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  • MoneylineExpress
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    • 04-18-11
    • 1439

    #1
    Weak Champion
    NCAAB field was weak this year. UCONN would have been handled by many of the past champions. Kentucky was very talented, but had no business being in the championship game. Completely raw of a team with flaws and lacked chemistry. With so many players leaving early it's watering down the game.
  • THam12
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    • 03-12-13
    • 12640

    #2
    Kentucky backer?
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    • No coincidences
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      • 01-18-10
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      #3
      While I agree this was certainly a down year for college hoops and it's not the product it once was from a quality standpoint, you have to admit that beating the A-10, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten and SEC champion in successive fashion just to get to the national championship game is pretty damn impressive.
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      • beerman2619
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        • 12-24-09
        • 7752

        #4
        Field Was Weak Lmfao. Kentucky Backer Started This Post.
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        • bob6199
          SBR MVP
          • 02-10-14
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          #5
          yea i'm sure 15 years from now they will say how weak the field was... right...
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          • Luckycharms2012
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            • 10-07-12
            • 2422

            #6
            I had Unconn and under parlay, sad to see the season go......I've been sucking at baseball, gonna be a long summer.
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            • Albert Pujols
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              • 06-01-10
              • 1670

              #7
              No national title is a legitimate title. You play the tournament 10 times and you have 9 different winners. UConn was down 3 with 45 seconds to play in the 1st round and could have easily bowed out. But Napier hit a three and they won in OT and they won the tournament. It's just a tournament, and it's a lot of fun and they deserve a lot of credit for winning it. But it never has been a good indicator of anything, and besides, it's over and nobody cares anyway.
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
                • 30967

                #8
                This year had lots of parity which made it great IMO. Give UConn credit.
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                • THam12
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                  • 03-12-13
                  • 12640

                  #9
                  It only seems as if the field was weak because the "favorites" got outed early.
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                  • MoneylineExpress
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                    • 04-18-11
                    • 1439

                    #10
                    Originally posted by THam12
                    It only seems as if the field was weak because the "favorites" got outed early.
                    No. The #1 seeds were weak this year. Florida and Virginia have no NBA talent. Wichita St was good, but untested. Arizona was clear cut #1 until Ashley went down.
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                    • THam12
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                      • 03-12-13
                      • 12640

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                      No. The #1 seeds were weak this year. Florida and Virginia have no NBA talent. Wichita St was good, but untested. Arizona was clear cut #1 until Ashley went down.
                      No nba talent means absolutely nothing to college success.
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                      • MoneylineExpress
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-18-11
                        • 1439

                        #12
                        Originally posted by THam12
                        No nba talent means absolutely nothing to college success.
                        Bullshit. Every past champion since the turn of the century has had a future NBA player on it.
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                        • THam12
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                          • 03-12-13
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                          Bullshit. Every past champion since the turn of the century has had a future NBA player on it.
                          Dorian Finley smith.

                          Mich state has 3 nba players- out.
                          Wichita state has 1- out.
                          Kansas multiple- out.
                          Arizona multiple- out.
                          Michigan multiple- out.
                          Kentucky a million- lost.
                          Uconn 1.5?- champs.
                          Should I continue?
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                          • MoneylineExpress
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-18-11
                            • 1439

                            #14
                            You still failed to disapprove my point. The fact is that Virginia and Florida have no future NBA talent, which is rare of a #1 seed. 2013 Louisville, 2012 Kentucky, 2009 North Carolina, 2008 Kansas/Memphis, 2007/6 Florida teams would have crushed either one of the teams that played tonight. It was a rather weak championship game. All of these teams were loaded with talent, and had team chemistry, which Kentucky did not have the latter.
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                            • MoneylineExpress
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-18-11
                              • 1439

                              #15
                              Originally posted by THam12
                              Dorian Finley smith.

                              Mich state has 3 nba players- out.
                              Wichita state has 1- out.
                              Kansas multiple- out.
                              Arizona multiple- out.
                              Michigan multiple- out.
                              Kentucky a million- lost.
                              Uconn 1.5?- champs.
                              Should I continue?
                              Dorian Finley Smith is not on any of the mock draft projections.
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                              • THam12
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                                • 03-12-13
                                • 12640

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                                Dorian Finley Smith is not on any of the mock draft projections.
                                Hes young. Developments to come. I think he's nba worthy.
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                                • ZetaPsi808
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                                  • 09-18-08
                                  • 12119

                                  #17
                                  who cares?

                                  uconn deserved this title
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                                  • THam12
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                                    • 03-12-13
                                    • 12640

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                                    You still failed to disapprove my point. The fact is that Virginia and Florida have no future NBA talent, which is rare of a #1 seed. 2013 Louisville, 2012 Kentucky, 2009 North Carolina, 2008 Kansas/Memphis, 2007/6 Florida teams would have crushed either one of the teams that played tonight. It was a rather weak championship game. All of these teams were loaded with talent, and had team chemistry, which Kentucky did not have the latter.
                                    Dont know why you keep saying virginia.
                                    They were not a favorite to win. They were a 1 because they dominated acc.
                                    Michigan state and Louisville both favorites to make final 4, outed by teams tonight.
                                    You keep harping about nba, nba means nothing. You gain nba respect when your team makes a run. Example= deandre Daniels. His team makes a run in tourney and he plays GREAT, gains draft stock.

                                    The fact is, is that "nba talent" doesn't mean ncaa championship. Ncaa championship leads to nba draft respect. Get it?
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                                    • bob6199
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                                      • 02-10-14
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                                      #19
                                      NBA talent has nothing to do with college success, now i think i have heard it all...
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                                      • stevenash
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                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65625

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by bob6199
                                        NBA talent has nothing to do with college success, now i think i have heard it all...
                                        Which is why Kevin Ollie uses a lot of NBA pro aets, Kevin Ollie has that NBA mentality that has made him, after year 2, a big time NCAA coach. I disagree with the OP, but I respect hits knowlesge, this was far from a weak game.
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                                        • trevor123698
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                                          • 12-26-09
                                          • 1071

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by THam12
                                          Dorian Finley smith.

                                          Mich state has 3 nba players- out.
                                          Wichita state has 1- out.
                                          Kansas multiple- out.
                                          Arizona multiple- out.
                                          Michigan multiple- out.
                                          Kentucky a million- lost.
                                          Uconn 1.5?- champs.
                                          Should I continue?
                                          Wichita state has 2 first rounders and probably 3 in two years when van vleet comes out and makes it
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                                          • stevenash
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                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65625

                                            #22
                                            So I'm looking at the nbadraft.net site, they have, get this, Napier 24 overall going to Charlotte, and in 2015 they have Daniels, second round, 46 overall, going to, wait for it... Charlitte
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                                            • TheMoneyShot
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                                              • 02-14-07
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                                              #23
                                              Honestly... about 20 teams could of won this title game. Probably the largest margin ever in a NCAA tournament.

                                              UConn got hot... and pushed all the right buttons. Give them credit.
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                                              • Ballerholic
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                                                • 01-16-13
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                                                #24
                                                Uconn deserved it by getting here
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                                                • broadway6
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                                                  • 11-14-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Haters going to hate.
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                                                  • jjgold
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                                                    • 07-20-05
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                                                    #26
                                                    Uconn was the best team let's face it they handled most teams pretty easy despite the scores

                                                    The college basketball product is way down. Because kids are not staying in school

                                                    I don't think one Kentucky player is ready for the pros except Randall the rest will be absolute busts
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                                                    • Mitchell88
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                                                      • 12-16-12
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold;21593790[B
                                                      ]Uconn was the best team let's face it[/B] they handled most teams pretty easy despite the scores

                                                      The college basketball product is way down. Because kids are not staying in school

                                                      I don't think one Kentucky player is ready for the pros except Randall the rest will be absolute busts
                                                      at the time they were the best. Another poster said it they got hot. Not taking anything away from them they deserved it. I would say that this year was the right year for the billion dollar bracket. Very few picked UConn to go far in this tourney. This was a toss up year, UConn capitalized played great and deserves the credit.
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                                                      • jjgold
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                                                        • 07-20-05
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                                                        #28
                                                        They beat all really good teams very easy

                                                        They were the best team
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                                                        • THam12
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                                                          • 03-12-13
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bob6199
                                                          NBA talent has nothing to do with college success, now i think i have heard it all...
                                                          It doesnt.
                                                          Have you never seen college basketball?
                                                          A group of players getting hot in the ncaa tourney and making a run?
                                                          Do you realize that some guys dont even get looked at or hyped as an nba prospect until the tourney then BOOM they carry their team and they automatically have draft stock.
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                                                          • opie1988
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                                                            • 09-12-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                                                            You still failed to disapprove my point.
                                                            Uhhhh....I think he was fairly clear he was very "disapproving" of your point.
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                                                            • MoneylineExpress
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                                                              • 04-18-11
                                                              • 1439

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by opie1988
                                                              Uhhhh....I think he was fairly clear he was very "disapproving" of your point.
                                                              How was he? I said it was a weak year for #1 seeds because they lacked NBA talent. Other than Zona I thought the #1 seeds were weak compared to years past talent wise. I said every past champion since the turn of the century has had a future NBA player on it. Which is true. I said UCONN is a weak champion compared to years past, which is true.

                                                              Kentucky got to the championship game purely on talent. They have no chemistry whatsoever. They lack ball movement on offense. Looked like they grabbed a bunch of talented players, put em on the court, and just let them play pickup style. Their offense the entire tournament was iso, drive to the hoop, and have multiple players attack the rim with their size and athleticism.

                                                              Was a weak year with a bunch of 2nd tier level teams that could win it. No cream of the crop.
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                                                              • SamDiamond
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                                                                • 10-19-12
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                                                                Bullshit. Every past champion since the turn of the century has had a future NBA player on it.
                                                                And you don't think Connecticut has one NBA player on it's roster?

                                                                NBA talent on a roster has zero fuking predictive value in the NCAA tournament.

                                                                Do you really think the 1983 NC State team has 1/100th of the NBA talent that Houston had?

                                                                And Villanova? Do you think they had the same depth of talent the 1985 Georgetown team had?
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                                                                • MoneylineExpress
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-18-11
                                                                  • 1439

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SamDiamond
                                                                  And you don't think Connecticut has one NBA player on it's roster?

                                                                  NBA talent on a roster has zero fuking predictive value in the NCAA tournament.

                                                                  Do you really think the 1983 NC State team has 1/100th of the NBA talent that Houston had?

                                                                  And Villanova? Do you think they had the same depth of talent the 1985 Georgetown team had?
                                                                  Maybe you didn't read the part where I said, "Since the turn of the century" you dumb fuk. Maybe you need to go back to junior high to improve on your reading comprehension. The game has changed since then with the one and dones. You need NBA talent on your roster to win.

                                                                  UCONN has 1 potential player in Napier, and he carried this team like Kemba did a few years ago. How do you think Kentucky made it to the finals this year? They had the most NBA talent compared to anyone in the tournament, but they were raw as hell.
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                                                                  • jjgold
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                                                                    • 07-20-05
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    UCONN was one of best teams in years actually going by the teams they beat and rather easy
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                                                                    • stevenash
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                                                                      • 01-17-11
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                                                                      Maybe you didn't read the part where I said, "Since the turn of the century" you dumb fuk. Maybe you need to go back to junior high to improve on your reading comprehension. The game has changed since then with the one and dones. You need NBA talent on your roster to win.

                                                                      UCONN has 1 potential player in Napier, and he carried this team like Kemba did a few years ago. How do you think Kentucky made it to the finals this year? They had the most NBA talent compared to anyone in the tournament, but they were raw as hell.
                                                                      Daniels is a projected second rounder in 2015, Boatwright? Not sure if he gets drafted.

                                                                      I'm sensing a anti-UConn sentiment in you, Ollie might be the best coach in the NCAA to ready kids for the pros.
                                                                      Ollie knows how the NBA works, and he cut hit teeth on the knee of Jim Calhoun.
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