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	t-wizzleBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#36The SEC has been getting embarrassed lately.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	BbfromgptSBR Hall of Famer
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#37You mean the lower SEC teams? Bc this isn't the 2011 SEC but the top is still pretty darn good. Auburn may or may not win or cover, but going in they are head and shoulders above KSU. It really isn't close. However, that doesn't always pan out as a W especially in road games.Originally posted by t-wizzleThe SEC has been getting embarrassed lately.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#38Exactly, Snyder is a great coach and Im not sure how he did so well last year with that bunch, didnt look too talented but they stayed in games. Both teams on a bye so shouldnt be a big deal, yet every analyst Ive heard talk about the game talk about how freaky Thursday games are and anything can happen.Originally posted by CWDagree and baylor line dropped 3 points last week fri night game we all saw how that turned out for buffalo. not buying the night angle if anything its more incentive for teams to run it up for poll voters.
havent seen anything substantial to sway me away from auburn, theyre # 2 in some power rankings and they just might be a monster vs an average k state team at best. i had respect for the old snyder teams but i dont think his latest stint at k state is going to be the same. he's close to 80 years old now and im just not buying that they can give auburn a game.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#39I figure Kstate will be sneaky on the passes if they are gonna win they are gonna have to make big plays on the pass, their qb runs as much as he passes, AU doesnt have the best of defenses at all but he'll see what if feels like to be hit by an SEC linesman tonight.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
- 01-18-10
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#40Never said that. Gun to my head, I'd take K-State or nothing -- I just wouldn't want anything less than 10.Originally posted by t-wizzleIf you don't like K State here that's fine, we don't need to agree on that.
Exactly. I'm not saying Pinnacle sets its line as a reaction to BOL. I'm saying you get a sneak peek of what a line is initially set at before the sharp book comes in and stakes their claim. More often than not, it's very valuable information.I'm just not sure why you bother using BOL "soft opening lines." Pinny makes their lines without regard to what a rec book has. The rec book then readjusts.
I'm not saying it's significant or telling or clairvoyant 100% of the time. Again, it's something that I've made a lot of $$$ through the years keeping an eye on. If it wasn't worth mentioning, I wouldn't mention it.If you used this logic in the big UGA-SC game I know you would have gotten burned for example.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	boomer62SBR MVP
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#41As I stated, the line should be Auburn by around 3 and they opened it at 71/2. Why?? That is a key number to be over a touchdown as a road favorite ,and money is still coming in on Auburn. Tough to take the dog and no value in Auburn either.Originally posted by t-wizzleIf you don't like K State here that's fine, we don't need to agree on that.
I'm just not sure why you bother using BOL "soft opening lines." Pinny makes their lines without regard to what a rec book has. The rec book then readjusts.
If you used this logic in the big UGA-SC game I know you would have gotten burned for example.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	davidcsmithSBR Rookie
- 10-17-13
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#42What's BOL?
What is BOL?
Originally posted by No coincidencesNever said that. Gun to my head, I'd take K-State or nothing -- I just wouldn't want anything less than 10.
Exactly. I'm not saying Pinnacle sets its line as a reaction to BOL. I'm saying you get a sneak peek of what a line is initially set at before the sharp book comes in and stakes their claim. More often than not, it's very valuable information.
I'm not saying it's significant or telling or clairvoyant 100% of the time. Again, it's something that I've made a lot of $$$ through the years keeping an eye on. If it wasn't worth mentioning, I wouldn't mention it.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
- 01-18-10
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#43BetOnline. The first book to post lines for the week.Originally posted by davidcsmithWhat is BOL?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	strSBR Posting Legend
- 01-12-09
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#44FYI:Originally posted by No coincidencesBecause a lot of football games are decided by 8 or 9 points?
From 1983-2009 8 was 1.5% and 9 was 1.2%.
Not nothing but 2.7% is not very high in regards to score outcome.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#45For betting purposes it shouldnt be 3. Youd be run off from a book if you hung 3.Originally posted by boomer62As I stated, the line should be Auburn by around 3 and they opened it at 71/2. Why?? That is a key number to be over a touchdown as a road favorite ,and money is still coming in on Auburn. Tough to take the dog and no value in Auburn either.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	smoke a bowlSBR MVP
- 02-09-09
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#46Sure there is. The 8 and 9.Originally posted by No coincidencesReally no difference between 7.5 and 9.5.
							
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	boomer62SBR MVP
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#47YES! And sometimes they keep that number in that range for the stupid teaser players!!Originally posted by strFYI:
From 1983-2009 8 was 1.5% and 9 was 1.2%.
Not nothing but 2.7% is not very high in regards to score outcome.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	t-wizzleBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#48Lol Auburn -3? What is Boomer smoking??Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	strSBR Posting Legend
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#49Originally posted by boomer62YES! And sometimes they keep that number in that range for the stupid teaser players!!
							
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	boomer62SBR MVP
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#50Well every team is given a power rating and then add a few points to the home team... Every game is within a range of a few points to get balances action.. People are so dumb on here!!Originally posted by t-wizzleLol Auburn -3? What is Boomer smoking??Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	crbravens23SBR Sharp
- 12-10-13
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#51Originally posted by No coincidencesNever said that. Gun to my head, I'd take K-State or nothing -- I just wouldn't want anything less than 10.
Exactly. I'm not saying Pinnacle sets its line as a reaction to BOL. I'm saying you get a sneak peek of what a line is initially set at before the sharp book comes in and stakes their claim. More often than not, it's very valuable information.
I've only been gambling for 1.5 years and this is crucial information. This is the type of info members on this forum should be paying attention to. Thank you!
I'm not saying it's significant or telling or clairvoyant 100% of the time. Again, it's something that I've made a lot of $$$ through the years keeping an eye on. If it wasn't worth mentioning, I wouldn't mention it.
							
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	jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#52Home field advantage?Originally posted by boomer62Well every team is given a power rating and then add a few points to the home team... Every game is within a range of a few points to get balances action.. People are so dumb on here!!Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	crustymeSBR Posting Legend
- 09-29-10
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#53whats the pt of arguing with this dumbfuk hindu?
hes always wrong.
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	t-wizzleBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#54Did you just start gambling recently? Like within a year or so?Originally posted by boomer62Well every team is given a power rating and then add a few points to the home team... Every game is within a range of a few points to get balances action.. People are so dumb on here!!Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	itchypickleSBR Posting Legend
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#55A lowly Tenn loss to OU doesnt make the SEC look bad...for crying out loud 5 of top 10 in the country is from ONE SIDE of the conference and Georgia would have made it 6 had they not lost to Carolina.Originally posted by t-wizzleThe SEC has been getting embarrassed lately.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	boomer62SBR MVP
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#56Nope, over 30 years.. I know how to make lines and compare to the opening line. Not rocket science, but you do tend to lose and shoot your mouth off. Just throw in my opinions at times..Originally posted by t-wizzleDid you just start gambling recently? Like within a year or so?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	itchypickleSBR Posting Legend
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#57Whitehead suspended and did not travel with the team to Manhattan for Auburn's secondary.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	valaub04SBR Wise Guy
- 02-14-11
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#58Just a word of advice, and all of you on here are old enough to do what you want with your money, but AU covers easily tonight. Yes, I'm a fan... but I enjoyed betting/winning money when betting against us in 2012 and have enjoyed betting on us and winning for a while now... 12 or 13 straight covers. That streak won't last much longer, but AU covers easily tonight. I also really like the over, and if you're into props I'd take Lockett from KSU going over anything reasonable in receiving yards, take yes on "special teams / defensive td", etc. Anyway, AU by a lot tonight. I think AU will hit some really big plays on jet sweeps running, and on vertical passing game.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	CWDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-22-12
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#59well saidOriginally posted by valaub04Just a word of advice, and all of you on here are old enough to do what you want with your money, but AU covers easily tonight. Yes, I'm a fan... but I enjoyed betting/winning money when betting against us in 2012 and have enjoyed betting on us and winning for a while now... 12 or 13 straight covers. That streak won't last much longer, but AU covers easily tonight. I also really like the over, and if you're into props I'd take Lockett from KSU going over anything reasonable in receiving yards, take yes on "special teams / defensive td", etc. Anyway, AU by a lot tonight. I think AU will hit some really big plays on jet sweeps running, and on vertical passing game.
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	t-wizzleBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#60Thanks. Appreciate your input.Originally posted by valaub04Just a word of advice, and all of you on here are old enough to do what you want with your money, but AU covers easily tonight. Yes, I'm a fan... but I enjoyed betting/winning money when betting against us in 2012 and have enjoyed betting on us and winning for a while now... 12 or 13 straight covers. That streak won't last much longer, but AU covers easily tonight. I also really like the over, and if you're into props I'd take Lockett from KSU going over anything reasonable in receiving yards, take yes on "special teams / defensive td", etc. Anyway, AU by a lot tonight. I think AU will hit some really big plays on jet sweeps running, and on vertical passing game.
							
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	SnowballBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#61t wizzle come on man. just plain wrong. this aint hoop ball.Originally posted by t-wizzle2 points is 2 points. It becomes more important especially in higher scoring games.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Itsamazing777SBR Posting Legend
- 11-14-12
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#62You guys know that Snyder ( k state coach) was a pioneer of the offense that auburn runs right?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#63Let me know when he pioneers a defense that can stop it.Originally posted by Itsamazing777You guys know that Snyder ( k state coach) was a pioneer of the offense that auburn runs right?Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	mcdonae101SBR MVP
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#64why is 6 afraid of 7,lolOriginally posted by smoke a bowlSure there is. The 8 and 9.
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	SBRMAN23SBR Hall of Famer- 01-07-11
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#65Cause 7 8 9 lmaoComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	Itsamazing777SBR Posting Legend
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#66K states defense isn't bad.....Originally posted by jtolerLet me know when he pioneers a defense that can stop it.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	portetdaspetSBR High Roller
- 08-27-14
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#67I'm taking the Under 63.5. I think either Auburn rolls and K-State will struggle to score or K-State plays some good D and both sides have drives long enough to run some time off.
BOL to everyone.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#68Cant be as good as most SEC defenses.Originally posted by Itsamazing777K states defense isn't bad.....Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	ReconSnarffSBR MVP
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#69Did you watch the Georgia v SC game at all. Also Kentucky v Florida. Defense is a rarity now in the SEC. Edit: also see Texas A&M v SCOriginally posted by jtolerCant be as good as most SEC defenses.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#70What youre leaving out are the future NFL offensive players who capitalized on those defenses. KState cant do those things to those defenses.Originally posted by ReconSnarffDid you watch the Georgia v SC game at all. Also Kentucky v Florida. Defense is a rarity now in the SEC. Edit: also see Texas A&M v SCComment 
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