Tony Dungy's Comments On Michael Sam

[R.P. McMurphy]

Wow just heard about the Tyree hiring. No way to win these battles ever in true honesty. What it really comes down to are extremists/fanatics are generally very narrow minded and hard headed people to deal with. And that is ironic if you are liberal considering how "open minded" and free thinking you are.

Truth of the matter is the most intelligent, reasonable, and open minded people I have ever come across don't lean real hard one way or the other. But a nice blend of liberal and conservative is always good! Extremists generally dont look to read between the lines and exam the content of what they are getting worked up about with a level head. Instead opt to just stick with the script embedded in their brain.

[Cuse0323]

I don't care what a person's beliefs are if it doesn't affect their ability to do their job. In this case I don't know exactly what Tyree's job will entail but unless he's making decisions that are specifically discriminating against gays (i.e. "let's get rid of this guy because he's gay") then it shouldn't matter.

He's the new director of player development. It's just funny that people want freedom of religion and sexuality, etc. but to have a differing opinion on those things is blasphemy in the media.

[crustyme]

had dungy and tyree said bush was a war criminal who deserved the death penalty, the same clowns defending their 1st amendment would call for their firings.

typical double standard for the neo-nitwits.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

I'm a Christian as well, I'm not judging. His actions of coming out is clownish. He didn't have to do it. No-one asked him, therefore he wasn't lying?

Nobody asked you if you were Chritstian, yet you came out and said it.

[Mr KLC]

He's the new director of player development. It's just funny that people want freedom of religion and sexuality, etc. but to have a differing opinion on those things is blasphemy in the media.

Its like the term they always spout, "Seperation of church and state". They have no problem screaming about leaving the church out of the state's business, but it's no big deal keeping the state out of the church's business.

[Cuse0323]

had dungy and tyree said bush was a war criminal who deserved the death penalty, the same clowns defending their 1st amendment would call for their firings.

typical double standard for the neo-nitwits.

What it comes down to for me is people should be able to have any opinion they want. You want equal rights for all but no freedom of speech. In the end, everyone should just keep their shut anyway and do their job.

[Cuse0323]

Its like the term they always spout, "Seperation of church and state". They have no problem screaming about leaving the church out of the state's business, but it's no big deal keeping the state out of the church's business.

It's funny how that works. When it's something they're against then there's no problem speaking out about it but god forbid it's a differing opinion on something they believe.

[DrStale]

Its like the term they always spout, "Seperation of church and state". They have no problem screaming about leaving the church out of the state's business, but it's no big deal keeping the state out of the church's business.

Where are people advocating for the state to get involved in church business? I'm sure im one of those spouters you refer too and I don't want either institution anywhere near each other and I'd love to have the tax breaks that the state gives churches removed.

[DrStale]

He's the new director of player development. It's just funny that people want freedom of religion and sexuality, etc. but to have a differing opinion on those things is blasphemy in the media.

It is indeed being overblown. While I have little doubt that Tyree probably doesn't like gays he hasn't threatened them or done them any specific harm so there's no reason to disallow him from working anywhere really. I don't have to agree with someone to be tolerant of them, in fact that's kind of the point. Inform and hope people accept things, but bullying someone into thinking the same way you do isn't going to be effective.

[Cuse0323]

It is indeed being overblown. While I have little doubt that Tyree probably doesn't like gays he hasn't threatened them or done them any specific harm so there's no reason to disallow him from working anywhere really. I don't have to agree with someone to be tolerant of them, in fact that's kind of the point. Inform and hope people accept things, but bullying someone into thinking the same way you do isn't going to be effective.

Absolutely, well said.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Well said Crusty and it lends itself to what I stated above. Extremists on either side are fukking morons! This will all blow over sooner than later tho. The "machine" will have a new story to grind on any day now and Dungy's ally/savior will present himself soon enough. Maybe this weekend Manziel gets kicked out of a club in NYC being photographed with a porn star on each arm lol

[King Mayan]

Nobody asked you if you were Chritstian, yet you came out and said it.

[StackinGreen]

And yet that's twice now that you've failed to back up your claim. It's easy to throw something out there, and I'm not even saying you are wrong necessarily, but if you don't back it up then it's meaningless.

I work in the mental health field. I have personally seen many sexual identification issues that have caused people to deal with isolation and depression. I have seen these people become happier and healthier when they acknowledged who they were. Granted many still faced some struggles due to how those around them reacted, but all improved when they accepted themselves.

Also, if secular humanism is delusional I would love to know what religion is.

You seem like a smart, thoughtful person so I'm a bit dumbfounded why you can't come up with at least a few obvious people who were celibate and not only healthy but enlightened.

The God-Man Jesus Christ is the most obvious example. Others would include intelligent, healthy, and wise people like Buddha and Dalai Lama. Most Saints, particularly the Desert Fathers, but there are many. These include both men and women.

Want a totally secular (known) person (not that he wasn't christian)? Nikola Tesla.

The examples are countless.

Our culture is delusional. Many religions are absolutely delusions. Offshoots of mainstream religions teach bad things, as do some "major" religions.

In summary, we are all living lives of delusion to a certain extent, but some of us realize it and are trying to fight it, and others among us are embracing it.

[Swinging Johnson]

I wrote an article on this very topic.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/nfl-football/news/viewing-michael-sam-props-based-tony-dungy-comments-a-48165/

[DrStale]

You seem like a smart, thoughtful person so I'm a bit dumbfounded why you can't come up with at least a few obvious people who were celibate and not only healthy but enlightened.

The God-Man Jesus Christ is the most obvious example. Others would include intelligent, healthy, and wise people like Buddha and Dalai Lama. Most Saints, particularly the Desert Fathers, but there are many. These include both men and women.

Want a totally secular (known) person (not that he wasn't christian)? Nikola Tesla.

The examples are countless.

Our culture is delusional. Many religions are absolutely delusions. Offshoots of mainstream religions teach bad things, as do some "major" religions.

In summary, we are all living lives of delusion to a certain extent, but some of us realize it and are trying to fight it, and others among us are embracing it.

Choosing to be celibate is not the same thing as being told your sexual views are wrong and being forced by society to ignore them, unless your argument is that those listed above were homosexual.

And I'm not going to get into a whole thing here but most Saints as well as Jesus were likely not celibate. And Tesla? Brilliant, but definitely not mentally healthy.

Will likely have to agree to disagree here.

[Buddy Green]

If RuPaul could score TDs I would draft him. Who cares who this schwartze fairy schtups as long as he makes tackles.

[actiondan]

What if he gets shmutz on his schvantz? Oy vey

[R.P. McMurphy]

Well like I stated above it would not take long before the machine gets another story to chew on and Dungy gets put on the backburner.

Dear Ray Rice I truly would like to thank you and send my gratitude for being a piece of shit that beats his wife but I'm sure dat hoe had it coming. The ruling on this matter could not have come at a better time for me. Don't worry you have paid it forward and someone will come along any day now to divert attention and get the soapbox/self righteous mafia off your back. Sincerely yours.... Tony Dungy

[StackinGreen]

Choosing to be celibate is not the same thing as being told your sexual views are wrong and being forced by society to ignore them, unless your argument is that those listed above were homosexual.

And I'm not going to get into a whole thing here but most Saints as well as Jesus were likely not celibate. And Tesla? Brilliant, but definitely not mentally healthy.

Will likely have to agree to disagree here.

As for your first statement, society tells christians all the time their views on sexuality are wrong. The difference is that the christian's view on it is healthy if the traditional view is given.

Then you go on to conjecture city. I have evidence and know it is a fact that Christ and several saints through the ages (I even gave non christian persons who are holy men and are celibate) were not sexually active. You have NO evidence of it, just an a priori belief, which is a non-evidenced, personally biased claim. Just so we are clear.

You can disagree and I have no problem, but please be aware you have no real reason to believe what you do, that is, any concrete reason.

[James D]

Now the media wants David Tyree. Unreal!

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...ng-david-tyree

Good response by big blue GM ........

Reese said he's not worried about comments Tyree made in the past.


"In this day and age, sometimes you say some things that maybe you don't want to say or you shouldn't have said or something like that, and things can get blown out of proportion to degree.


"But I'm not here to talk about social issues or somebody's personal opinion about their beliefs. I believe everybody should be treated equal. I believe everybody should be treated fairly. I believe everybody should have an opinion to what they want to say. And most of all, I believe that I should mind my own business and keep the plank out of my own eye. I think that's what I believe the most," he said.

[stealthyburrito]

As for your first statement, society tells christians all the time their views on sexuality are wrong. The difference is that the christian's view on it is healthy if the traditional view is given.

Then you go on to conjecture city. I have evidence and know it is a fact that Christ and several saints through the ages (I even gave non christian persons who are holy men and are celibate) were not sexually active. You have NO evidence of it, just an a priori belief, which is a non-evidenced, personally biased claim. Just so we are clear.

You can disagree and I have no problem, but please be aware you have no real reason to believe what you do, that is, any concrete reason.

[Cuse0323]

Good response by big blue GM ........

Reese said he's not worried about comments Tyree made in the past.


"In this day and age, sometimes you say some things that maybe you don't want to say or you shouldn't have said or something like that, and things can get blown out of proportion to degree.


"But I'm not here to talk about social issues or somebody's personal opinion about their beliefs. I believe everybody should be treated equal. I believe everybody should be treated fairly. I believe everybody should have an opinion to what they want to say. And most of all, I believe that I should mind my own business and keep the plank out of my own eye. I think that's what I believe the most," he said.

Boom...that's how it should be so I'm glad to see him staying behind Tyree and his freedom to have an opinion. It's not going to affect his work and the Giants feel he is the best man for the job. He has worked hard to get to this position and is the best man for the job in their eyes so that's all that matters.

[homie1975]

It's already been forgotten and that has nothing to do with dungy being black. It's been forgotten because:

A. Dungy is very nice and is extremely well respected.

B. Stephen a Smith is getting the attention now in terms of politically incorrect comments

[DrStale]

As for your first statement, society tells christians all the time their views on sexuality are wrong. The difference is that the christian's view on it is healthy if the traditional view is given.

Then you go on to conjecture city. I have evidence and know it is a fact that Christ and several saints through the ages (I even gave non christian persons who are holy men and are celibate) were not sexually active. You have NO evidence of it, just an a priori belief, which is a non-evidenced, personally biased claim. Just so we are clear.

You can disagree and I have no problem, but please be aware you have no real reason to believe what you do, that is, any concrete reason.

Um, what?