25-14
                                  • 1076

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
                                  Remember when Okla was top 3 and TCU unranked. Other than Bama these bowls don't mean squat. It's a nice vacation with a whole bunch of free stuff. Ridiculous these bowls happen 3/4 wks after season. Sit around get fat & lazy then go play a bowl. Pac 12 #2 got beat by non power 5 team. Big 12 #1 got beat. Bowl games don't define strength of conf.

                                  SEC may not win 7/8 straight nat'l titles again but still best conf in college football.
                                  Give me a break if the sec is so dominant schedule tougher out of conference instead of playing fcs teams in weak 9 these games r the last games for a lot of seniors u think they don't care if they go out like some bitches of course they want to win u r delusional if u think otherwise
                                  the sec is just another competitive conference
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                                  • allabout the $$$
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                                    • 04-17-10
                                    • 9843

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                    Idiotic post. And all three SEC teams will win on New Years Day...so it's not the end of the world.
                                    this is the idiotic post 2 out of the 3 went down go back to the gas station because you dont know shit about sports
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                                    • MTek
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                                      • 11-18-08
                                      • 1381

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                      SEC winning the "meaningless" bowls just speaks to the depth they have

                                      my argument was always the SEC is like 8-10 legit teams deep every season.....It makes for a very tough schedule for all the SEC teams with very few cupcakes
                                      You can't overlook the fact that the SEC rounds out its non-conference schedules with cupcakes extreme ...IE...FCS teams
                                      Funny, CNN threw out a stat that the SEC was 28-2 in non-conference games this year......well that ain't difficult when you feast on Coastal Carolina and Wollford

                                      The eye test this bowl season is not only did SEC teams lose, they were exposed. The "SEC defense" had is shit pushed in by every team in every imaginable way
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                                      • CarterTown
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                                        • 09-06-14
                                        • 215

                                        #54
                                        Fondo wtf with that picture Dude?
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                                        • Da Manster!
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                                          • 07-13-07
                                          • 17720

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by MTek
                                          You can't overlook the fact that the SEC rounds out its non-conference schedules with cupcakes extreme ...IE...FCS teams
                                          Funny, CNN threw out a stat that the SEC was 28-2 in non-conference games this year......well that ain't difficult when you feast on Coastal Carolina and Wollford

                                          The eye test this bowl season is not only did SEC teams lose, they were exposed. The "SEC defense" had is shit pushed in by every team in every imaginable way
                                          I've been saying this for years...Listening to some of these blowhards in the media saying how this year will be the first time no SEC team has played for the National championship since 2005...well, duh!...because this is the first time there was a playoff and you had to actually EARN it instead of it being handed to you on a silver platter...that is why the BCS and bowl systems were laughable and not to metion the biased AP and coaches polls...paper and fictional championships for years because of no playoffs...the irony of it is that under the old system, Ohio ST and Oregon probably would have gotten left out and the voters would have selected Alabama and FLA ST to play for the championship!...funny how perception and reality change when you have to actually prove it on the gridiron!...
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                                          • MoneyLineDawg
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                                            • 01-01-09
                                            • 13253

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by MTek
                                            You can't overlook the fact that the SEC rounds out its non-conference schedules with cupcakes extreme ...IE...FCS teams
                                            Funny, CNN threw out a stat that the SEC was 28-2 in non-conference games this year......well that ain't difficult when you feast on Coastal Carolina and Wollford

                                            The eye test this bowl season is not only did SEC teams lose, they were exposed. The "SEC defense" had is shit pushed in by every team in every imaginable way
                                            Almost every team in the power conferences schedule cupcakes.....Such a myth that only the SEC does this

                                            FCS teams or MAC garbage....does it really make a big difference?

                                            Look at the SEC team schedules, they all have atleast 1 and sometimes 2 quality out of conferences games

                                            Pac 12 seems to be the best at scheduling quality out conference opponents
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                                            • MoneyLineDawg
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                                              • 01-01-09
                                              • 13253

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                              I've been saying this for years...Listening to some of these blowhards in the media saying how this year will be the first time no SEC team has played for the National championship since 2005...well, duh!...because this is the first time there was a playoff and you had to actually EARN it instead of it being handed to you on a silver platter...that is why the BCS and bowl systems were laughable and not to metion the biased AP and coaches polls...paper and fictional championships for years because of no playoffs...the irony of it is that under the old system, Ohio ST and Oregon probably would have gotten left out and the voters would have selected Alabama and FLA ST to play for the championship!...funny how perception and reality change when you have to actually prove it on the gridiron!...
                                              Sorry but no one actually beat SEC teams heads up IN the championship game for that stretch

                                              Ohio State was like 0-11 against SEC teams until last night

                                              Also check the Bowl Records for all conferences in the last decade

                                              SEC wasn't amazing THIS season but they have easily been the best over the last decade or so, not really debatable
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                                              • Mr KLC
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                                                • 12-19-07
                                                • 31097

                                                #58
                                                Atlantic Coast Conference Chips Away at SEC’s Dominance

                                                BLACKSBURG, Va. — The persistent smears of Atlantic Coast Conference football have subsided. Florida State won a national championship in 2013, and Clemson had a near miss in the title game last season. The emergence of Louisville and its Heisman Trophy-contending quarterback, Lamar Jackson, has given the league another reputable team, one of six from the conference that have spent time in the Top 25 this season, and one of the four to make the Top 10.

                                                So when John Swofford, the A.C.C. commissioner, glanced over his shoulder here Thursday night inside Lane Stadium as the Miami and Virginia Tech teams warmed up, he knew he did not have to deal in hope and public relations any longer. The A.C.C. is marching up the ladder in Power 5 football because it is improving its depth.

                                                “We’re really good at the top of the conference right now with Clemson, Louisville and Florida State,” Swofford said. “Miami and Virginia Tech are close to being back where they had been. So I talk about our football the way I talk about our basketball. It is pretty brutal competitively within the league itself, and that’s what is important from a fan standpoint and a reputation standpoint.”


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                                                • qwertvt
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                                                  • 12-04-09
                                                  • 1419

                                                  #59
                                                  It's simple -

                                                  SEC West is the best in college football and the East is weak.

                                                  Like it or not, Bama wins it all.
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                                                  • jjgold
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                                                    • 07-20-05
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                                                    #60
                                                    Queerly nailed it

                                                    Even the bad teams are still good vs other teams across the country
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                                                    • Bbfromgpt
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                                                      • 09-24-12
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Salmon Steak
                                                      Can Missouri save the SEC?

                                                      I think teams like Notre Dame and Georgia Tech have shown how weak the SEC really is. Oregon seems like a lock now to win the championship. SEC = overrated.

                                                      You mean the conference that is guaranteed to win it all......again
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                                                      • Mr KLC
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                                                        • 12-19-07
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                                                        #62
                                                        With SEC Media Days starting Monday, members of the college football media will be making their picks for which team wins each division and ultimately the conference championship game in Atlanta.

                                                        Paul Finebaum decided to announce his picks before the fun in Hoover, Ala. gets started during a Sunday appearance on SportsCenter. Finebaum is thinking Florida and Alabama will meet for the third-straight year in December. He also thinks Nick Saban will make it three in a row over his former offensive coordinator, Florida coach Jim McElwain.

                                                        Listeners and viewers of “The Paul Finebaum Show” know that the host has publicly gone back and forth between Florida and Georgia for winning the SEC East. Pressed to make a pick, Finebaum sided with the defending SEC East champions.

                                                        “The East is really the only challenge, and you go back and forth between Georgia and Florida,” he said. “I’m not sure that Jacob Eason at quarterback makes Georgia quite ready. Now, you say what about Florida with Feleipe Franks and Malik Zaire. But I think overall, Florida has the best schedule. They have five SEC games at home, thanks to the debacle last year with LSU.”

                                                        When it came to picking the SEC West, Finebaum said it was quite obvious.

                                                        “Is that a fair question? Alabama will definitely come out of the West, and I like Alabama — surprise, surprise — to win the SEC.”
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                                                        • unde0087
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                                                          • 03-27-08
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                                                          #63
                                                          Salmon, One thing we do know is SEC will have damn near every team ranked in the top 25 to start the season. That way no matter how bad it gets at least the 2 teams that emerge at the end of the season can say they played 7 ranked SEC teams, even though 70% of them were mediocre at best. Business as usual
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                                                          • daneblazer
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                                                            • 09-14-08
                                                            • 27861

                                                            #64
                                                            Alabama over Georgia in the SEC Title game

                                                            Kirby Smart can recruit, we will find out soon if he can coach
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                                                            • daneblazer
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                                                              • 09-14-08
                                                              • 27861

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by unde0087
                                                              Salmon, One thing we do know is SEC will have damn near every team ranked in the top 25 to start the season. That way no matter how bad it gets at least the 2 teams that emerge at the end of the season can say they played 7 ranked SEC teams, even though 70% of them were mediocre at best. Business as usual
                                                              Dunno about this year. Will have the usual suspects. Alabama LSU Auburn Florida Georgia. Other than that, not sure who else will be in the top 25. Maybe Tennessee or Ole Miss
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                                                              • Mr KLC
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                                                                • 12-19-07
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                                                                #66
                                                                The Florida State/Alabama game to start the college football season is going to be amazing.
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