Bookies seem to think France has a chance to beat Germany

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  • Vaughany
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    • 03-07-10
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    #36
    Pogba will run the show.
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    • plekz
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      #37
      Originally posted by THam12
      Not very. I will never put my money against messi. But Belgium has the talent to win, but their defense is Lacking.
      Belgium has way better defense then what Argentina has. Same goes for midfield. Only one even close to in form in Argentina right now is Messi. While Belgium has a large part of their team delivering.

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      As for this game, i do not really agree that Germany has the better team on paper currently, especially if you look to current form players are in. Hopefully France has Sakho back for friday aswell.

      Unless Hummels is better by friday Germany will be missing both him and Mustafi (injured) which means their defense would be under serious strain.
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      • smb26
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        • 06-05-14
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        #38
        Well there are many scenarios where each team loses. France could lose because of the following:
        1- playing Giroud as main Striker and putting Benzema on the side
        2- playing the Germany game where they get exhausted till the end then they get outplayed

        Germany could lose because of the following:
        1- playing Ozil and Gotze
        2- injuries concerns Hummels and Schweinsteiger
        3- not solving the issue of slow retreat of the Germans on counter attacks

        This game could go anyway, so the bookies are right to think that there is an equal chance for each team
        I will bet on this game on the first 10 minutes
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        • plekz
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          • 07-28-13
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          #39
          Hummels isn't injured, he has the flu. It's Mustafi who's injured and gone for the rest of the tournament. And i somehow doubt they play Giroud up top again, seeing how Griezmann and Valbuena performed. As for Ozil well they don't really have anyone else to put in his slot.
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          • pavyracer
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            • 04-12-07
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            #40
            Originally posted by jjgold
            In the quarterfinal round there are no clear-cut favorites and no surprises

            So many guys don't know the game of soccer like I do
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            • smb26
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              • 06-05-14
              • 136

              #41
              Originally posted by plekz
              Hummels isn't injured, he has the flu. It's Mustafi who's injured and gone for the rest of the tournament. And i somehow doubt they play Giroud up top again, seeing how Griezmann and Valbuena performed. As for Ozil well they don't really have anyone else to put in his slot.
              Yes I know but he was injured before (I think he was missing in US game) he got the flu, it makes me wonder if he is fit to play because he hasn't been practicing and playing
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              • plekz
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                #42
                Originally posted by smb26
                Yes I know but he was injured before (I think he was missing in US game) he got the flu, it makes me wonder if he is fit to play because he hasn't been practicing and playing
                Hummels have played EVERY game except the one against Algeria. And he missed that one because he caught the flu.
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                • cryptocap
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                  • 03-04-14
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                  #43
                  Ozil is shit...honestly what a garbage game he played and topped it off with a smashing finish...go position by postion and germany probably has an advantage wherever lahm will play and possibly neuer...but as we saw in the CL semis, ol manuel can be a sieve lol...otherwise id say france has a better team and a coach that as actually won something!
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                  • vasilli07
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                    • 05-08-11
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                    #44
                    A player winning a World Cup managing a team is not a good omen when playing Germany. Maradona's Argentina was thrashed 4-0 in the quarter-finals in the last WC. But I do agree that where Lahm plays in the next game will be a important factor. Play him at midfield, he will be bulldozed by Pogba and Matuidi. Play him at fullback, he will be more than a match for Valbuena or Griezmann.
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                    • plekz
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                      • 07-28-13
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                      #45
                      Unless Hummels is well Lahm will be in the back line.
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                      • smb26
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                        • 06-05-14
                        • 136

                        #46
                        Then I guess we can all agree that this will be decided after knowing the formation
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                        • packerd_00
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                          • 05-22-13
                          • 17845

                          #47
                          If you look at this knockout stage,Colombia was the only team that had real control over there opponent,the remainder of the matchups could have gone either way.
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                          • plekz
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by packerd_00
                            If you look at this knockout stage,Colombia was the only team that had real control over there opponent,the remainder of the matchups could have gone either way.
                            I'd disagree strongly on France vs Nigeria. Nigeria could hang until Giroud left the pitch and France upped their tempo, after that it was a wrap. And Colombia didn't look good at all in the last 20-25 of the 2nd half against Uruguay.

                            And Enyeama was the reason Nigeria stuck in that game for as long as they did.
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                            • packerd_00
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                              • 05-22-13
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                              #49
                              Yeah a suppose that's fair,it took quite awhile though, I was on France and I was worried there for abit,if that offside goal would have counted it could have been a much different sort of match.



                              You knew Colombia would break down Uruguay sooner or later,without Suarez they have no punch,we seen that against Costa Rica they had nothing for those guys.
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                              • swordsandtequila
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                                • 02-23-12
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                                #50
                                Game's a toss-up. Over on the corners is the bet.
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                                • plekz
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by packerd_00
                                  Yeah a suppose that's fair,it took quite awhile though, I was on France and I was worried there for abit,if that offside goal would have counted it could have been a much different sort of match.



                                  You knew Colombia would break down Uruguay sooner or later,without Suarez they have no punch,we seen that against Costa Rica they had nothing for those guys.
                                  Same could be said if Deschamps would have just left Giroud on the bench and let Benzema play where he likes to play, and the position he does the best work. I doubt Giroud will get anymore starts though considering how Griezmann has looked, and how Benzema looked as soon as Giroud left the pitch.
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                                  • Big Bear
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                                    • 11-01-11
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                                    #52
                                    The German Goalie Neur will be the difference.
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                                    • cankid
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                                      • 08-22-08
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                                      #53
                                      Im French and i think Germany takes it, took Germany to win in the pool, either way I ll be happy
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                                      • plekz
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                        The German Goalie Neur will be the difference.
                                        There are several teams out there that have made Neuer look very mortal. Ghana put in 2 on him.
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                                        • Big Bear
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                                          • 11-01-11
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                                          #55
                                          Does anybody know of a good parlay that involves all 4 games ?

                                          i'm all in already on Germany but i am thinking of making another deposit for more action.

                                          i'm looking to do a 4 leg parlay wih a nice payout
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                                          • packerd_00
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                                            • 05-22-13
                                            • 17845

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by plekz
                                            Same could be said if Deschamps would have just left Giroud on the bench and let Benzema play where he likes to play, and the position he does the best work. I doubt Giroud will get anymore starts though considering how Griezmann has looked, and how Benzema looked as soon as Giroud left the pitch.
                                            Your probably right I didnt see the game against Switzerland but I heard Benzema was pretty dominant in that game. I do think France can play with anyone when there offense is clicking.
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                                            • Pauulzcappin
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                                              • 04-23-10
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                                              #57
                                              It's very simple. If he starts Giroud and leaves Griezmann on the bench then Germany will probably win.

                                              Griezmann and Valbuena will create a lot of trouble attacking from the sides of the pitch. I think France pk and France to advance are the plays.
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                                              • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                • 01-01-09
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by THam12
                                                No moron. Wouldn't be surprised means it would not be some big upset.
                                                Its clear as day.
                                                Fukk off....I wasn't even talking shit at all

                                                Why would you say I wouldn't be surprised if it wouldn't be considered an upset to begin with?

                                                No shit you wouldn't be surprised, it's not a big upset

                                                "I wouldn't be surprised if the Seahawks get back to the playoffs" ......Doesn't work
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                                                • THam12
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                                                  • 03-12-13
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                  Fukk off....I wasn't even talking shit at all

                                                  Why would you say I wouldn't be surprised if it wouldn't be considered an upset to begin with?

                                                  No shit you wouldn't be surprised, it's not a big upset

                                                  "I wouldn't be surprised if the Seahawks get back to the playoffs" ......Doesn't work
                                                  Argentina considered one of favorites to win the whole thing since this beginning.
                                                  Id say people dont think belgium have a shot.

                                                  Only educated soccer folks knew anything about belgium before tournament (you and I as 2 of those).

                                                  That's why I couldn't help but laugh when people said USA would easily beat belgium.
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                                                  • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                    • 01-01-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by THam12
                                                    Argentina considered one of favorites to win the whole thing since this beginning.
                                                    Id say people dont think belgium have a shot.

                                                    Only educated soccer folks knew anything about belgium before tournament (you and I as 2 of those).

                                                    That's why I couldn't help but laugh when people said USA would easily beat belgium.
                                                    Fair enough man....All good
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                                                    • Jrod124
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                                                      • 10-31-09
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Vegas39
                                                      all of nothing is still nothing
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                                                      • Jrod124
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                                                        • 10-31-09
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by THam12
                                                        Argentina considered one of favorites to win the whole thing since this beginning.
                                                        Id say people dont think belgium have a shot.

                                                        Only educated soccer folks knew anything about belgium before tournament (you and I as 2 of those).

                                                        That's why I couldn't help but laugh when people said USA would easily beat belgium.
                                                        You have been acting like a real prick lately, what the hell is your problem?

                                                        Dug your college hoops plays, but this WC has you fired up for some reason
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                                                        • ACoochy
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                                                          • 08-19-09
                                                          • 13949

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by TwoWays
                                                          france has shown the best in this tournament so far.
                                                          Dont forget the columbians.

                                                          Disciplined and inform...Argentina will have a match on their hands there...
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                                                          • konck
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                                                            • 10-17-06
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                                                            #64
                                                            Hile Hitler
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                                                            • Scorpion
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                                                              • 09-04-05
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                              I'm not buying it.

                                                              Germany to advance -160 ALL IN.

                                                              FRANCE-too many black players (starters) on this team means mistakes

                                                              Im on Germany
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                                                              • THam12
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                                                                • 03-12-13
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Jrod124
                                                                You have been acting like a real prick lately, what the hell is your problem?

                                                                Dug your college hoops plays, but this WC has you fired up for some reason
                                                                Huge soccer fan.
                                                                Annoying fukks on this site have me pissed off (not moneyline).
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                                                                • addic3t
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                                                                  • 03-07-14
                                                                  • 369

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  In the quarterfinal round there are no clear-cut favorites and no surprises

                                                                  So many guys don't know the game of soccer like I do
                                                                  You are delusioning and mixed soccer with american fotball.
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                                                                  • broadway6
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                                                                    • 11-14-09
                                                                    • 13337

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    In the quarterfinal round there are no clear-cut favorites and no surprises

                                                                    So many guys don't know the game of soccer like I do

                                                                    the king has spoken.
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                                                                    • CWD
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                                                                      • 01-22-12
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                      Does anybody know of a good parlay that involves all 4 games ?

                                                                      i'm all in already on Germany but i am thinking of making another deposit for more action.

                                                                      i'm looking to do a 4 leg parlay wih a nice payout
                                                                      u want something tasty

                                                                      germany - argentina - brazil - holland all -1

                                                                      or even just 3 of them

                                                                      nice payout
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                                                                      • pavyracer
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                                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                                        • 82667

                                                                        #70
                                                                        The lines are the same as Costa Rica - Greece where Big Bear predicted Costa Rica was going to win easy in his ML parlay with Brazil, Germany and Argentina win. None won in regulation.
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