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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    EP36's Spitballin' NCAAB/NBA 2nd Halves
    Baller Alert with a thread to document the carnage.


    So I have been practicing this a bit the last week or so in the NBA, but will probably apply it more to NCAAB as I tend to follow it more than the pros.

    The basic premise is that at half-time, I count up the number of possessions using the formula FGAs + O.Rebs - Turnovers + .436 * FTAs for the NBA and .475 * FTAs for NCAAB.

    NCAAB you also add five to that final number to estimate possessions for the 2nd half due to excessive fouling as college hoops.

    These are not formulas of my own, but some I have seen shared around the Internet over the years.

    From there, I look at the # of points scored in the first half, tempo, FG%, fouling, etc. and match it against the # of possessions. Then, I look at the 2nd half total and look for the best edges. That usually means looking for games where the 2nd half total is set off by quite a bit from what the # of possessions and flow of the 1st half shows.

    End of the day, it is still a choice on which games to try and which games to skip. There is no magic number that says YES play this game. So I'm just spitballin' these as I go, no promises of failure or riches. Maybe it'll help along the way again this season for either fading or following purposes. Enjoy the show. These will be on Twitter also for ease of timeliness if you so care to follow as there is no telling which games my be picks on any given day. Same as my SBR handle.

    Be the Squirrel trying to get that Nut






  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #2
    11.25.14
    NBA: Timberwolves-Nets Under 104.5 @ -110
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    • Ra77er
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-20-11
      • 10969

      #3
      Eagles I know we will never share a drink together....being a Braves fan along with the media making me dislike philly fans but I do like your style (prop betting, lowen etc), and I was tempted to roast you a little but I couldn't bring myself to do it. Welcome to the married life and good luck with these 2nd half wagers. I like the premise/formula/recipe behind it and will be highly interested to see how it turns out in cbb.
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      • EaglesPhan36
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 71662

        #4
        Thanks man

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        • EaglesPhan36
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-06-06
          • 71662

          #5
          Mmmm not looking good so far on this one. Since this is still a training ground for me on this early in the season, keep that in mind. Gonna be some that are way off as hopefully I can fine tune this more and more. Was tough for me here. Looked at this Under and Celts-Raps Over, but part of the guesswork comes into guessing on shooting improvement or shooting dropoff.
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          • EaglesPhan36
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 71662

            #6
            NBA: Bulls-Bucks Over 95 @ -110
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              i want to wish you good luck. congrats on the marriage. said shit in the past but i just want peace nowadays. good luck man
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              • EaglesPhan36
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 71662

                #8
                Thank you sir. Appears this first one, the worm has turned in our favor.
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                • EaglesPhan36
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 71662

                  #9
                  NBA: Hawks-Spurs Under 101.5 @ -115
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                  • EaglesPhan36
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 71662

                    #10
                    NBA: Grizzlies-Suns Under 97 @ -105
                    This will be a good test.
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                    • EaglesPhan36
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-06-06
                      • 71662

                      #11
                      Yikes on this Spurs 4th quarter.
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                      • EaglesPhan36
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-06-06
                        • 71662

                        #12
                        Wow magically stays under
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                        • EaglesPhan36
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-06-06
                          • 71662

                          #13
                          NBA: Nuggets-Kings Over 103 @ -115
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                          • EaglesPhan36
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-06-06
                            • 71662

                            #14
                            Heh. Don't remember the last two a couple of unders went my way in the last minute on the same day. Good Karma.
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                            • EaglesPhan36
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 71662

                              #15
                              nba: 4-1 [+2.90]
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                              • kidcudi92
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-14-11
                                • 15434

                                #16
                                Cashed with you on SAC/DEN, good call
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                                • EaglesPhan36
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 71662

                                  #17
                                  11.6.14
                                  NBA: Spurs-Rockets Under 99.5 @ -110
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                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 71662

                                    #18
                                    Egads this quarter.
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                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-06-06
                                      • 71662

                                      #19
                                      NBA: Mavericks-Blazers Under 104.5 @ -110
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                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-06-06
                                        • 71662

                                        #20
                                        NBA: 5-2 [+2.80]
                                        Split last night. One quarter killed that Spurs-Rockets play & it was still pretty close at the end.
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                                        • Booya711
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-20-11
                                          • 27329

                                          #21
                                          5-2 still a nice start EP...looking forward to see how this turns out...GL!
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                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-06-06
                                            • 71662

                                            #22
                                            Thanks! Once NCAAB gets in flow, Fridays & Sundays will probably be my NBA days as NCAAB takes up about every other day of the week. At least that is my plan right now. Next Friday, I'm gonna try to tweak the college methodology by focusing on it during the marathon start to try & get an idea of how far off my method is or hopefully how close it is to working decently.

                                            It'll be interesting to try & balance both.
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                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-06-06
                                              • 71662

                                              #23
                                              11.7.14
                                              NBA: Bulls-76ers Over 94 @ -110
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                                              • Ra77er
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-20-11
                                                • 10969

                                                #24
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                                                • EaglesPhan36
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-06-06
                                                  • 71662

                                                  #25
                                                  NBA: Wizards-Raptors Over 95 @ -110
                                                  Very interested to see this one play out. Have not applied this to blowouts much if any, so this is sort of a live beta test.
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                                                  • The_Kid
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                    • 5049

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                    NBA: Wizards-Raptors Over 95 @ -110
                                                    Very interested to see this one play out. Have not applied this to blowouts much if any, so this is sort of a live beta test.
                                                    Wizards shooting 12/43, so you figure that number goes up. Good luck, EP.
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                                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                      • 71662

                                                      #27
                                                      I think that is the problem in blowouts is that you can't expect anything to change specifically. My 1st thoughts are to stay away from blowouts, but I wanted to try a couple to see if this could apply or not. So far this one looks like not.

                                                      Bulls-Sixers looking good though.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        Toronto tough at home
                                                        Wash needs Beal back

                                                        Knicks whore shit as are Bucks and 76ers

                                                        best of luck
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                                                        • EaglesPhan36
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-06-06
                                                          • 71662

                                                          #29
                                                          Well damn that was close. Missed it by a couple points.
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                                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 71662

                                                            #30
                                                            NBA: Mavericks-Jazz Under 101.5 @ -110
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                                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-06-06
                                                              • 71662

                                                              #31
                                                              NBA: Cavs-Nuggets Over 105.5 @ -115
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                                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-06-06
                                                                • 71662

                                                                #32
                                                                Productive night, 3-1.
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                                                                • EaglesPhan36
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-06-06
                                                                  • 71662

                                                                  #33
                                                                  nba: 8-3 [+5.70]
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                                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                                    • 71662

                                                                    #34
                                                                    11.8.14
                                                                    NBA: Pelicans-Spurs Under 101 @ -110
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Eagles style

                                                                      Gambling 1st and wife second
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