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  • t-wizzle
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    • 12-18-09
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    #36
    Originally posted by jtoler
    It being a Thursday isnt an issue here. Once again the SEC will put to shame the Big 12.
    The SEC has been getting embarrassed lately.
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    • Bbfromgpt
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      #37
      Originally posted by t-wizzle
      The SEC has been getting embarrassed lately.
      You mean the lower SEC teams? Bc this isn't the 2011 SEC but the top is still pretty darn good. Auburn may or may not win or cover, but going in they are head and shoulders above KSU. It really isn't close. However, that doesn't always pan out as a W especially in road games.
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      • jtoler
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        #38
        Originally posted by CWD
        agree and baylor line dropped 3 points last week fri night game we all saw how that turned out for buffalo. not buying the night angle if anything its more incentive for teams to run it up for poll voters.

        havent seen anything substantial to sway me away from auburn, theyre # 2 in some power rankings and they just might be a monster vs an average k state team at best. i had respect for the old snyder teams but i dont think his latest stint at k state is going to be the same. he's close to 80 years old now and im just not buying that they can give auburn a game.
        Exactly, Snyder is a great coach and Im not sure how he did so well last year with that bunch, didnt look too talented but they stayed in games. Both teams on a bye so shouldnt be a big deal, yet every analyst Ive heard talk about the game talk about how freaky Thursday games are and anything can happen.
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        • jtoler
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          #39
          I figure Kstate will be sneaky on the passes if they are gonna win they are gonna have to make big plays on the pass, their qb runs as much as he passes, AU doesnt have the best of defenses at all but he'll see what if feels like to be hit by an SEC linesman tonight.
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          • No coincidences
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            #40
            Originally posted by t-wizzle
            If you don't like K State here that's fine, we don't need to agree on that.
            Never said that. Gun to my head, I'd take K-State or nothing -- I just wouldn't want anything less than 10.

            I'm just not sure why you bother using BOL "soft opening lines." Pinny makes their lines without regard to what a rec book has. The rec book then readjusts.
            Exactly. I'm not saying Pinnacle sets its line as a reaction to BOL. I'm saying you get a sneak peek of what a line is initially set at before the sharp book comes in and stakes their claim. More often than not, it's very valuable information.

            If you used this logic in the big UGA-SC game I know you would have gotten burned for example.
            I'm not saying it's significant or telling or clairvoyant 100% of the time. Again, it's something that I've made a lot of $$$ through the years keeping an eye on. If it wasn't worth mentioning, I wouldn't mention it.
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            • boomer62
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              #41
              Originally posted by t-wizzle
              If you don't like K State here that's fine, we don't need to agree on that.

              I'm just not sure why you bother using BOL "soft opening lines." Pinny makes their lines without regard to what a rec book has. The rec book then readjusts.

              If you used this logic in the big UGA-SC game I know you would have gotten burned for example.
              As I stated, the line should be Auburn by around 3 and they opened it at 71/2. Why?? That is a key number to be over a touchdown as a road favorite ,and money is still coming in on Auburn. Tough to take the dog and no value in Auburn either.
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              • davidcsmith
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                • 10-17-13
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                #42
                What's BOL?

                What is BOL?


                Originally posted by No coincidences
                Never said that. Gun to my head, I'd take K-State or nothing -- I just wouldn't want anything less than 10.



                Exactly. I'm not saying Pinnacle sets its line as a reaction to BOL. I'm saying you get a sneak peek of what a line is initially set at before the sharp book comes in and stakes their claim. More often than not, it's very valuable information.



                I'm not saying it's significant or telling or clairvoyant 100% of the time. Again, it's something that I've made a lot of $$$ through the years keeping an eye on. If it wasn't worth mentioning, I wouldn't mention it.
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                • No coincidences
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by davidcsmith
                  What is BOL?
                  BetOnline. The first book to post lines for the week.
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                  • str
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                    • 01-12-09
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                    Because a lot of football games are decided by 8 or 9 points?
                    FYI:

                    From 1983-2009 8 was 1.5% and 9 was 1.2%.

                    Not nothing but 2.7% is not very high in regards to score outcome.
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                    • jtoler
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by boomer62
                      As I stated, the line should be Auburn by around 3 and they opened it at 71/2. Why?? That is a key number to be over a touchdown as a road favorite ,and money is still coming in on Auburn. Tough to take the dog and no value in Auburn either.
                      For betting purposes it shouldnt be 3. Youd be run off from a book if you hung 3.
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                      • smoke a bowl
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                        Really no difference between 7.5 and 9.5.
                        Sure there is. The 8 and 9.
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                        • boomer62
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by str
                          FYI:

                          From 1983-2009 8 was 1.5% and 9 was 1.2%.

                          Not nothing but 2.7% is not very high in regards to score outcome.
                          YES! And sometimes they keep that number in that range for the stupid teaser players!!
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                          • t-wizzle
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                            #48
                            Lol Auburn -3? What is Boomer smoking??
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                            • str
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by boomer62
                              YES! And sometimes they keep that number in that range for the stupid teaser players!!
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                              • boomer62
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                Lol Auburn -3? What is Boomer smoking??
                                Well every team is given a power rating and then add a few points to the home team... Every game is within a range of a few points to get balances action.. People are so dumb on here!!
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                                • crbravens23
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                                  • 12-10-13
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                  Never said that. Gun to my head, I'd take K-State or nothing -- I just wouldn't want anything less than 10.



                                  Exactly. I'm not saying Pinnacle sets its line as a reaction to BOL. I'm saying you get a sneak peek of what a line is initially set at before the sharp book comes in and stakes their claim. More often than not, it's very valuable information.

                                  I've only been gambling for 1.5 years and this is crucial information. This is the type of info members on this forum should be paying attention to. Thank you!



                                  I'm not saying it's significant or telling or clairvoyant 100% of the time. Again, it's something that I've made a lot of $$$ through the years keeping an eye on. If it wasn't worth mentioning, I wouldn't mention it.
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                                  • jtoler
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                                    • 12-17-13
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by boomer62
                                    Well every team is given a power rating and then add a few points to the home team... Every game is within a range of a few points to get balances action.. People are so dumb on here!!
                                    Home field advantage?
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                                    • crustyme
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                                      • 09-29-10
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                                      #53
                                      whats the pt of arguing with this dumbfuk hindu?

                                      hes always wrong.

                                      lol
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                                      • t-wizzle
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by boomer62
                                        Well every team is given a power rating and then add a few points to the home team... Every game is within a range of a few points to get balances action.. People are so dumb on here!!
                                        Did you just start gambling recently? Like within a year or so?
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                                        • itchypickle
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                                          • 11-05-09
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                          The SEC has been getting embarrassed lately.
                                          A lowly Tenn loss to OU doesnt make the SEC look bad...for crying out loud 5 of top 10 in the country is from ONE SIDE of the conference and Georgia would have made it 6 had they not lost to Carolina.
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                                          • boomer62
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                            Did you just start gambling recently? Like within a year or so?
                                            Nope, over 30 years.. I know how to make lines and compare to the opening line. Not rocket science, but you do tend to lose and shoot your mouth off. Just throw in my opinions at times..
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                                            • itchypickle
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                                              • 11-05-09
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                                              #57
                                              Whitehead suspended and did not travel with the team to Manhattan for Auburn's secondary.
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                                              • valaub04
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                                                • 02-14-11
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                                                #58
                                                Just a word of advice, and all of you on here are old enough to do what you want with your money, but AU covers easily tonight. Yes, I'm a fan... but I enjoyed betting/winning money when betting against us in 2012 and have enjoyed betting on us and winning for a while now... 12 or 13 straight covers. That streak won't last much longer, but AU covers easily tonight. I also really like the over, and if you're into props I'd take Lockett from KSU going over anything reasonable in receiving yards, take yes on "special teams / defensive td", etc. Anyway, AU by a lot tonight. I think AU will hit some really big plays on jet sweeps running, and on vertical passing game.
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                                                • CWD
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by valaub04
                                                  Just a word of advice, and all of you on here are old enough to do what you want with your money, but AU covers easily tonight. Yes, I'm a fan... but I enjoyed betting/winning money when betting against us in 2012 and have enjoyed betting on us and winning for a while now... 12 or 13 straight covers. That streak won't last much longer, but AU covers easily tonight. I also really like the over, and if you're into props I'd take Lockett from KSU going over anything reasonable in receiving yards, take yes on "special teams / defensive td", etc. Anyway, AU by a lot tonight. I think AU will hit some really big plays on jet sweeps running, and on vertical passing game.
                                                  well said

                                                  end thread

                                                  on to the game
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                                                  • t-wizzle
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                                                    • 12-18-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by valaub04
                                                    Just a word of advice, and all of you on here are old enough to do what you want with your money, but AU covers easily tonight. Yes, I'm a fan... but I enjoyed betting/winning money when betting against us in 2012 and have enjoyed betting on us and winning for a while now... 12 or 13 straight covers. That streak won't last much longer, but AU covers easily tonight. I also really like the over, and if you're into props I'd take Lockett from KSU going over anything reasonable in receiving yards, take yes on "special teams / defensive td", etc. Anyway, AU by a lot tonight. I think AU will hit some really big plays on jet sweeps running, and on vertical passing game.
                                                    Thanks. Appreciate your input.
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                                                    • Snowball
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                                                      • 11-15-09
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                      2 points is 2 points. It becomes more important especially in higher scoring games.
                                                      t wizzle come on man. just plain wrong. this aint hoop ball.
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                                                      • Itsamazing777
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                                                        #62
                                                        You guys know that Snyder ( k state coach) was a pioneer of the offense that auburn runs right?
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                                                        • jtoler
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                                          You guys know that Snyder ( k state coach) was a pioneer of the offense that auburn runs right?
                                                          Let me know when he pioneers a defense that can stop it.
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                                                          • mcdonae101
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                                            Sure there is. The 8 and 9.
                                                            why is 6 afraid of 7,lol
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                                                            • SBRMAN23
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                                                              #65
                                                              Cause 7 8 9 lmao
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                                                              • Itsamazing777
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                Let me know when he pioneers a defense that can stop it.
                                                                K states defense isn't bad.....
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                                                                • portetdaspet
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  I'm taking the Under 63.5. I think either Auburn rolls and K-State will struggle to score or K-State plays some good D and both sides have drives long enough to run some time off.

                                                                  BOL to everyone.
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                                                    K states defense isn't bad.....
                                                                    Cant be as good as most SEC defenses.
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                                                                    • ReconSnarff
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                      Cant be as good as most SEC defenses.
                                                                      Did you watch the Georgia v SC game at all. Also Kentucky v Florida. Defense is a rarity now in the SEC. Edit: also see Texas A&M v SC
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                                                                      • jtoler
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by ReconSnarff
                                                                        Did you watch the Georgia v SC game at all. Also Kentucky v Florida. Defense is a rarity now in the SEC. Edit: also see Texas A&M v SC
                                                                        What youre leaving out are the future NFL offensive players who capitalized on those defenses. KState cant do those things to those defenses.
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