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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 65684

    #1
    Nationals on the run line tonight
    Nats +115 reduced juice 5D

    Fister is loving life in DC (I know, the game is in Denver tonight)
    Never was a Fister fan, but you have to admire what he's doing in the NL this season.
    I don't care how good Rox hit at home, Franklin Morales is a hamburger, he's a crappy lefty facing a team that starts LHP killers.

    Take a look at what Rendon, Werth, Ramos, Clown Boy is doing to LHP this season.
    Get the full batting stats for the 2025 Regular Season Washington Nationals on ESPN. Includes team leaders in batting average, RBIs and home runs.


    Those are big boy numbers.
    I don't care if the Rox put up five, Nats should waylay Morales.

    I like run lines on the road with the better stater at times, this is a spot I like.

    Nats -1.5 3*
  • Monitor-Tan
    SBR MVP
    • 02-20-11
    • 4460

    #2
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    • Dollars2Donuts
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-07-13
      • 8803

      #3
      No thoughts on the over here? I generally only get the under in Colorado (I pick my spots and it always seems to work as the numbers are ao damn high).
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      • MoneyIsWater
        SBR MVP
        • 11-04-13
        • 1341

        #4
        I'm a stats guy when it comes to baseball.

        Nat's ML and RL are very very very good bets today.

        ERAs alone make the bet easy.
        2.90 vs 5.26

        Nat's put up 3 in first two innings then cruise to victory 8-4.

        Fister pitches 7 strong innings.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65684

          #5
          ^
          It's 10.5 and 11
          I see a 10.5 juiced to the beejeezus at -125
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          • RollinDo
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-04-13
            • 13322

            #6
            Love the Under 11 here.
            Also Nats ML...small play
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            • Cappinpicks
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-11-10
              • 14986

              #7
              Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
              No thoughts on the over here? I generally only get the under in Colorado (I pick my spots and it always seems to work as the numbers are ao damn high).
              mostly all overs unless u hit the few under streaks
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #8
                I like COLORADO quite a bit here. Don't like Fister in his first ever start at Coors, he is a contact pitcher that does not strike out many and his pitches don't figure to sink as much in the altitude. Plus he is overrated to begin with, he only has a 4.12 FIP and 3.90 xFIP. I get that non-strikeout guys may have their FIP skewed a bit, but the bigger takeaway here is the thing he relies on the most (ball movement) may not be there as usual.
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                • 44 Mag
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 10-14-13
                  • 34490

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RollinDo
                  Love the Under 11 here.
                  Also Nats ML...small play
                  Thanks, now I can go over. LOL.
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                  • James Marques
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-04-14
                    • 1605

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                    I'm a stats guy when it comes to baseball.

                    Nat's ML and RL are very very very good bets today.

                    ERAs alone make the bet easy.
                    2.90 vs 5.26

                    Nat's put up 3 in first two innings then cruise to victory 8-4.

                    Fister pitches 7 strong innings.
                    Comparing ERAs of two different pitchers. One plays in a pitcher's park, the other in a freaking batter's paradise. I'd be willing to bet Fister's ERA in Colorado would be closer to 4.20 or so. Plus, ERA is a lousy stat anyway.

                    Still, Washington probably wins... but not worth the juice IMO. I'll stick with the over.
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                    • 44 Mag
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                      • 10-14-13
                      • 34490

                      #11
                      Originally posted by James Marques
                      Comparing ERAs of two different pitchers. One plays in a pitcher's park, the other in a freaking batter's paradise. I'd be willing to bet Fister's ERA in Colorado would be closer to 4.20 or so. Plus, ERA is a lousy stat anyway.

                      Still, Washington probably wins... but not worth the juice IMO. I'll stick with the over.
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                      • RollinDo
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-04-13
                        • 13322

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 44 Mag
                        Thanks, now I can go over. LOL.
                        You may be right, but I gotta go with the Under.
                        Both teams struggle on Mondays at the plate...Morales either comes through in big spots or gets mashed...hoping it's the former. Rockies not putting up huge totals at home lately....Fister been tough vs Rockies and away.
                        Just know that I am hitting 62% on Unders since June 1.
                        Also Milwaukee Under 8.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          good number

                          might tail
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                          • DrStale
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-07-08
                            • 9692

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                            I'm a stats guy when it comes to baseball.

                            Nat's ML and RL are very very very good bets today.

                            ERAs alone make the bet easy.
                            2.90 vs 5.26

                            Nat's put up 3 in first two innings then cruise to victory 8-4.

                            Fister pitches 7 strong innings.
                            LOL, a stats guy who thinks a bet is easy based entirely on the ERA of the starting pitchers.
                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                            • MoneyIsWater
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-04-13
                              • 1341

                              #15
                              OK guys.

                              Then back MORALES.

                              While I claim my winnings on a team that is playing real ball.

                              Nat's 8-4.
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                              • RollinDo
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-04-13
                                • 13322

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                                Nat's 8-4.
                                Stats guy AND English major.
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                                • Big Bear
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-01-11
                                  • 43253

                                  #17
                                  LT Profits,

                                  Fister is a sinker baller. When Jordan Lyles had success pitching at Coors early this season it was the sinker ball that was his primary pitch.

                                  Fister will get contact but in the form of ground balls.

                                  97 degrees in Denver tonight. Wear a tank top if you are lucky enough to be in the mile high city and have tickets. Smoke some purple diesel for me.
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                                  • Big Bear
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-01-11
                                    • 43253

                                    #18
                                    Who is that dude on the Braves that throws a sinker? i believe he is a rookie...

                                    well he pitched a gem at coors with sinkers too
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                                    • 44 Mag
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 10-14-13
                                      • 34490

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                                      OK guys.

                                      Then back MORALES.

                                      While I claim my winnings on a team that is playing real ball.

                                      Nat's 8-4.
                                      I don't care who wins, 8-4 is still over 10.5 or 11. I think Nat's win though. BOL Pete Rose.
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                                      • 44 Mag
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 10-14-13
                                        • 34490

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                        LT Profits,

                                        Fister is a sinker baller. When Jordan Lyles had success pitching at Coors early this season it was the sinker ball that was his primary pitch.

                                        Fister will get contact but in the form of ground balls.

                                        97 degrees in Denver tonight. Wear a tank top if you are lucky enough to be in the mile high city and have tickets. Smoke some purple diesel for me.
                                        I thought Porcello from the Tigers last year was the sinkerballer ???
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                                        • MoneyIsWater
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-04-13
                                          • 1341

                                          #21
                                          Autocorrect on cellphone.

                                          I don't give a crap about using proper English on a sports forum with degens.

                                          BTW Rollin, you're a douche.
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                                          • DrStale
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-07-08
                                            • 9692

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                                            OK guys.

                                            Then back MORALES.

                                            While I claim my winnings on a team that is playing real ball.

                                            Nat's 8-4.
                                            Not the point. The point is the line has already factored in the pitcher's ERA, and you're discounting the effect of Colorado's atmosphere so you're actually working against yourself by making a bet based on faulty reasoning. Of course you could still win the bet but youre going to lose long term with this lack of logic.
                                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                            • Big Bear
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-01-11
                                              • 43253

                                              #23
                                              Porcello is too.

                                              They have similar styles both about 6 foot 10 and throw the sinker from a down hill plane.
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                                              • MoneyIsWater
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-04-13
                                                • 1341

                                                #24
                                                Lol.

                                                That's not my ONLY logic.

                                                Yes, it is not reputable to just say ERA. But Morales is pure trash.

                                                Hitters ball park or not.

                                                Rockies can't hit IN IT.

                                                40-58.

                                                Nats are playing for playoffs and are contenders WITH better hitters.

                                                Nats win 8-4.
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                                                • MoneyIsWater
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-04-13
                                                  • 1341

                                                  #25
                                                  Guys.

                                                  Nat's win 8-4.

                                                  Stop over thinking.

                                                  Good Lord.
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                                                  • RollinDo
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-04-13
                                                    • 13322

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                                                    Autocorrect on cellphone.

                                                    I don't give a crap about using proper English on a sports forum with degens.

                                                    BTW Rollin, you're a douche.
                                                    Thanks man. I was just messing with ya. Some people are way too serious on here! I figured it might be cell phone's fault and not yours. I have done that a time or 2.
                                                    Hey - no need for name calling...well, I can take THAT I guess.
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                                                    • RollinDo
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-04-13
                                                      • 13322

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                                                      Guys.

                                                      Nat's win 8-4.

                                                      Stop over thinking.

                                                      Good Lord.
                                                      Ok. You say 8-4 Nats. I will hold you to that exact score....cause mlb is that easy to predict.
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                                                      • MoneyIsWater
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-04-13
                                                        • 1341

                                                        #28
                                                        Nat's win 8-4

                                                        At least cover my bets lol.

                                                        Ml and RL.
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                                                          Lol.

                                                          That's not my ONLY logic.

                                                          Yes, it is not reputable to just say ERA. But Morales is pure trash.

                                                          Hitters ball park or not.

                                                          Rockies can't hit IN IT.

                                                          40-58.

                                                          Nats are playing for playoffs and are contenders WITH better hitters.

                                                          Nats win 8-4.
                                                          Rockies have the best home offense in the majors, batting .309 overall and averaging 5.72 runs per game.
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65684

                                                            #30
                                                            OK, OK, we get it.
                                                            One likes the Nats, the other likes the under.
                                                            Move on lol
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                                                            • RollinDo
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-04-13
                                                              • 13322

                                                              #31
                                                              So Money - you say you are a stats guy.
                                                              What statistically makes you see Morales is pure trash?
                                                              A 4.25 ERA at Coors this season and a lifetime 3.60 ERA there in 112 Innings is not all that bad.
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                                                              • RollinDo
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-04-13
                                                                • 13322

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                OK, OK, we get it.
                                                                One likes the Nats, the other likes the under.
                                                                Move on lol
                                                                I failed to mention I like both.
                                                                Maybe an 0-2 night for me in this game.
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                                                                • whtsox13
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-02-12
                                                                  • 1401

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Nat's RL was my 1st wager made this morning. Nash should I double it?
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                                                                  • MoneyIsWater
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-04-13
                                                                    • 1341

                                                                    #34
                                                                    They don't win.

                                                                    End of discussion.

                                                                    I don't care what MORALES has done.

                                                                    Look what he IS doing.

                                                                    The better team IS the nats.

                                                                    The better pitcher IS fisther.

                                                                    The team that wants it more....the nats.

                                                                    Better bullpens, the nats.


                                                                    The team that will win....you got it...
                                                                    The nats 8-4.
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                                                                    • DrStale
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-07-08
                                                                      • 9692

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MoneyIsWater
                                                                      Lol.

                                                                      That's not my ONLY logic.

                                                                      Yes, it is not reputable to just say ERA. But Morales is pure trash.

                                                                      Hitters ball park or not.

                                                                      Rockies can't hit IN IT.

                                                                      40-58.

                                                                      Nats are playing for playoffs and are contenders WITH better hitters.

                                                                      Nats win 8-4.
                                                                      Oh nevermind you looked at ERA AND their record. Youre a genius. Doesn't matter that the Rockies absolutely rake at home which completely undermines what you posted. Yeesh. Alright im done, that is unless youre looking for a bookie, in which case hit me up.
                                                                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                      If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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