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  • picantel
    SBR MVP
    • 09-17-05
    • 4338

    #1
    betcris again
    Bill I could use some help again with betcris- again and the horses-again. I know they are watching my account closely and they are doing a good job cutting off the betting when the race goes off now. I have only seem them fail 1 time on a northfield park race in which they cut if off about 3/4 into the race. In the last 2 weeks they have still canceled 7 of my bets- 3 of them winners and insanely enough 4 of them were losing bets. It just goes to show what I have been stating over and over- their timers are off from the posttime. They just canceled a weenie $25 to win on a 9/2 shot. The posttime on brisnet said 1:38 and their timer said 1:39. The problem? I made it before they even entered the gate and since the race went over a minute and because there was a 4way photo finish there was no way to correctly pick that horse after knowing the results. When I called they cannot even find the stupid ticket and as usual Bob is out of the office. The ticket# is 590816. It was $25 to win on the 9 horses in the 9th race at finger lakes. Not a big ticket but frankly I am sick of it. Yes I know I should not be playing this book but I was at disney and that was the only account I had open and I felt like some ponies.
  • Pedro
    SBR Sharp
    • 08-23-05
    • 305

    #2
    I don't understand why you are still using them.

    Haven't you learned your lesson, yet?

    Pedro
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Piker play on track with horses and waht I mean by that is is legal USA online race books
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      • picantel
        SBR MVP
        • 09-17-05
        • 4338

        #4
        Call me stubborn Pedro. I thought after talking to Bob we had an understanding. They have been near perfect shutting down the betting when the race went off so it is impossible to post bet even if you wanted to. They are also meticulously watching my account and even admitted to doing it for post bets. This time I am not gonna take it up the hiney though.
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        • raiders72001
          Senior Member
          • 08-10-05
          • 11126

          #5
          Dozer- Time to throw out these scammers such as picantel. The guy tried to scam BetCris once and now is at it again.
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          • moses millsap
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-25-05
            • 8289

            #6
            Play horses at Pinnacle.
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            • freebie
              SBR MVP
              • 08-10-05
              • 1174

              #7
              The guy got lucky the first time, so he thinks it's another easy street so he tries the same thing again.
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              • freebie
                SBR MVP
                • 08-10-05
                • 1174

                #8
                BTW, where is that scammer list SBR was talking about on their front page 1 month ago?
                Is there a link?
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                • pags11
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-18-05
                  • 12264

                  #9
                  sounds a little fishy to me...
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                  • picantel
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-17-05
                    • 4338

                    #10
                    Sure thing raiders I often try to scam on a $25. Do you speak to just hear yourself when nobody else gives a crap what you say?
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Piker your making your own trouble
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                      • picantel
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-17-05
                        • 4338

                        #12
                        sure thing JJ like something is not wrong with the book? I have thought about this long and hard as to what is going on. After all, how can you get a past post bet on their timer yet they are turning the race off for betting either at the start or even before it. I think the answer could be the recorded time. You have 2 different clocks in 2 different time zones. I was thinking that if the time keeper at the track was even one minute off it could show up as a past post bet. I know 100% my bets are in before the gate went off. Remember that they have also cancelled 4 of my losers and some of them were considerable higher bets than the last weenie $25 bet they cancelled. I talked to the guy at Cris and he said the bet was exactly 1 minute after post. Exactly. Not seconds but 1 full minute. That means either the track listed the posttime 1 minute off or the timer at cris is one minute off.
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                        • LGBoots
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 742

                          #13
                          Think you are going to have to consider giving CRIS a miss for late bet Horse Racing Picantel.

                          It's not worth it if you are going to have to chase them up after every bet

                          CRIS are a good book but their system is obviously not geared up for last min horse betting.
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                          • natrass
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-14-05
                            • 1242

                            #14
                            picantel ... is it just you who has these problems?
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                            • picantel
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-17-05
                              • 4338

                              #15
                              Not a clue natrass. NEver meant another person on the forums who bets the ponies at Cris nor does it at gate loading which you have to do to win. For example, last night I was watching the odds last minute as I always do and a horse went from 8-1 to 7/2 while loading the gate at a track that sits on pretty heavy money. Someone would have had to put a load of cash on him at the last second and they had to have known something was up. Sure enough, the horse explodes down the stretch after showing nothing his last few previous races and crushes the field by around 6+ lengths. that is why you bet last minute.
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                              • THESCOUT
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 09-07-05
                                • 97

                                #16
                                The only dude complaining about cris and ponys , Quite strange, perhaps a scammer, perhaps a glutton for punishment,perhaps in need of therapy.
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                                • slugger
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 10-07-05
                                  • 34

                                  #17
                                  I called Cris and this guy has tried to scam them over $5,000 in the past year. All I did was cal and told the girl the forum and thread and they knew right away about this fraud.
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                                  • natrass
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-14-05
                                    • 1242

                                    #18
                                    Slugger .. Ive gotta say (and I know I am no one to talk) ... but your posts are just childish fantasy stuff ... and pretty dull now.
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                                    • slugger
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 10-07-05
                                      • 34

                                      #19
                                      This guys is a fraud period. Call Cris and confirm.
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                                      • picantel
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-17-05
                                        • 4338

                                        #20
                                        You are so full of it slugger. Tried to scam them over 5k this year lol?
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                                        • slugger
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 10-07-05
                                          • 34

                                          #21
                                          picantel are you calling me a liar?? Common tough guy and call me a liar on this forum
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                                          • picantel
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-17-05
                                            • 4338

                                            #22
                                            yah you are a liar
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                                            • slugger
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 10-07-05
                                              • 34

                                              #23
                                              Lets go tough guy. I was a big time athlete and wil bury you. Where do you want to meet??
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                                              • picantel
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-17-05
                                                • 4338

                                                #24
                                                hahaha. obviously those roids went to your brain(or what counts as a man's brain). hahaha
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Piker are you going to play at a new racebooks soon?
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                                                  • Illusion
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 08-09-05
                                                    • 25166

                                                    #26
                                                    picantel, it looks like you should just switch to pinnacle. I'm not taking a side on this one, but it sounds like you would be better suited leaving cris and making a switch.
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                                                    • picantel
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-17-05
                                                      • 4338

                                                      #27
                                                      I did open an account at pinnacle but they want me to go out and make copies of my credit cards and crap like that and then send it over to them. I think not. I got a brochure from betroyal and a 10% straight up rebate on horses but people do not seem very impressed with that site.
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                                                      • Bill Dozer
                                                        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                        • 07-12-05
                                                        • 10894

                                                        #28
                                                        Pic,

                                                        You should send an email to Bob with your wagering info and CC me once again. You are aware that your watch does not line up with theirs, as even your losers are canceled. At some point you need to consider it fair warning and move on.


                                                        Originally posted by natrass
                                                        picantel ... is it just you who has these problems?
                                                        HIs was the only CRIS race complaint we have received.
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                                                        • tacomax
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 9619

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                          You are aware that your watch does not line up with theirs, as even your losers are canceled. At some point you need to consider it fair warning and move on.
                                                          And that is the most important aspect. I don't think that Cris are out to scam you, nor do I think that you're out to scam Cris. However, picantel, the type of wagers you like to place really aren't really geared up to a place like Cris. That is blindingly obvious. If you want to bet at a book that allows you to place wagers a matter of seconds before the off, then you need a speciality book that will allow this.
                                                          Originally posted by pags11
                                                          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
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                                                          • Illusion
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 08-09-05
                                                            • 25166

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by tacomax
                                                            And that is the most important aspect. I don't think that Cris are out to scam you, nor do I think that you're out to scam Cris. However, picantel, the type of wagers you like to place really aren't really geared up to a place like Cris. That is blindingly obvious. If you want to bet at a book that allows you to place wagers a matter of seconds before the off, then you need a speciality book that will allow this.
                                                            Bingo
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                                                            • picantel
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-17-05
                                                              • 4338

                                                              #31
                                                              Can you give me his email address Bob. I have tried calling but always miss him. Our watches mean nothing. We are talking only 7 races they have as past post out of hundreds I have bet over the last 2-3 weeks. Remember, 4 of the races they cancelled were losing tickets. Also, Cris is a book that allows last second bets. Many of the sites, including my bodog account, cut it off with a few minutes left. As I was stating before it is pretty much impossible to past post at Cris now. They do a much better job of shutting down the race than they used to. I have only seen 1 race and a harness race at that in which they did not cut it off. The only logical thing I can think of is the time keeper at the actual racetrack is not always on the money. I watch all races live so I know when the stuff goes off. I would be interested in seeing on the race in question I listed above what time Cris has themselves cutting off the race. That may prove that I did not past post.
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