Are gambling winnings considered earned income?

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  • jankay
    SBR Hustler
    • 06-16-12
    • 64

    #1
    Are gambling winnings considered earned income?
    I'm currently in the process of filing for EI after I got laid off from my job recently. My question is, are gambling winnings considered earned income and therefore would affect the amount I receive or my eligibility to receive EI at all? I usually make around $2000 a month on bookies. Also FYI I am living in Ontario, Canada if that matters.

    Thanks in advance.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    lol

    dont report it you nit wit

    use your head man
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    • jankay
      SBR Hustler
      • 06-16-12
      • 64

      #3
      You're right but then again I'd rather not take the risk of being charged with EI fraud if it turns out that gambling winnings are considered earned income and therefore i'd have to report it.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        There is no way for the government to know how much are winning gambling it's impossible unless maybe Vegas and betting big
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        • jankay
          SBR Hustler
          • 06-16-12
          • 64

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          There is no way for the government to know how much are winning gambling it's impossible unless maybe Vegas and betting big
          Are you sure? Because i withdraw my winnings via wiretransfer directly to my bank account here in Canada on a monthly basis. I'm pretty sure the government has access to my bank records...
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          • Big Bear
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-01-11
            • 43253

            #6
            Originally posted by jankay
            I'm currently in the process of filing for EI after I got laid off from my job recently. My question is, are gambling winnings considered earned income and therefore would affect the amount I receive or my eligibility to receive EI at all? I usually make around $2000 a month on bookies. Also FYI I am living in Ontario, Canada if that matters.

            Thanks in advance.
            why dont u ever post a play?

            give us a winner
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            • jankay
              SBR Hustler
              • 06-16-12
              • 64

              #7
              Originally posted by Big Bear
              why dont u ever post a play?

              give us a winner
              As much as I'd like to, it won't be of much help since I only make live bets. I think you should never underestimate the power of live betting as it gives you the chance to read the momentum of the game which gives you a huge edge to beat the bookies as opposed to just blind betting and hoping that your team wins, this is especially true with soccer more so than any other sports. I'd say live betting on Soccer with 0:0 asian handicap/0:0 half time asian handicap is your bread and butter.
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              • chico2663
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-02-10
                • 36915

                #8
                are you getting a form w-2g or 1099. if not than you should be fine. Not sure of canadian govt but in usa they don't go into your accounts unless being audited and that is still doubtful.
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                • Big Bear
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-01-11
                  • 43253

                  #9
                  never had much luck with live betting...

                  do you have a particular strategy like say with football if u like a certain team wait and hope they start the game down 7-0 and then bet them at + money live?

                  or do you go ahead and pounce on the team that is already off to a 7-0 lead and lay heavy juice?
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                  • snapperman2
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-19-10
                    • 2078

                    #10
                    In Canada, unlike the U.S., you are not taxed on gambling income if you are a recreational gambler. Only professional gamblers have to pay tax on gambling income. It is not well defined what the difference between professional gamblers and recreational gamblers is. Professional gamblers must be consistently profitable.
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                    • Gee
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-08-10
                      • 4547

                      #11
                      Originally posted by snapperman2
                      In Canada, unlike the U.S., you are not taxed on gambling income if you are a recreational gambler. Only professional gamblers have to pay tax on gambling income. It is not well defined what the difference between professional gamblers and recreational gamblers is. Professional gamblers must be consistently profitable.
                      It's basically the same in Australia.

                      It completely depends on whether your gambling is being carried on as a business. It is judged by all the circumstances of any case and the usual indicia of whether it is a business.

                      I can't see canadian or australian governments bothering on 24K a year. It would cost a lot to prosecute this type of case without any guarantee of success.
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                      • Just Blaze
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-21-11
                        • 110

                        #12
                        If you report there is a decent chance you will be taxed, law is vague and not consistently applied. I highly recommend ID as your WD method in Canada, they are integrated into the canadian banking system and can do 20k a pop...$50,000 in wires a year can raise a flag with the CRA. If you move in excess of 6 figures annually in wires you will be audited, and not just for this year, especially if you were to do something like then max out your RRSP or TFSA for the year.

                        If you continue to win 5 figures+ a month you would fall into profession or systematic gambler, probably a low risk move as there are only a few cases of this known and it is more frequently poker players who play 12 hours a day.
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                        • qwertvt
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-04-09
                          • 1419

                          #13
                          To answer your question. Yes, it's earned income.

                          If you report it as gambling winnings your take will be taxed at 50%.

                          The legal definition of what constitutes taxable income is incredibly broad.
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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65641

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jankay
                            I think you should never underestimate the power of live betting as it gives you the chance to read the momentum of the game which gives you a huge edge to beat the bookies as opposed to just blind betting and hoping that your team wins, this is especially true with soccer more so than any other sports. I'd say live betting on Soccer with 0:0 asian handicap/0:0 half time asian handicap is your bread and butter.
                            I'm always live betting.
                            Now shame on you for asking that earned income question.
                            Come on man, even non gamblers know earned income is earned income.
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                            • Scorpion
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-04-05
                              • 7797

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Just Blaze
                              If you report there is a decent chance you will be taxed, law is vague and not consistently applied. I highly recommend ID as your WD method in Canada, they are integrated into the canadian banking system and can do 20k a pop...$50,000 in wires a year can raise a flag with the CRA. If you move in excess of 6 figures annually in wires you will be audited, and not just for this year, especially if you were to do something like then max out your RRSP or TFSA for the year.

                              If you continue to win 5 figures+ a month you would fall into profession or systematic gambler, probably a low risk move as there are only a few cases of this known and it is more frequently poker players who play 12 hours a day.
                              what is ID? did you mean TD?
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                              • Scorpion
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-04-05
                                • 7797

                                #16
                                instadebit moron
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                                • TheMetsSuck
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-14-12
                                  • 6146

                                  #17
                                  morons
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