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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #211
    Can you imagine if you just started investing as soon as the Fed was buying bonds??

    2008 until today

    Opportunity of a lifetime and most of us missed it
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    • Russian Rocket
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-02-12
      • 43910

      #212
      Originally posted by jjgold
      Can you imagine if you just started investing as soon as the Fed was buying bonds??

      2008 until today

      Opportunity of a lifetime and most of us missed it
      coach, there is no time to think about opportunities that we missed
      it's all about future moves that we'll make
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #213
        Rocket that's a great attitude I guess you cannot look back
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        • Ralphie Halves
          SBR MVP
          • 12-13-09
          • 4507

          #214
          Originally posted by brooks85
          no it won't.

          Buy the dip if you like money.



          It does mean nothing. US equities are far and away the number 1 place rich people around the world are placing their money.
          It definitely would have, but she was her usual self and sadly nothing really happened. Interest rates, and the hype behind them run pretty much everything.
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          • brooks85
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-05-09
            • 44709

            #215
            when interest rates gradually tik up the market might have it's first real correction, maybe. Other than that, it will be back breaking all time high's again. Buy banks also for when interest rates do go up.
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            • jarvol
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-13-10
              • 6074

              #216
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Sell 30 year treasuries
              Buy oil
              From Aug 6th.....lol you dumb bald fukk. How is this pair trade working out?
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              • Bostongambler
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-01-08
                • 35581

                #217
                Originally posted by jarvol
                From Aug 6th.....lol you dumb bald fukk. How is this pair trade working out?
                Hahahaha.... He has no clue.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #218
                  Originally posted by jarvol
                  From Aug 6th.....lol you dumb bald fukk. How is this pair trade working out?
                  Not a short term trade

                  Keep rolling and you will be fine

                  Losers have tight stops..one of worst trading strategies you could ever do

                  Keep it small no stops..if you like sell premiums against them..I can school anyone here with stock trading
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                  • jarvol
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-13-10
                    • 6074

                    #219
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Not a short term trade

                    Keep rolling and you will be fine

                    Losers have tight stops..one of worst trading strategies you could ever do

                    Keep it small no stops..if you like sell premiums against them..I can school anyone here with stock trading
                    No stops???? LOL you dumb baldfukk. You a master at stock trading? Then why are you a brokedick fukk?
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                    • winz
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-19-12
                      • 537

                      #220
                      took a shot and held a lot of feye over the weekend
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                      • Bostongambler
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                        • 02-01-08
                        • 35581

                        #221
                        Apple (aapl) approaching 102
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                        • Bostongambler
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-01-08
                          • 35581

                          #222
                          And straight through it.
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                          • DwightShrute
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-17-09
                            • 103422

                            #223
                            ya this will work out nicely at some point lol



                            <hgroup class="prevent_widows prevent_widows_initialized" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;">The Fed Poisons The Stock Market
                            The Fed has pumped trillions of dollars into the financial system since 2008. The unintended consequences of this bank bailout have spilled over into the markets. Fed money injections go directly into bonds, tending to push up their prices. Since interest rates move inversely to bond prices, the effect is to cut interest. After the 2008 crisis, the Fed pushed the ten-year Treasury yield down from 4 to 1.5 percent, though it’s bounced a bit from there.</hgroup>An artificially low interest rate is bad enough, as it hurts savers and retirees on a fixed income. However, a falling rate is deadly poison to business. This toxin operates by two different mechanisms.
                            Businesses constantly face a trade off between labor and capital equipment. Suppose Acme Corp. is considering buying an expensive new widget-making machine. Acme holds off because the monthly payment is too high. When the interest rate falls, then the payment fits its budget. Buying the tool and laying off workers increases the company’s profits. The first mechanism of falling rate toxin is layoffs across the economy.
                            Normally, replacing tedious and backbreaking work with machines is a good thing. It frees people for jobs that produce more and stress their bodies less. However, our Fed-distorted interest rate isn’t normal. Few new jobs are being created, and people aren’t freed for anything except unemployment. Thedestruction of labor is a human tragedy that deserves its own story.
                            High unemployment means weak consumer demand, and therefore soft prices, for the products made by Acme and other companies.
                            The Fed’s rate suppression has a second path of attack. Successful companies constantly look for opportunities with a return on investment (ROI) greater than their cost of capital—i.e. the interest rate. Lower interest rates perversely encourage them to chase smaller margins. Suppose the prevailing ROI is 5 percent but the interest rate is pushed down to 2.5 percent. Acme and many other companies are happy to borrow at 2.5 to expand, because they hope to make 5.
                            Normally, growing a business is a good thing because it offers new goods to consumers, and creates wealth for investors. However, when the Fed pushes down the rate of interest, the rate of profit tends to follow, with a variable lag. The end result is not wealth creation, but profit margin compression.
                            Shrinking margins are bad enough for new borrowers, who get less bang for their cheaper buck, but they’re deadly to old borrowers. The rate of profit can be pushed below the old borrowers’ original rate of interest. Then, a new competitor may drive them out of business.
                            Consider a restaurant, Sleepy Steak & Potatoes. Sleepy borrowed at 5 percent to build a nice store. What if their competitor, Hip Hotpot Fusion can borrow at 2.5 percent? Hip Hotpot builds a bigger place with taller ceilings and high-end finishes. Former Sleepy customers switch to Hip. This is churn—one business simply supplants another, creating little or no wealth.
                            Labor destruction, margin compression, and churn are the result of corporate decisions. Business executives are not stupid. The problem is that they must live or die in a Fed-distorted market. They have little choice. If they don’t seize an opportunity, then a competitor can. They’re forced to be like Olympic ski jumpers. If one skier is unwilling to risk life and limb and push it to the limit, he gets beat by the next athlete who is.
                            It’s pretty obvious that lower interest rates encourage more borrowing, and we’ve looked at two ways that each downtick incentivizes businesses to load up on more debt.
                            The effect on the stock market is not simple. Rising profits tend to push stocksup, but that’s not the whole story. Higher debt makes companies more dependent on credit market conditions, and lower profit margins make them more sensitive to consumer spending. Companies and their stock market valuations become brittle, vulnerable to small changes. Stocks can crash if credit stops flowing, like it did in 2008.
                            When the next heart attack strikes, the Fed deserves the full blame


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                            • Bostongambler
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                              • 02-01-08
                              • 35581

                              #224
                              edgarayala202 • 2 minutes 35 seconds ago
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                              LA TIMES: Anticipation over new Apple devices ---Something Else BIG Coming!
                              Already, tech watchers have pointed to Apple's decision to use the Flint Center — where Steve Jobs debuted the original Mac three decades ago — as a sign that Apple is planning to announce something major.

                              Up again
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #225
                                still holding strong

                                30 Year Treasuries keep going up
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                                • Bostongambler
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-01-08
                                  • 35581

                                  #226
                                  Sept 9

                                  I think u should get an Iwatch JJ
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                                  • Bostongambler
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                                    • 02-01-08
                                    • 35581

                                    #227
                                    Or maybe better yet, if they ever come out with an Irug
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                                    • Bostongambler
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-01-08
                                      • 35581

                                      #228
                                      Apple just crossed over 103 in pre-market
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                                      • brooks85
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 44709

                                        #229
                                        I didn't think the icloud leak would affect anything today.

                                        Definitely interested in what is going down the 9th. Seems like the most likely thing is they will show off their new i-watch and it will be for sale next year. But, I'm hoping they show off something else also like new ipad or tv.
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                                        • ItsMeMrMattE
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-30-10
                                          • 5294

                                          #230
                                          buy physical all the way down if trend continues.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #231
                                            just keeps going up

                                            short sells have lost everything they owned
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                                            • brooks85
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 44709

                                              #232
                                              no stopping any time soon.
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                                              • brooks85
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #233
                                                aapl dropping out of no where
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                                                • ItsMeMrMattE
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-30-10
                                                  • 5294

                                                  #234
                                                  $18 silver. i thought we would see it in August but it was a little late.
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                                                  • reddevil84
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 08-05-10
                                                    • 174

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                                    guys its already set to go down big probably some time after Alibaba IPO
                                                    maybe even the day after it.
                                                    Then next year when the crooks realize they can make more $ on the way down
                                                    it's going to absolutely rape the muppets who are told to stay in stocks by tv professional liars. The market will crash when they want it to and very few insiders know when.
                                                    It's all pre-programmed and if you are not in the inner circle of controlled knowledge
                                                    you will lose. Don't trust it. They can come up with a reason for anything up or down.
                                                    It's a giant scam. There is no way these stocks should be this high but
                                                    since the machines run everything there is no common sense anymore just greed
                                                    orgy until its over and everyone gets VD from the slime.
                                                    So the correction starts next week right? seems like we are due now, which news could still push the market higher coming weeks?
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #236
                                                      commodity all time lows
                                                      currencies all time lows
                                                      gold sinking

                                                      cannot go wrong buying all non usa currencies and commodities going forward
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                                                      • brooks85
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 44709

                                                        #237
                                                        who is getting some baba tomorrow? I look forward to tomorrow morning, going to be historic.


                                                        Also, got some disney jan 17 92.5 calls.
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                                                        • biggie12
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-30-05
                                                          • 13792

                                                          #238
                                                          [QUOTE=brooks85;22626731]who is getting some baba tomorrow? I look forward to tomorrow morning, going to be historic.


                                                          Also, got some disney jan 17 92.5 calls.[/QUOTE

                                                          first five digit stock investment going into ali.
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                                                          • brooks85
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 44709

                                                            #239
                                                            definitely a smart choice. It truly can't miss. I'm long on it, like putting my future kids through college type long.
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                                                            • ItsMeMrMattE
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-30-10
                                                              • 5294

                                                              #240
                                                              you will be able to get a better price on baba than what its about to open for. too much hype. definitely go long on it tho.
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                                                              • kidcudi92
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-14-11
                                                                • 15434

                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by ItsMeMrMattE
                                                                you will be able to get a better price on baba than what its about to open for. too much hype. definitely go long on it tho.
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                                                                • brooks85
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 44709

                                                                  #242
                                                                  no you won't. They call that missing the boat.
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                                                                  • kidcudi92
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-14-11
                                                                    • 15434

                                                                    #243
                                                                    facebook IPO retail get fukked hard if they were not in for the long haul. 38-40 straight to 20

                                                                    guessing many had stop losses in and have now lost money while stock it at 77
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                                                                    • brooks85
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 44709

                                                                      #244
                                                                      ok, so what's your point? That has nothing to do with this. Yes, I guess they are both IPOs. That is where the correlation ends though.
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                                                                      • grease lightnin
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-01-12
                                                                        • 16015

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                                        facebook IPO retail get fukked hard if they were not in for the long haul. 38-40 straight to 20

                                                                        guessing many had stop losses in and have now lost money while stock it at 77

                                                                        Retail always in for the long haul kid
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