If You Have A Record Can You Go To Canada?

**SlickFazzer** · 03-30-09, 04:17 PM

Felony?

**fiveteamer** · 03-30-09, 04:17 PM

nope. you can't.

**pavyracer** · 03-30-09, 04:18 PM

If you have a record in Canada can you come to Jersey?

**topgame85** · 03-30-09, 04:22 PM

Why the hell would you not be allowed into Canada? they steal from their citizens daily with the ridiculous taxes

**jjgold** · 03-30-09, 04:28 PM

So if my buddy has a theft charge he cannot go to Canada?

**themajormt** · 03-30-09, 04:29 PM

Depends on the charge... Theft might be ok, I know DWI's and any drug charges your chances are slim.

**AMBlai01** · 03-30-09, 04:33 PM

Is it a felony charge and how long ago was it on his record?

**raydog** · 03-30-09, 04:34 PM

there is 1 reason and 1 reason only to go to that dump jj. weed

**jjgold** · 03-30-09, 04:35 PM

Minor stole some radios from a supermarket, 5 years ago.

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 04:36 PM

It's the same between both countries, Americans with a criminal record cannot enter Canada and vice versa.

It is illegal to visit Canada if you have a criminal record unless you have acquired special permission from Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC). If you have a Canadian criminal record, it is best to have it pardoned or destroyed before attempting to enter again. If you have a foreign record, you will need to apply for a Minister's Permit or submit an Application for Rehabilitation.

For Canadians entering the USA:

If you must travel to the U.S.A. before your Canadian criminal record is pardoned or destroyed, you will need to apply for a U.S.A. entry waiver to legally enter. Essentially, you will be admitting and giving details about your criminal record to the U.S.A. federal government.
You will be required to submit fingerprints for certification by both the RCMP and the FBI. In addition to the basic application, there are many other supporting documents that could be added to your application. Approval of your application is subjective. This means that the better your application package is, the more likely you will be to have your waiver granted. Supporting documents that should be included and which should definitely be omitted is a judgment call based on experience. Pardons Canada can help you determine what is best in your circumstances, taking into account the date of your offence, the nature of your offence, current U.S.A. sentiment and practices, and your personal situation.

**jjgold** · 03-30-09, 04:51 PM

Thanks BetPlom

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 04:53 PM

JJ, the border has changed drastically since 9/11.

I used to drive across the border between Windsor ON & Detroit MI or Ft. Erie ON & Buffalo NY hundreds of times over the years without any issues, I also used to cross at Blaine Washington when I lived in BC and was required to undergo a "secondary check" and was allowed to enter the USA.

I have a "minor" record in Canada where I served a few 30 day (or less) sentences back in the 1990's (never had any encounters with US law enforcement) and had no problems getting into the USA until 2005 when they stopped me at Buffalo and refused me entry, they were aware of my old convictions and said I'd need a "waiver" to be allowed in, the process takes almost a year and requires getting court transcripts etc, a real pain in the ass. The US immigration guys were cool with me and were very professional.

Since all of my family members that used to live in the US are now all in Canada I have no real reason to go to the US, other than day trips to shop in NY state I don't really miss going to America.

There are so many other better travel destinations than the US and I also hold an Italian passport which allows me unrestricted travel to Europe.

**Brock Landers** · 03-30-09, 04:53 PM

If its not a felony, its not a problem.

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by brock landers

if its not a felony, its not a problem.

wrong!

Anyone with a criminal record (including misdemeanors or Driving While Impaired (DWI) charges may be barred from entering Canada and must obtain a special waiver well in advance of any planned travel. To determine whether you may be inadmissible and how to overcome this finding , refer to the Canadian citizenship and immigration web site.

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http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1082.html

Criminal inadmissibility

If you have committed or been convicted of a criminal offence, you may not be allowed to enter Canada.
Criminal offences include both minor and serious offences, such as theft, assault, manslaughter, dangerous driving and driving while under the influence of drugs or alcohol. For a complete list of criminal offences in Canada, consult the Canadian Criminal Code.
If you were convicted of a crime when you were under the age of 18, you can probably still enter Canada. See the Related Links at the bottom of this page for more information about admissibility.

Eligibility to apply for a visitor visa - Canada.ca

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/apply-who.asp

Find out if you're eligible to visit Canada. Learn about visitor visa requirements, travel documents, and application steps for your visit.

**topgame85** · 03-30-09, 04:58 PM

This is the stupidest shit ever If i cant get into canada next time i try I'm gonna flip my shit

**unde0087** · 03-30-09, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Anyone know

I live 20 miles from the border, if you have a felony on your record you will be denied access into Canada. I went with some friends and we had to turn around because one of the guys in the car had a recent DUI and they won't let him in the country. Sorry pal

**topgame85** · 03-30-09, 05:02 PM

Your ****ing kidding right? A DUI will deny you access to Canada?! Well **** you too canuckistan

**BatemanPatrickl** · 03-30-09, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

I live 20 miles from the border, if you have a felony on your record you will be denied access into Canada. I went with some friends and we had to turn around because one of the guys in the car had a recent DUI and they won't let him in the country. Sorry pal

Super Troopers?

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

I live 20 miles from the border, if you have a felony on your record you will be denied access into Canada. I went with some friends and we had to turn around because one of the guys in the car had a recent DUI and they won't let him in the country. Sorry pal

Doesn't have to be a felony.

The American border guys don't ask us Canadians about convictions they ask if you've ever been "ARRESTED" and will refuse entry even if not convicted.

Originally posted by topgame85

This is the stupidest shit ever If i cant get into canada next time i try I'm gonna flip my shit

Topper, I'm in the same boat as you, but entering another country as a foreigner is a privilege not a right, every country has the right to decide who they allow in.

Personally I believe if you've done your time and aren't a dangerous person you should be allowed to enter, what does something that happened years ago have to do with admissability?

**topgame85** · 03-30-09, 05:07 PM

This is extremely angering to me plommer, I guess your right about it being a priviledge but I would of tried to get off a lot harder had I known this. the fact that anything short of killing someone can deny you access is insanity IMO.

**unde0087** · 03-30-09, 05:08 PM

One of my friends has been arrested numerous times over the years for DUI and MIP, most didn't stick and he has never been detained

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

One of my friends has been arrested numerous times over the years for DUI and MIP, most didn't stick and he has never been detained

He has been lucky, as I was for years.

Nowadays Canada and the USA share police records with each other via computer, when I presented my passport to the US Immigration officer at Buffalo in 2005 he scanned it into the computer, looked at me and asked why I was fingerprinted in 1992.

Don't kid yourself, it's likely the Immigration guy knows everything before you proceded to the booth at the border from scanning your license plates, if the car isn't yours you may get lucky, but eventually you WILL be caught and denied entry, the computer systems are sophisticated and data shared between the two countries.

**topgame85** · 03-30-09, 05:15 PM

This is really ridiculous to me, unreal if you do jail time pay thousands in fines do alcohol education and probation in the US to be denied entrance to canada seems ridiculous

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by topgame85

This is extremely angering to me plommer, I guess your right about it being a priviledge but I would of tried to get off a lot harder had I known this. the fact that anything short of killing someone can deny you access is insanity IMO.

I know how you feel, when I was denied entry back in 2005 I was on my way to the Buffalo airport to fly to Sarasota for a family Christmas get together, well, I never made it and people in Florida were upset at my absence and because I spent Christmas alone.

**robzilla** · 03-30-09, 05:19 PM

We wouldnt let Snoop Dogg in. I used to work at CCRA. They are pretty good at refusing americans with records.
I am always getting stopped when i go to the states. I thought the Obama admin would be easier on us "good" canadians.

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 05:19 PM

It is illegal to attempt to enter the U.S.A. with a criminal record, unless you have appropriate immigration status or you have a U.S.A. Entry Waiver.

US Entry Waiver Information | Pardons Canada

http://www.pardons.org/content.phtml?page=08

Get all the information you need about US entry waivers. Find out how to apply, requirements, and more. Ensure a smooth entry into the United States.

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 05:20 PM

Canadian Mom Searching for Missing Daughter Denied Entry to US Over 21-Year-Old Drug Conviction

Feature: Canadian Mom Searching for Missing Daughter Denied Entry to US Over 21-Year-Old Drug Conviction | StoptheDrugWar.org

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/489/canadian_mom_with_missing_daughter_barred_from_US_by_drug_conviction

Canadian Glendene Grant's daughter went missing in Las Vegas last year. Now, US officials won't let her entry the country to look for her because she has a two-decades old drug conviction.

**sickler** · 03-30-09, 05:23 PM

US border agents are pricks. While crossing the Prescott-Ogdensburg bridge, they searched my car for an hour, found nothing and turned me back. This was before 9/11

**unde0087** · 03-30-09, 05:23 PM

Well whatever, I don't really give a shit, I have never been convicted of anything. So they don't have shit on me. No driving tickets, no arrests, no nothing. I am a free man so **** em

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by sickler

US border agents are pricks. While crossing the Prescott-Ogdensburg bridge, they searched my car for an hour, found nothing and turned me back. This was before 9/11

I've met many asshole US Border guards, seem like part of the job description is to be an asshole, I'm sure there are as many asshole Canadian border guards as well.

I do know that its ALWAYS the USA that initiates these rules or policies and Canada can only retaliate by imposing the same restrictions on the Americans.

Did you know America fingerprints everyone from South American countries? When Brazil announced (as retaliation) it would be fingerprinting Americans visiting Brazil the Yanks weren't very happy about it. America likes to dish it out but hates receiving.

In Europe moving freely about is so much simpler, record? no problem, your EU passport gives you the right to travel.

What is amazing is that Canada and the USA are considered friends and allies, you see what the Americans do to countries they don't like?

**Nicky Santoro** · 03-30-09, 05:36 PM

plommer, i am happy you know your stuff here.. can i ask you a question?

i have been denied entry to us like 3 times.. but some times i make it.. like 1 in 5.. havent tried in 4 yrs.. they told me not to try again cause name is on computer now..

plommer, if i try again, any chance i can make it through.. and if they find out, what happens.. do they just tell me to go back, or can they arrest me? or make my life difficult.

i was charged with bookmaking in 95 only.. that's it.. i have stayed out of trouble since.. where do i stand plommer. can i try to make it through, or is it risky. .thanks..

**tullamore** · 03-30-09, 05:37 PM

My friend got turned away for a oui on trip to Canada a few years back.

**betplom** · 03-30-09, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

plommer, i am happy you know your stuff here.. can i ask you a question?

i have been denied entry to us like 3 times.. but some times i make it.. like 1 in 5.. havent tried in 4 yrs.. they told me not to try again cause name is on computer now..

plommer, if i try again, any chance i can make it through.. and if they find out, what happens.. do they just tell me to go back, or can they arrest me? or make my life difficult.

i was charged with bookmaking in 95 only.. that's it.. i have stayed out of trouble since.. where do i stand plommer. can i try to make it through, or is it risky. .thanks..

Nicky, if you've been denied once you risk alot by trying to enter without a waiver. They will likely arrest and detain you and seize any assets you have (car cash etc)

I'd recommend applying for the waiver, I believe it costs approx $285 USD and makes you "legal" to try to enter the USA.

Check out this link for complete info.

US Entry Waiver Information | Pardons Canada

http://www.pardons.org/content.phtml?page=08

Get all the information you need about US entry waivers. Find out how to apply, requirements, and more. Ensure a smooth entry into the United States.

Nicky, my parents are naturalized US citizens, I have cousins married to Americans in Windsor, my brother is married to an American with American born children (with automatic Canadian citizenship because he is Canadian) but they now live in Ottawa, I got no breaks from US Immigration with family members being citizens of the US, funny thing is I can apply for a green card because of my parents citizenship but I cannot visit until I complete the waiver process.

**flyingillini** · 03-30-09, 05:41 PM

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