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  • crustyme
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-29-10
    • 16896

    #141
    Originally posted by brooks85
    lol, that is a whole other joke, anyways..

    What do they think about the fact California ranks in the bottom 10 for most business climate indexes?

    so we should just believe some random anonymous douche on the internet over an award winning economist who says otherwise?

    lolol
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    • brooks85
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-05-09
      • 44644

      #142
      Originally posted by chico2663
      why did bush brag about more people owning homes than anytime in u.s. history. Because he had nothing to stand on. To show you how foolish america is this law was passed under carter. reagan bush clinton and bush jr could of changed it but didn't.Ron reagan and steve ragan got rid of the people who watched this and allowed monopolies. Than because clinton was getting a bj the grahm-biley-leach law came into effect which allowed banks to buy insurance companies and investment brokerages. Wall street made these loans as an investment vestibule and sold them in packages. they than guaranteed them but didn't want to say the word insurance because insurance is run by the states. The people started foreclosing on these loans. gw went to congress and asked to have these loans go from 90 day delinquency to a yr so that they could try to straighten in out. These investors , many from china threatened to take their money out of the us if these loans weren't made good. The rest is history but little known fact was that bush was trying to give these corps. interest free loans but obummmmmer said hold on and charged companies 16 % Another little known fact this happened over in scandinavia or norway. The president of the country threw 2 bankers in jail. The country bought the under water loan amt. and the country turned around in less than 3 years.

      here is a better question you should ask since you are clearly misguided.

      Who was responsible for all those people having homes they couldn't afford, provided by banks forced to lend to them because it was the American Dream?

      Here is a hint, Bush jr tried to stop deregulation.
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      • crustyme
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-29-10
        • 16896

        #143
        Originally posted by brooks85
        here is a better question you should ask since you are clearly misguided.

        Who was responsible for all those people having homes they couldn't afford, provided by banks forced to lend to them because it was the American Dream?

        Here is a hint, Bush jr tried to stop deregulation.
        WASHINGTON - There is a reason why many American families can't buy their first home - they can't afford the downpayment and other upfront closing costs required to qualify for a mortgage. For as many as 40,000 low-income families, that will change as President Bush today signed The American Dream Downpayment Act into law.


        Applauding Congress for authorizing the annual $200 million downpayment assistance program, Bush and Housing and Urban Development Acting Secretary Alphonso Jackson said the initiative will also help meet the Administration's "Homeownership Challenge" to increase minority homeownership by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade.



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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388208

          #144
          The goal is to have 80 Reps in all offices in 8 years or so

          We need businessmen running Country not guys coming from hoods and from gov't jobs
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          • brooks85
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-05-09
            • 44644

            #145
            Originally posted by crustyme
            WASHINGTON - There is a reason why many American families can't buy their first home - they can't afford the downpayment and other upfront closing costs required to qualify for a mortgage. For as many as 40,000 low-income families, that will change as President Bush today signed The American Dream Downpayment Act into law.


            Applauding Congress for authorizing the annual $200 million downpayment assistance program, Bush and Housing and Urban Development Acting Secretary Alphonso Jackson said the initiative will also help meet the Administration's "Homeownership Challenge" to increase minority homeownership by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade.





            You'll never win against me Crusty, we both know I'm smarter than you. Not saying much but there ya have it.


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            • crustyme
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-29-10
              • 16896

              #146
              Originally posted by brooks85
              You'll never win against me Crusty, we both know I'm smarter than you.


              http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...nd-freddie-mac
              uh, apparently ur not.

              u claim bush was trying to stop the housing bubble from bursting, yet as u can clearly see from the hud news release i posted proves otherwise. in fact, he was at the forefront of bursting it. by signing the 'american dream downpayment act' (a republicon bill), he removed the only barrier for poor minorities with awful credit from owning homes they couldnt afford.

              now why would a conservative like bush give free handouts like this? per usual, he wanted to appease his largest political donor named roland arnall, who just happened to own the largest sub-prime bank in the us, ameriquest. and where do the poor with awful credit go for home loans? to predators like roland. he made a killing off them thanks to his pal bush.

              plus fannie mae & freddie mac had nothing to do with it:

              Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with the explosion of high-risk lending a few years ago, an explosion that dwarfed the S.& L. fiasco. In fact, Fannie and Freddie, after growing rapidly in the 1990s, largely faded from the scene during the height of the housing bubble.


              Partly that’s because regulators, responding to accounting scandals at the companies, placed temporary restraints on both Fannie and Freddie that curtailed their lending just as housing prices were really taking off. Also, they didn’t do any subprime lending, because they can’t: the definition of a subprime loan is precisely a loan that doesn’t meet the requirement, imposed by law, that Fannie and Freddie buy only mortgages issued to borrowers who made substantial down payments and carefully documented their income.

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              • rkelly110
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 10-05-09
                • 39410

                #147
                Hey Corbin, shine my helmet!
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                • brooks85
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44644

                  #148
                  Originally posted by crustyme
                  uh, apparently ur not.

                  u claim bush was trying to stop the housing bubble from bursting, yet as u can clearly see from the hud news release i posted proves otherwise. in fact, he was at the forefront of bursting it. by signing the 'american dream downpayment act' (a republicon bill), he removed the only barrier for poor minorities with awful credit from owning homes they couldnt afford.

                  now why would a conservative like bush give free handouts like this? per usual, he wanted to appease his largest political donor named roland arnall, who just happened to own the largest sub-prime bank in the us, ameriquest. and where do the poor with awful credit go for home loans? to predators like roland. he made a killing off them thanks to his pal bush.

                  plus fannie mae & freddie mac had nothing to do with it:

                  Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with the explosion of high-risk lending a few years ago, an explosion that dwarfed the S.& L. fiasco. In fact, Fannie and Freddie, after growing rapidly in the 1990s, largely faded from the scene during the height of the housing bubble.


                  Partly that’s because regulators, responding to accounting scandals at the companies, placed temporary restraints on both Fannie and Freddie that curtailed their lending just as housing prices were really taking off. Also, they didn’t do any subprime lending, because they can’t: the definition of a subprime loan is precisely a loan that doesn’t meet the requirement, imposed by law, that Fannie and Freddie buy only mortgages issued to borrowers who made substantial down payments and carefully documented their income.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/op...gman.html?_r=0
                  No, actually I didn't. You're just not very smart so you do what typical libtards do and make up things in your head. If you want to blame the "straw that broke the camel's back" then go right ahead. I'd rather blame the guys who put the bales on in the first place especially since bush jr told congress not to.


                  Just as you said yourself, bush removed the last barrier but who removed the majority previously and altered laws already on the books, against Bush jrs input to congress, which started the problem?

                  Here is my only hint for you, 1999 is before 2002. That should get you on the right track if you have enough brain cells.
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                  • boomer62
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-10-11
                    • 1500

                    #149
                    Saw some of OBAMA's press conference and again passes the buck with no solutions and the same old rhetoric!!! Such a politician and in over his head... Only concerned about his legacy and his world views are right
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                    • geebert74
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-03-09
                      • 2445

                      #150
                      GOP all day baby
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                      • crustyme
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-29-10
                        • 16896

                        #151
                        Originally posted by brooks85
                        No, actually I didn't. You're just not very smart so you do what typical libtards do and make up things in your head. If you want to blame the "straw that broke the camel's back" then go right ahead. I'd rather blame the guys who put the bales on in the first place especially since bush jr told congress not to.


                        Just as you said yourself, bush removed the last barrier but who removed the majority previously and altered laws already on the books against Bush jrs input to congress which started the problem?

                        Here is my only hint for you, 1999 is before 2002. That should get you on the right track if you have enough brain cells.
                        uh, all the banking deregulations were spearheaded by republicons.

                        gramm-leach-bliley act (1999) - named after phil gramm, jim leach thomas j bliley, all republicons, repealed the glass-steagall act of 1933

                        commodity futures modernization act (2000) - passed thanks to phil gramm, who was chair of the senate banking committee

                        american dream downpayment act (2003) - republicon bill passed by bush

                        deregulation of net capital rule (2004) - which republicons pushed for and which many commentators blame for causing the crisis

                        need any more lessons?
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44644

                          #152
                          Originally posted by crustyme
                          uh, all the banking deregulations were spearheaded by republicons.

                          gramm-leach-bliley act (1999) - named after phil gramm, jim leach thomas j bliley, all republicons, repealed the glass-steagall act of 1933

                          commodity futures modernization act (2000) - passed thanks to phil gramm, who was chair of the senate banking committee

                          american dream downpayment act (2003) - republicon bill passed by bush

                          deregulation of net capital rule (2004) - which republicons pushed for and which many commentators blame for causing the crisis

                          need any more lessons?

                          Well, first to give a lesson you would have to have all the facts which you clearly do not. You're missing the key figure who signed the act I asked you for(should be an easy one) and most importantly the act that was altered. I'll give ya credit tho, you're doing better than I thought you would.

                          However, I have a funnier question to ask you. So, you clearly blame the republicans solely for GFC?
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                          • thetrinity
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-25-11
                            • 22444

                            #153
                            Originally posted by boomer62
                            Saw some of OBAMA's press conference and again passes the buck with no solutions and the same old rhetoric!!! Such a politician and in over his head... Only concerned about his legacy and his world views are right
                            i did see it, he acted like nothing happened, they showed a clip of when bill clinton lost both houses and he was the complete opposite, the next 2 years will be interesting
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                            • KiDBaZkiT
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-20-09
                              • 14965

                              #154
                              If your still wearing rugs and sniffing coke your stuck in the 80's jerkoff!!
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                              • crustyme
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-29-10
                                • 16896

                                #155
                                Originally posted by brooks85
                                Well, first to give a lesson you would have to have all the facts which you clearly do not. You're missing the key figure who signed the act I asked you for(should be an easy one) and most importantly the act that was altered. I'll give ya credit tho, you're doing better than I thought you would.

                                However, I have a funnier question to ask you. So, you clearly blame the republicans solely for GFC?

                                republicons controlled both the senate and house of rep and overwhelmingly passed the gramm-leachy-bliley act. it was "veto proof" meaning even had clinton vetoed it, it would still have passed. but i guess in ur delusional mind, it was all clinton's fault.




                                no, i dont blame the republicons entirely, as the democrats did nothing to stop them. but that doesnt change the fact the deregulating was spearheaded by republicons to appease their donors from the banking industry, who had fought government regulations for decades.

                                thanks for the compliment, too bad i cant say the same for u.

                                lol
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                                • ByeShea
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-30-08
                                  • 7917

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by crustyme
                                  need any more lessons?
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                                  • Chili_Powder
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-22-11
                                    • 824

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by King Mayan
                                    All the inbred hillbillies showed up to vote last night..

                                    Good for them... More welfare red states to come...
                                    Sore loser
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                                    • The Kraken
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-25-11
                                      • 29085

                                      #158
                                      Oh the fukking irony


                                      These are America’s best and worst educated states.
                                      America’s Best-Educated States
                                      10. Minnesota
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 32.4%
                                      > Median household income: $56,954 (11th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 11.9% (11th lowest)

                                      Nearly one in three Minnesota adults aged 25 or older has a bachelor’s degree or higher, the 10th-highest percentage in the country. Minnesota’s educational attainment at the earliest levels is even higher than it is at the college level. Just 4.7% of adults had started — but not completed — high school, compared to the 8.1% of adults who fell into that category nationally. Just 8% of Minnesotans 25 or older do not have a high school diploma, compared to the 14.1% nationwide. However, among states with the most college graduates, Minnesota has fewer adults who go on to the next level of education. Only 10.5% of adults have graduate or professional degrees, the 17th highest nationwide.
                                      9. New York
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 32.9%
                                      > Median household income: $55,246 (16th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 16.0% (21st highest)

                                      More than 14% of New Yorkers have an advanced degree, one of the highest percentages in the U.S. However, while many New Yorkers are highly educated, another large group lacks basic education. Just 85% of New Yorkers have at least a high school diploma, close to 1 percentage point below the national rate. Educational attainment dramatically affects New York residents’ ability to earn a living, where the median annual earnings for someone with only a high school diploma is $28,405, less than half the median earnings of $68,079 for someone with a graduate or professional degree.
                                      8. New Hampshire
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 33.4%
                                      > Median household income: $62,647 (6th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 8.8% (the least)

                                      More New Hampshire adults have at least completed high school than all but five states — 91.4%, compared to the national rate of 85.9%. The benefits for those 33.4% who have at least a bachelor’s degree are quite high. The state poverty rate is 8.8%, which is already the lowest in the country. Meanwhile, just 2.2% of those with at least a bachelor’s degree live below the poverty line, also the lowest rate in the country.
                                      7. Virginia
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 35.1%
                                      > Median household income: $61,882 (7th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 11.5% (tied-8th lowest)

                                      Although Virginia is one of the nation’s most-educated states, with 20.5% of adults with just bachelor’s degrees and another 14.6% with advanced degrees, the state still struggles to graduate many students from high school. According to the Census Bureau, only 87.8% of adult Virginians have high school diplomas — worse than any of the most-educated states, except New York. The median earnings for adults without high school diplomas is just $19,892 a year, compared to the median of $78,532 for residents with advanced degrees.
                                      6. New Jersey
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 35.3%
                                      > Median household income: $67,458 (3rd highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 10.4% (3rd lowest)

                                      New Jersey is one of the most well-to-do states in the country, with just 10.4% of residents living below the poverty level, compared to a national rate of 15.9%. It also has the third-highest median household income in the country, at $67,458. Residents with bachelor’s degree also earn more than college graduates of any other state, at $60,107. The national median earnings for bachelor’s degree recipients is $48,309. More than 21% of New Jersey adults without a high school degree were living below the poverty line, compared to the just 3.1% of those with a bachelor’s degree or higher.
                                      5. Vermont
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 35.4%
                                      > Median household income: $52,776 (19th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 11.5% (tied-8th lowest)

                                      In Vermont, 35.4% of adult residents have at least a college degree, with 21.4% of the population holding a bachelor’s and another 14% holding a master’s, doctorate, or professional degree. Median earnings for adults with advanced degrees in Vermont is $50,593 a year — over $13,000 less than the national median. Only 2.8% of residents have less than a ninth grade education, less than half of the 6% nationwide, and another 5.5% finished ninth grade but dropped out of high school, one of the lowest rates in the nation. Among those aged 16 to 19, 97.2% were either in school or had graduated — the third-highest rate in the nation.
                                      4. Connecticut
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 36.2%
                                      > Median household income: $65,753 (4th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 10.9% (5th lowest)

                                      In Connecticut, an estimated 15.7% of the adult population has either a graduate or professional degree, one of the highest percentages in the U.S., behind only Massachusetts and Maryland. The median annual earnings for this group is $75,875, higher than all but a handful of states — twice the median earnings for an adult with only a high school diploma. Residents who don’t earn college also do well; median earnings for the group was $32,869, higher than in any other state.
                                      3. Colorado
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 36.7%
                                      > Median household income: $55,387 (15th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 13.5% (18th lowest)

                                      Colorado residents are among the most-educated people in the country — 23.3% of the adults have completed up to a bachelor’s degrees and another 13.4% have also completed advanced degrees. Colorado’s high school participation and graduation rates below the national average. Only 94.1% of residents aged 16 to 19 are either in high school or have graduated.
                                      2. Maryland
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 36.9%
                                      > Median household income: $70,004 (the highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 10.1% (2nd lowest)

                                      In Maryland, 16.5% of the population holds a graduate or professional degree of some kind, behind only Massachusetts. Residents with these degrees are among the highest paid in the country, with median annual earnings of $77,166, behind only New Jersey and Virginia. Only one state — New Hampshire — has a lower poverty rate than Maryland’s 10.1%. This rate is likely driven downwards by the 36.9% of adults who have college degrees, among whom the poverty rate is just 3.2%.
                                      1. Massachusetts
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 39.1%
                                      > Median household income: $62,859 (5th highest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 11.6% (9th lowest)

                                      In Massachusetts, 39.1% of adults have at least a bachelor’s degree, more than 10 percentage points above the national rate of 28.5%. Additionally, 16.8% of adults have a graduate or professional degree, again the highest percentage in the nation. Although the median annual earnings of $53,765 for those with a bachelor’s degree is very high, adults with either a graduate or a professional degree earn far more. Their median earnings exceed $70,000. Academic success is not limited to adults, as nearly 97% of individuals between the ages of 16 and 19 are either enrolled in high school or have graduated — one of the country’s highest rates.
                                      America’s Worst-Educated States
                                      10. Oklahoma
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 23.8%
                                      > Median household income: $43,225 (10th lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 17.2% (16th highest)

                                      Oklahoma is just one of 15 states in which less than a third of all adults have an associate’s degree or higher. Residents with graduate or professional degrees are also scarce in Oklahoma. Residents who do have an advanced degree in Oklahoma do not earn much — the median earnings for adults with graduate or professional degrees is just $51,631, the fifth-lowest in the nation. Of Oklahoma’s adults with less than a high school degree, 28.5% live below the poverty line, compared to the 4.3% with a bachelor’s degree or higher.
                                      9. Tennessee
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 23.6%
                                      > Median household income: $41,693 (6th lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 18.3% (12th highest)

                                      In Tennessee, the median earnings for an adult with an advanced degree is more than three times higher than that for a high school dropout. Despite the opportunity, just 8.3% of adults have graduate degrees, far below the national rate of 10.6%. Meanwhile 15.8% of adults lack even high school diplomas, well above the 14.1% for the U.S. overall. Residents with only a high school education are far more likely to live in poverty. Of residents with a high school education, 30.6% live in poverty, whereas only 3.8 of those who have at least bachelor’s degree live in poverty. One area in which Tennessee is especially strong: 96.4% of people aged 16 to 19 are either in high school or have their diploma, one of the higher rates in the U.S.
                                      8. Indiana
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 23.0%
                                      > Median household income: $46,438 (20th lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 16.0% (21st highest)

                                      By one measure, Indiana does well providing its residents with an education — the percentage of adults who graduated high school, at 87.3%, exceeds the national rate of 85.9%. For many, however, education ends after high school. Only 30.9% of adults have at least an associate’s degree, while only 23% have at least a bachelor’s degree, both among the lowest rates in the U.S. Additionally, just 94% of current residents between 16 and 19 are either in high school or have graduated, a low compared to the national rate of 95.1%.
                                      7. Nevada
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 22.5%
                                      > Median household income: $48,927 (24th lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 15.9% (23rd highest)

                                      In Nevada, only 29.7% of adults have at least an associate’s degree, while the percentage of adults with a bachelor’s degree is just 22.5%. Both of these figures are among the nation’s worst. Within the state, 6% of adults with bachelor’s degrees still live below the poverty line, one of the worst rates in the country. Having a bachelor’s degree is not as much of an advantage in Nevada as it is in other parts of the country. Median earning for adults with less than a high school degree is well more than the national median. At the same time, those with at least a bachelor’s degree earn less than the median college graduate nationwide.
                                      6. Alabama
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 22.3%
                                      > Median household income: $41,415 (5th lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 19.0% (7th highest)

                                      Alabama has one of the nation’s worst high school attainment rates. Among adults 25 and older, 17.3% do not have high school diploma, the fifth-worst percentage in the U.S. For those aged 16 to 19, just 93.7% were either still in high school or had graduated, among the lowest rates in the nation. Only 22.3% of adults have at least a bachelor’s degree in Alabama. More than one in four Nevada adults have some college education, but have not completed a degree, compared to the 21.2% nationwide.
                                      5. Louisiana
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 21.1%
                                      > Median household income: $41,734 (7th lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 20.4% (3rd highest)

                                      Only 82.5% of adults in Louisiana have high school diplomas, one of the lowest percentages in the country. College education in the state is also low. Just 26.3% of adults have associate degrees or higher and only 21.1% have bachelor’s degrees or higher. Both these rates are well below national averages. Graduate and professional degrees are also low. Only 7.1% of adults have a graduate or professional degree, one of the lowest numbers in the country.
                                      4. Kentucky
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 21.1%
                                      > Median household income: $41,141 (4th lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 19.1% (5th highest)

                                      Kentucky residents are among the least likely to have a bachelor’s degree or high school diploma. Only 83.1% of adults have a high school education, and 7% of adults have not completed the ninth grade — both among the worst rates in the U.S. Residents without a high school education often struggle to earn a living — 32.1% live in poverty — more than twice the 15.5% poverty rate for adults who have finished high school. Despite the state’s many problems, Kentucky residents aged 16 to 19 are more likely to be either in school or to have graduated high school than their peers nationwide, at 95.7% versus 95.1% across the U.S.
                                      3. Arkansas
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 20.3%
                                      > Median household income: $38,758 (3rd lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 19.5% (4th highest)

                                      Not only is Arkansas among the 10 worst states in the nation for high school graduation rates, at 83.8%, but it also has the second-smallest proportion of adults with at least an associate’s degree, at just 26.1%. The poverty rate for adults with less than a high school education is seven times higher than for those with a bachelor’s degree or more.
                                      2. Mississippi
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 19.8%
                                      > Median household income: $36,919 (the lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 22.6% (the highest)

                                      Just 81.1% of adults in Mississippi are high school graduates, tied with Texas and California for the lowest percentage in the nation. Additionally, 6.6% of adults have not completed the ninth grade — especially troubling in a state with a poverty rate of 32.5% for those without a high school diploma. Although the median earnings for an adult with no education past high school is just $24,060 — one of the lowest figures in the nation — more than 80% of adults do not have a bachelor’s degree, while more than 70% have not completed an associate’s degree.
                                      1. West Virginia
                                      > Bachelor’s degree or higher: 18.5%
                                      > Median household income: $38,482 (2nd lowest)
                                      > Pct. below poverty level: 18.6% (10th highest)

                                      Just 18.5% of West Virginians have at least a bachelor’s degree — 10 percentage points lower than the national rate of 28.5% and considerably lower than the next-lowest state, Mississippi. West Virginia is also the only state in the nation where less than 7% of adults have a graduate or professional degree. West Virginia adults are the least likely in the nation to have at least an associate’s degree, at 24.9%, compared to 36.3% nationwide. Median earnings for adults with an advanced degree in West Virginia is $52,308 — more than $12,000 below the national median.



                                      All the dumbest states are republican controlled. All the best educated states are democratic, with the exception of Colorado. Denver is the only reason that state has an IQ in double digits and Denver voted heavily democratic.

                                      JJ, use your head for something other than pleasuring SlimShady.
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                                      • jarvol
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-13-10
                                        • 6074

                                        #159
                                        Don't blame me. Voted Libertarian.
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                                        • King Mayan
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-22-10
                                          • 21330

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by thetrinity
                                          i did see it, he acted like nothing happened, they showed a clip of when bill clinton lost both houses and he was the complete opposite, the next 2 years will be interesting
                                          Obama ain't no bitch. He told the cons to Fukk off today.. Good for him..
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                                          • manny24
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-22-07
                                            • 20174

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by King Mayan
                                            Obama ain't no bitch. He told the cons to Fukk off today.. Good for him..
                                            get a job motherfukker
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                                            • chico2663
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-02-10
                                              • 36993

                                              #162
                                              man you are dim. Deregulation had nothing to do with the crises. Matter of fact if we would of had regulation than we wouldn't of suffered from the housing crises.The bankers and wall street investors packaged these homes as investment vestibules. Now if they had regulation than these iv would of had someone watching these e.g. insurance commissioner watching over them and would of regulated them. But they wouldn't allowed because there is supposed to be a certain amt. of money behind every investment. There was NO MONEY BEHIND THIS. When the foreign investors e.g. china said if we didn't make these (investment) good; they would take their money out of the usa. Now to blame this on fannie or freddie or even present day dem.is ludacris. THIS LAW was passed under jimmy carter. Because clinton was up for impeachment ;he didn't pay attention when the grahm-biley -leach law was passed.Republicans that allowed for ins co. to merge with banks and investment banks. There was no one to stop this. As far as BUsh; he pushed legis. that was passed where these properties went into foreclosure after a yr instead of 3 months. Don't argue with me on this because I was partnered with 2 other guys that had the cleanouts of these foreclosed homes in southern ohio and northern ky. So please tell me some more of your ignorance about bush. Now my uncle builds half of the oil rigs that have gone up since 69.So please tell me more about the bush family politics.
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                                              • ChalkyDog
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                                                • 10-02-11
                                                • 9598

                                                #163
                                                Gold, I don't disagree - I just feel you stopped roughly halfway to the full truth.
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                                                • byronbb
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                                                  • 11-13-08
                                                  • 3067

                                                  #164
                                                  If you believe in Democrats and Republicans as being anything other than two different words, you are a slave who will be owned from birth to death.
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                                                  • raydog
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                                                    • 11-07-07
                                                    • 6984

                                                    #165
                                                    oh dear...
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                                                    • scumbag
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                                                      • 11-02-13
                                                      • 3504

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by byronbb
                                                      If you believe in Democrats and Republicans as being anything other than two different words, you are a slave who will be owned from birth to death.
                                                      Economically thats largely true.

                                                      but there is a pretty big dif socially.

                                                      and it's kind of difficult saying that the Clinton's and Obama are the same kind of democrat as Liz Warren.

                                                      so there are pretty huge differences between even the Democratic Party.
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                                                      • Sam Odom
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                        • 58063

                                                        #167
                                                        Today's wacky liberal =


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                                                        • scumbag
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-02-13
                                                          • 3504

                                                          #168
                                                          Today's retarded conservative = Sam Odom
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                                                          • Sam Odom
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-30-05
                                                            • 58063

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom


                                                            Today's wacky liberal =


                                                            And...


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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by scumbag

                                                              Today's retarded conservative = Sam Odom

                                                              Very cogent and well thought out retort
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                                                              • Sam Odom
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-30-05
                                                                • 58063

                                                                #171
                                                                Dem platform for 2016 = Your kids aren't really your responsibility and businesses do not create jobs

                                                                That means the centralize govt (Feds) is responsibility for raising, teaching and instilling values in YOUR kids and that the centralize govt is responsibility for your kids future job assignments

                                                                Where have we heard that ?


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                                                                • ACoochy
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-19-09
                                                                  • 13949

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                  Dem platform for 2016 = Your kids aren't really your responsibility and businesses do not create jobs

                                                                  That means the centralize govt (Feds) is responsibility for raising, teaching and instilling values in YOUR kids and that the centralize govt is responsibility for your kids future job assignments

                                                                  Where have we heard that ?


                                                                  You lot tried leaving it up to business to run things and look how that turned out?

                                                                  Not only will you be paying for that screwup for decades to come but your children and their children will be forced to pay the price for the consequences of unbridled greed.

                                                                  Of course nobody expects you to take a degree of accountability here for that could be seen as going against the grain and heaven forbid you actually form ur own opinions here sammy...
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                                                                  • scumbag
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-02-13
                                                                    • 3504

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                                    You lot tried leaving it up to business to run things and look how that turned out?

                                                                    Not only will you be paying for that screwup for decades to come but your children and their children will be forced to pay the price for the consequences of unbridled greed.

                                                                    Of course nobody expects you to take a degree of accountability here for that could be seen as going against the grain and heaven forbid you actually form ur own opinions here sammy...
                                                                    well said sir.
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                                                                    • ByeShea
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-30-08
                                                                      • 7917

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by ACoochy
                                                                      You lot tried leaving it up to business to run things and look how that turned out?
                                                                      It turns out that people who want to make a living for themselves can and that people who want the government to provide for flat screen TVs have to settle for an Obamaphone.

                                                                      Now accept that Obama failed spectacularly and shut your pie hole, beetch.
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                                                                      • brooks85
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                                        • 44644

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by crustyme
                                                                        republicons controlled both the senate and house of rep and overwhelmingly passed the gramm-leachy-bliley act. it was "veto proof" meaning even had clinton vetoed it, it would still have passed. but i guess in ur delusional mind, it was all clinton's fault.




                                                                        no, i dont blame the republicons entirely, as the democrats did nothing to stop them. but that doesnt change the fact the deregulating was spearheaded by republicons to appease their donors from the banking industry, who had fought government regulations for decades.

                                                                        thanks for the compliment, too bad i cant say the same for u.

                                                                        lol
                                                                        lol you think you know what you're talking about but you don't. Since I do, I enjoy this game.

                                                                        Why was it veto proof crusty?
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