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  • SplitAces
    SBR Sharp
    • 09-22-12
    • 434

    #1
    Navy over SDS
    SDS has one quality win all season. I know it was against a similar team to Navy(Air Force) which makes you worry but look deeper.
    4 turnovers by Air Force was the only reason they won.
    I'll take Navy in this spot as SDS is very inconsistent and based of a season with 1 quality win the price is right.

    Large Play on Navy +3.
  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #2
    Originally posted by SplitAces
    SDS has one quality win all season. I know it was against a similar team to Navy(Air Force) which makes you worry but look deeper.
    4 turnovers by Air Force was the only reason they won.
    I'll take Navy in this spot as SDS is very inconsistent and based of a season with 1 quality win the price is right.

    Large Play on Navy +3.
    no doubt
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    • Da Manster!
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-07
      • 17720

      #3
      I'm on SDST at -2.5....they are more more physical and athletic than Navy....RB Donel Pumphrey is a poor man's version of Warrick Dunn at 5' 9" 170 lbs but has great power, juke moves, and speed for his size...Best RB in the country that nobody's heard about...If he was doing this at one of the big five conferences he would have been a heisman trophy invite...Very similar to Melvin Gordon's numbers...Look at his stats:

      GP ATT YDS AVG TDS
      12 255 1755 6.9 19

      I don't swear by the transitive property, but it's a good tool to use as a barometer when handicapping two teams that haven't played each other head to head...the two common opponents that these teams played were Air Force and SJST...Navy lost to Air Force 30 - 21 and beat SJST 41 - 31...San Diego ST beat Air Force 30 - 14, and destroyed SJST 38 - 7....I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin!........SDST is my best bet of the day!...
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      • mpaschal34
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-04-13
        • 12087

        #4
        see a lot of love for my fellow mid's today. i think it will be a tough battle for them. that's a long way to travel and i know their finals are much different from these other schools so they are probably worn out. yes, some football players take real finals. just got to hope their discipline can overcome these obstacles. i couldn't go against my team, but i do think this will be a tough game for them.
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        • Big Bear
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-01-11
          • 43253

          #5
          Originally posted by mpaschal34
          see a lot of love for my fellow mid's today. i think it will be a tough battle for them. that's a long way to travel and i know their finals are much different from these other schools so they are probably worn out. yes, some football players take real finals. just got to hope their discipline can overcome these obstacles. i couldn't go against my team, but i do think this will be a tough game for them.
          seeing a lot of love for Navy???? where ????

          OP is the only poster i've seen other than myself on Navy.

          San diego state is an awful football team. They lost to fukkin UNC!

          Also Navy should be sharp having played just 10 days ago.

          SD State will be rusty as hell having a 24 day layoff and they are unmotivated bc its just another game at Qualcomm where nobody in san diego gives a flying fukk about this shitty program of SDSU
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          • SplitAces
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-22-12
            • 434

            #6
            Please tell me this is a joke.
            Stats are only decent because of competition.
            Check stats per game per opponent. JJ Gold could run against a few of these awful teams SDS has played.
            New Mexico he ran for 246....Boise ran for 296 and had over 650 combined yards. Airfare ran for 269 against them too.
            Need to dig a little deeper and make sure your connection and assumptions make sense and hold true. Competition is a very important component.
            Reason not many has heard of this RB is because he is not that good. He was a 3 star recruit of high school with no size. Will get some stats today but not a game changer.

            Not huge fan of Navy but they are little better than they showed in Army game and betting more on SDS inability to win vs. any quality opponents without 4 turnovers.

            Originally posted by Da Manster!
            I'm on SDST at -2.5....they are more more physical and athletic than Navy....RB Donel Pumphrey is a poor man's version of Warrick Dunn at 5' 9" 170 lbs but has great power, juke moves, and speed for his size...Best RB in the country that nobody's heard about...If he was doing this at one of the big five conferences he would have been a heisman trophy invite...Very similar to Melvin Gordon's numbers...Look at his stats:

            GP ATT YDS AVG TDS
            12 255 1755 6.9 19

            I don't swear by the transitive property, but it's a good tool to use as a barometer when handicapping two teams that haven't played each other head to head...the two common opponents that these teams played were Air Force and SJST...Navy lost to Air Force 30 - 21 and beat SJST 41 - 31...San Diego ST beat Air Force 30 - 14, and destroyed SJST 38 - 7....I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin!........SDST is my best bet of the day!...
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            • Dirty Sanchez
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-01-10
              • 16031

              #7
              A couple of stats that I found when looking into SDS was The UNDER is 11-1 in San Diego State’s games this year which is interesting...and San Diego State’s run defense (145.6 YPG, ranked 42nd) has faced two triple-options this year in New Mexico and Air Force, allowing just 146 YPG on the ground.
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #8
                Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                A couple of stats that I found when looking into SDS was The UNDER is 11-1 in San Diego State’s games this year which is interesting...and San Diego State’s run defense (145.6 YPG, ranked 42nd) has faced two triple-options this year in New Mexico and Air Force, allowing just 146 YPG on the ground.
                air force would have won but they turned it over 4 times
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                • 2daBank
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                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Big Bear
                  air force would have won but they turned it over 4 times
                  sds coach has a history of his teams playing well vs the option..
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                  • donkbetter
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-03-11
                    • 314

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                    sds coach has a history of his teams playing well vs the option..
                    Im betting sd state from what i read on covers.com that convinced me they are the bet
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                      sds coach has a history of his teams playing well vs the option..
                      i keep hearing that... litterally everywhere EOG, RX Forum, Covers...

                      apparently that coach was D-Coordinator when SD State blew out Navy a few years ago.

                      Tonight is about revenge. The SDSU coach wont be tackling anybody tonight and if the option is executed properly you cant stop it.
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                      • 2daBank
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                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        i keep hearing that... litterally everywhere EOG, RX Forum, Covers...

                        apparently that coach was D-Coordinator when SD State blew out Navy a few years ago.

                        Tonight is about revenge. The SDSU coach wont be tackling anybody tonight and if the option is executed properly you cant stop it.


                        that is far from true. but whatever floats your boat..
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                        • Big Bear
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                          • 11-01-11
                          • 43253

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                          [/B]

                          that is far from true. but whatever floats your boat..
                          if it wasnt true then Navy would pass more.

                          teams know its coming and still cant stop it.
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                          • Duckshit
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-06-10
                            • 7964

                            #14
                            Bear.... U made ur Bet, Why are you trying to SELL THIS LOSER LIKE A USED CAR.... your everywhere!
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                            • Big Bear
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 11-01-11
                              • 43253

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Duckshit
                              Bear.... U made ur Bet, Why are you trying to SELL THIS LOSER LIKE A USED CAR.... your everywhere!

                              gave yall 2 winners yesterday. Just here to help.

                              i guess i will move on to the next game
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                              • jtoler
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-17-13
                                • 30967

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                seeing a lot of love for Navy???? where ????

                                OP is the only poster i've seen other than myself on Navy.

                                San diego state is an awful football team. They lost to fukkin UNC!

                                Also Navy should be sharp having played just 10 days ago.

                                SD State will be rusty as hell having a 24 day layoff and they are unmotivated bc its just another game at Qualcomm where nobody in san diego gives a flying fukk about this shitty program of SDSU
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Big Bear
                                  if it wasnt true then Navy would pass more.

                                  teams know its coming and still cant stop it.
                                  it works cause teams dont see it and it a pain to prepare for. if it was "unstoppable" more teams besides no talent schools would run it like in the 50s. it actually just the opposite of you say, it more like it is totally useless if the defense is properly coached and plays assignment fb which many times is easier said than done cause it not real glamorous.

                                  have you seen option schools try and pass? they running that crap cause they incapable of passing..
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                                  • Snowball
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                                    • 11-15-09
                                    • 30058

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Duckshit
                                    Bear.... U made ur Bet, Why are you trying to SELL THIS LOSER LIKE A USED CAR.... your everywhere!
                                    now I'm thinking about parlaying SDSU with my Marshall bet.
                                    just feels right.
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                                    • Big Bear
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 11-01-11
                                      • 43253

                                      #19
                                      hahaha everyone piling on big bear
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                                      • donkbetter
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 11-03-11
                                        • 314

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                        it works cause teams dont see it and it a pain to prepare for. if it was "unstoppable" more teams besides no talent schools would run it like in the 50s. it actually just the opposite of you say, it more like it is totally useless if the defense is properly coached and plays assignment fb which many times is easier said than done cause it not real glamorous.

                                        have you seen option schools try and pass? they running that crap cause they incapable of passing..
                                        and in the beginning Street, Koy, Wooster and the fastest white man from Wisconsin, Jim Bertleson
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                                        • Snowball
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                                          • 11-15-09
                                          • 30058

                                          #21
                                          pass, don't like the game....
                                          tempted sdsu but can't hit button.
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                                          • 2daBank
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                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                                            hahaha everyone piling on big bear
                                            hell you might be right on the side. i dont mess with these early bowls a ton outside of tailing someone i trust every now and again. they not exactly my strong suite at all. your views on the option just misguided. doesnt mean navy wont run all over them. my concern if i was on navy would be sds running all over navy's swiss cheese defense.. no bet for me so gl..
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                                            • boomer62
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                                              • 09-10-11
                                              • 1500

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                              it works cause teams dont see it and it a pain to prepare for. if it was "unstoppable" more teams besides no talent schools would run it like in the 50s. it actually just the opposite of you say, it more like it is totally useless if the defense is properly coached and plays assignment fb which many times is easier said than done cause it not real glamorous.

                                              have you seen option schools try and pass? they running that crap cause they incapable of passing..
                                              Exactly....Navy,Army, Air Force can't pass down field at all!I don't know anything about SD State at all but their defensive stats look good and seem to have balance on offense. I'm not sure I would bet this game at all. But my question is if Navy falls behind by 2 scores and they can't throw the ball downfield they could be in trouble. But Bear says their offense can't be stopped!! And BROKEDICK LANDERS loves N.Illinois so maybe if one needs to bet for action maybe just fade the 2 brain surgeons......
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                                              • SplitAces
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 09-22-12
                                                • 434

                                                #24
                                                Stats are number.
                                                Look at competition please before I throw up.
                                                Stats look decent because they played sucky teams.
                                                Bet SDS...it may be a winner. Just please do not use stats as a reasoning because they played week schedule.
                                                SDS is an inconsistent team. They could throw for 300+ and run for 150+ and still somehow find a way to lose. Stats don't tell their story.
                                                I'm sure every one on Covers and EOG make a lot of money gambling regularly and have good info.




                                                Originally posted by boomer62
                                                Exactly....Navy,Army, Air Force can't pass down field at all!I don't know anything about SD State at all but their defensive stats look good and seem to have balance on offense. I'm not sure I would bet this game at all. But my question is if Navy falls behind by 2 scores and they can't throw the ball downfield they could be in trouble. But Bear says their offense can't be stopped!! And BROKEDICK LANDERS loves N.Illinois so maybe if one needs to bet for action maybe just fade the 2 brain surgeons......
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                                                • chico2663
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                                                  • 09-02-10
                                                  • 36915

                                                  #25
                                                  i have to agree with bear. Kids don't want to play this offense. Played money line on navy. I consider myself a decent capper.
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                                                  • jjgold
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                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    SD St

                                                    Mismatch
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                                                    • Big Bear
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                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                      • 43253

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      SD St

                                                      Mismatch

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                                                      • pimike
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                                                        • 03-23-08
                                                        • 37140

                                                        #28
                                                        Who is SDS

                                                        South Dakota?

                                                        Lol
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                                                        • I rike 2 bet
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 12-28-11
                                                          • 56

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SplitAces
                                                          Stats are number.
                                                          Look at competition please before I throw up.
                                                          Stats look decent because they played sucky teams.
                                                          Bet SDS...it may be a winner. Just please do not use stats as a reasoning because they played week schedule.
                                                          SDS is an inconsistent team. They could throw for 300+ and run for 150+ and still somehow find a way to lose. Stats don't tell their story.
                                                          I'm sure every one on Covers and EOG make a lot of money gambling regularly and have good info.
                                                          SDSU had the harder schedule compared to Navy. So if they both had a weak schedule...

                                                          SDSU -3 large for more reasons then I care to type.
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                                                          • tony_come
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                                                            • 03-31-10
                                                            • 21695

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pimike
                                                            Who is SDS

                                                            South Dakota?

                                                            Lol
                                                            Yes
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                                                            • Retrospect
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-08-10
                                                              • 602

                                                              #31
                                                              I have a feeling its navy tonight
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                                                              • Retrospect
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-08-10
                                                                • 602

                                                                #32
                                                                Well i just bet navy gl
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                                                                • mp5070
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                                                                  • 09-13-08
                                                                  • 5446

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Navy +3.5

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                                                                  • swag1982
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                                                                    • 01-25-14
                                                                    • 1076

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Navy shouldn't kick to that guy
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                                                                    • Da Manster!
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                                                                      • 07-13-07
                                                                      • 17720

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Aztecs should just give it to Pumphrey every time and let SDST's huge O-line just wear down the smaller mids...
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