Why Does Izzo Have To Be Such A Bitch For?

[crustyme]

Yes it was more likely to hit coming from out of bounds, but it gives you overtime worst case scenario.....If they somehow hit after the miss you lose and become a goat in the history books

i'll take a desperation 70 footer over a well executed regulation 3 and risk of losing in ot anyday.

whats funny is if he had made the ft and virginia ties it and wins in ot, everyone would be saying they shoulda missed on purpose.

and if it had been msu +2 this thread wouldnt exist. just bunch of gamblers thinking with their wallets and not their heads.

[Thor4140]

Why do all these coaches decisions 99 percent of the time benefit the bookies?

[MiDNiTe]

because no one gives a shit to the coaching decisions that dont benefit the bookie i dont complain when i win, when i lose different story

[stevenash]

I highly doubt one of the greatest short-rest coaches in NCAA Tournament history will be taken aback by anything UConn does, but I guess we'll have to see.

One title in 20 years makes him great, how exactly?

[LT Profits]

One title in 20 years makes him great, how exactly?

Come on Nash, you know better than that. Izzo is probably the best college coach in the country right now and one of the best ever.

But with that said, I am on UConn +5.5.

[stevenash]

Come on Nash, you know better than that. Izzo is probably the best college coach in the country right now and one of the best ever.

But with that said, I am on UConn +5.5.

I love being a smart ass.

In time Kevin Ollie and Cuonzo will be mentioned in the same breath.

I started this thread two and half years ago.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1409043-cuonzo-martin.html

Back on topic:


With 1.1 seconds remaining in Michigan State’s Sweet 16 game versus Virginia, Spartan Gary Harris stepped to the line with his team leading 60-59. After he sunk a free throw to increase the margin to two, head coach Tom Izzo called a timeout.

Following the huddle, Harris stepped to the line and intentionally bricked his second shot. Virginia, out of timeouts, was forced to scramble for a three-quarter court heave. Justin Anderson’s prayer wasn’t answered and Michigan State advanced to the Elite Eight with a two-point victory. But was the call easy for Izzo, coaching in his 57th NCAA Tournament game?

“Well, I wanted it right away,” said Izzo after the game when asked about the intentional miss. “My assistants questioned it a little bit. I told them why: I still was relying more on an 80-foot shot than I was if they threw it. Yeah, you could foul the guy, but you never know how that’s going to be called and I wasn’t taking that chance. So I thought my best chance was an 80-foot shot and I guess it was.”
“That’s why we took the full timeout. Talked about it. It was great, it’s the way it should be.”

There has been plenty of debate about whether teams should intentionally foul up three at the end of games, but Izzo managed to avoid that conundrum. By having Harris miss the shot, Virginia was sent scrambling for a Hail Mary heave instead of setting up an inbounds play that would have allowed them to advance the ball further up the court without running any time off the clock. Even though it worked, Izzo’s assistants weren’t the only ones questioning the call in the huddle.

“Some of the players, couple of them, wanted to make it, some of them didn’t,” said Izzo with a smile. “It was kind of interesting.”

[Mitchell88]

Come on Nash, you know better than that. Izzo is probably the best college coach in the country right now and one of the best ever.

But with that said, I am on UConn +5.5.

Is that the play here? I think that the number is going to drop closer to game time. I will jump on Mich St then ML possibly. I think Mich St takes this one

[LT Profits]

Is that the play here? I think that the number is going to drop closer to game time. I will jump on Mich St then ML possibly. I think Mich St takes this one

I didn't say UConn is going to win (although upset would not shock me with the game at MSG). But I think 5.5 is too much.

[pavyracer]

True. I could of probably lived with that too. But put it in the officials hands to see if they call the foul or not. And... with a long full court pass... ball could of been tipped a few times and clock runs out.

It's cool... I just wanted to win for the hedge fund. I had MSU -2

I only bet ML's for dogs or favs between -150 and +150. These never push.

[pavyracer]

I didn't say UConn is going to win (although upset would not shock me with the game at MSG). But I think 5.5 is too much.

The refs will keep the game close for ratings. It looks like CBS is pulling the strings for Elite 8. I took the points in all 4 games.

[LT Profits]

I only bet ML's for dogs or favs between -150 and +150. These never push.

The refs will keep the game close for ratings. It looks like CBS is pulling the strings for Elite 8. I took the points in all 4 games.

So which is it?

Are you saying you went against your normal style because of CBS conspiracy?

[pavyracer]

So which is it?

Are you saying you went against your normal style because of CBS conspiracy?

I took the points with Dayton and UConn but bet the ML's with Wisconsin and Michigan.

[Albert Pujols]

I have rethought this over... not from a wagering standpoint but from a coaching standpoint.

You're up by 2 with your guy at the free throw line. Last free throw. He makes it... you're up by 3. A 3 pointer ties you. Doesn't beat you.

You tell your guy to intentionally miss a free throw when you know the other team only has time to take a 3 and... if that 3 goes... it beats you? Doesn't make any sense. Izzo did it for Vegas. I don't care what anyone says.

You clearly go up 3 with your best free throw guy at the line. You don't tell him to miss it.

If you look at the replay... after the miss... not saying it was the "best" look for a bomb... but let me put it this way... way to good of a look than even what Izzo anticipated. Still need a miracle. But coaching 101 teaches you.... if you're up by 1 point... you miss the free throw. If you're up by 2 points... you make the free throw. A 3 can only tie you... you can live with that. In this particular instance a 3 would of beat you. Like I said before... Izzo is a bitch.

This post is such complete bullshit and devoid of any logic.

[DrStale]

This post is such complete bullshit and devoid of any logic.

Wait...you're saying one of the greatest and most respected college basketball coaches of all-time WOULDN'T risk his entire career cuz "Vegas" told him to?

[pavyracer]

If there is less than 2 seconds on the clock and you are up by 2 you want to miss the free throw. It takes time to get the rebound and have your big guy make a pass to a shooter trying to nail a long three. If you make the free throw. You are giving the ball to a good passer to bring out of bounds and possibly make a good pass to a shooter to shoot that three.

[thetrinity]

if they were up 1 it was the correct move but not up 2, almost like he said he was afraid of ot.

[TheMoneyShot]

Back on topic:

With 1.1 seconds remaining in Michigan State’s Sweet 16 game versus Virginia, Spartan Gary Harris stepped to the line with his team leading 60-59. After he sunk a free throw to increase the margin to two, head coach Tom Izzo called a timeout.

Following the huddle, Harris stepped to the line and intentionally bricked his second shot. Virginia, out of timeouts, was forced to scramble for a three-quarter court heave. Justin Anderson’s prayer wasn’t answered and Michigan State advanced to the Elite Eight with a two-point victory. But was the call easy for Izzo, coaching in his 57th NCAA Tournament game?

“Well, I wanted it right away,” said Izzo after the game when asked about the intentional miss. “My assistants questioned it a little bit. I told them why: I still was relying more on an 80-foot shot than I was if they threw it. Yeah, you could foul the guy, but you never know how that’s going to be called and I wasn’t taking that chance. So I thought my best chance was an 80-foot shot and I guess it was.”
“That’s why we took the full timeout. Talked about it. It was great, it’s the way it should be.”

There has been plenty of debate about whether teams should intentionally foul up three at the end of games, but Izzo managed to avoid that conundrum. By having Harris miss the shot, Virginia was sent scrambling for a Hail Mary heave instead of setting up an inbounds play that would have allowed them to advance the ball further up the court without running any time off the clock. Even though it worked, Izzo’s assistants weren’t the only ones questioning the call in the huddle.

“Some of the players, couple of them, wanted to make it, some of them didn’t,” said Izzo with a smile. “It was kind of interesting.”

Well... I wanted it right away? Almost sounds like Izzo wanted him to miss both free throws?

I have rethought this over... not from a wagering standpoint but from a coaching standpoint.

You're up by 2 with your guy at the free throw line. Last free throw. He makes it... you're up by 3. A 3 pointer ties you. Doesn't beat you.

You tell your guy to intentionally miss a free throw when you know the other team only has time to take a 3 and... if that 3 goes... it beats you? Doesn't make any sense. Izzo did it for Vegas. I don't care what anyone says.

You clearly go up 3 with your best free throw guy at the line. You don't tell him to miss it.

If you look at the replay... after the miss... not saying it was the "best" look for a bomb... but let me put it this way... way to good of a look than even what Izzo anticipated. Still need a miracle. But coaching 101 teaches you.... if you're up by 1 point... you miss the free throw. If you're up by 2 points... you make the free throw. A 3 can only tie you... you can live with that. In this particular instance a 3 would of beat you. Like I said before... Izzo is a bitch.

This post is such complete bullshit and devoid of any logic.

Your response is flat out retarded.

Wait...you're saying one of the greatest and most respected college basketball coaches of all-time WOULDN'T risk his entire career cuz "Vegas" told him to?

If a coach wanted to help a line either way... his coaching career wouldn't be in jeopardy. It's a great backbone. All Izzo has to say... I made the decision to do what's best for the team in that situation. No one would be suspicious.

if they were up 1 it was the correct move but not up 2, almost like he said he was afraid of ot.

Trinity gets it. Clear math. And honestly... in my book it was an unlike Izzo move. I live in Michigan... I've watched several state games. Izzo always goes up by 3 so.... a 3 doesn't BEAT YOU. But maybe Izzo changed his coaching patterns for mysterious reasons? Yep, pressure does that to you at times.

I guess I should be grateful the kid hit the first free throw... otherwise this game was going to land right on 1. And a lot of people would of been pissed off.

[stevenash]

This is directed at everybody, Izzo's decisions have nothing to do with Vegas, point shaving, offshore, mafia, or anything else shady.
Get it, got it, good.
Izzo ain't going to blow his reputation, his career, his life, on anything gambling related, if one even thinks that, then one needs a mental checkup.

[stevenash]

Izzo got taken to school, and his kids are punks.
Buh-bye Sparty, punk ass overrated team

[No coincidences]

Izzo got taken to school, and his kids are punks.
Buh-bye Sparty, punk ass overrated team

Classy, nasher. I know if I were a UConn fan, that's the first thing that would come to mind -- to head to SBR and talk trash.

I thought you were better than this.

[stevenash]

Classy, nasher. I know if I were a UConn fan, that's the first thing that would come to mind -- to head to SBR and talk trash.

I thought you were better than this.

Lighten up Frances.
Sparty was dirty underneath all game, kids throwing elbows, and Izzo did get schooled, he could not solve the Connecticut's pressure defense.

[tony_come]

Izzo is the greatest coach

[tony_come]

Izzo ate the footlong

[No coincidences]

Lighten up Frances.
Sparty was dirty underneath all game, kids throwing elbows, and Izzo did get schooled, he could not solve the Connecticut's pressure defense.

Who threw elbows?

I didn't know Izzo played guard today. I'd say it's his guards that couldn't solve the pressure defense. They half-assed it the whole game and looked lost. It's up to the players to execute.

[stevenash]

Who threw elbows?

I didn't know Izzo played guard today. I'd say it's his guards that couldn't solve the pressure defense. They half-assed it the whole game and looked lost. It's up to the players to execute.

It was very chippy game, Izzo's job is to change the offensive sets.

[TheMoneyShot]

Izzo took it up the ass. I'm satisfied. You shaving prick.

[Albert Pujols]

Izzo took it up the ass. I'm satisfied. You shaving prick.

You seem like a fun dude to party with. But you're delusional here.

Izzo doesn't give a shit about spreads and missing it was the right move. End of story.

[No coincidences]

One title in 20 years makes him great, how exactly?

You've gotta be kidding me with this.

Six Final Fours eight regional finals and 12 Sweet 16 appearances since 1999 alone, and you're asking this question? I can't tell if your trolling or actually believing what you type.

[No coincidences]

It was very chippy game, Izzo's job is to change the offensive sets.

It was a very chippy game, agree, but you said MSU players were throwing elbows. I was just wondering who and where.

[No coincidences]

Izzo took it up the ass. I'm satisfied. You shaving prick.

Like nash, I can't tell if you're just trolling or actually serious about him "shaving points" in the UVA game.