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  • Ted Sheckler
    SBR MVP
    • 01-08-14
    • 1936

    #36
    Originally posted by ChalkyDog
    I don't like either of those to the Bulls. Neither of those guys play defense. Hood might have tried a few times this year. Kyle - nope. Not once. He had never, at any point in his life, attempted to lock his man up.

    Anderson also seriously thinks he's Magic reincarnate.

    The Bulls scouts look for very specific talent, and neither of these guys are on their radar. I almost guarantee it.


    Anderson can think he's Magic pt 2. He's not, he is good though. Can he guard the likes of Lebron/Melo? Nah. Would I rather have him or Dunleavy starting at the 3? Simple.
    Bring Dunleavy off the bench to provide more scoring. Or if D Rose does come back and is HEALTHY, we'll need guys like Dunleavy on the team to spot up for jumpers. Would much rather have Dunleavy paired with Rose than Anderson paired with Rose.

    But Anderson could be a nice guy to have come off the bench when Rose is out for his 10 minutes a game.

    I say Anderson would be a nice grab for the team and let thibadeou work his magic on him.
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    • ChalkyDog
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      • 10-02-11
      • 9598

      #37
      Originally posted by Chi_archie
      the Bulls scouts that wanted and got guys like Kyle Korver?
      Bulls didn't draft him, and Korver came in a filled a very specific need. You don't draft spot up shooters unless they're Ray Allen. You pick them up for pennies during free agency. They're as plentiful as combo guards.

      Based on the draft express mock, and my presumption they're looking to bolster the front court depth, as well as looking for a starting 2 to provide instant offense, and maybe get a backup for Rose, in order I'd rather have Payne, James Young and maybe TJ Warren.

      That said, Kyle is about as versatile as it gets. He's slower than shit, and not very imposing athletically. But he knows the game well, and has insane fundamentals. I just don't know how well that translates to the NBA, especially with his size.
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      • Big Bear
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        • 11-01-11
        • 43253

        #38
        Originally posted by jjgold
        White guys usually busts in nba

        NBA different than college so hard to compare.
        exactly. Hansborough is a bust too but he was good in college.

        the NBA is a league for blacks and europeans.
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        • Chi_archie
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          • 07-22-08
          • 63165

          #39
          Originally posted by ChalkyDog
          Bulls didn't draft him, and Korver came in a filled a very specific need. You don't draft spot up shooters unless they're Ray Allen. You pick them up for pennies during free agency. They're as plentiful as combo guards.

          Based on the draft express mock, and my presumption they're looking to bolster the front court depth, as well as looking for a starting 2 to provide instant offense, and maybe get a backup for Rose, in order I'd rather have Payne, James Young and maybe TJ Warren.

          That said, Kyle is about as versatile as it gets. He's slower than shit, and not very imposing athletically. But he knows the game well, and has insane fundamentals. I just don't know how well that translates to the NBA, especially with his size.

          Scouts are not just used for college players

          aren't free agents a bigger investment?

          if a team is willing to sign and play inferior talent like Boozer, Korver, Jimmer ect

          they'll take a flyer on 20 year olds that come cheaper and are still teachable
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          • NardVa
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            • 10-02-07
            • 8325

            #40
            NBA teams don't like to draft older players.They feel younger players have a higher ceiling. You draft a kid at 19 and in 5 years he's only 24. He has 5 years of NBA experience and probably another 11 years of playing if he leaves the NBA at 35. You draft a kid at 26 in 5 years he is 31 and already out the door at 35.
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            • Chi_archie
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              • 07-22-08
              • 63165

              #41
              Originally posted by NardVa
              NBA teams don't like to draft older players.They feel younger players have a higher ceiling. You draft a kid at 19 and in 5 years he's only 24. He has 5 years of NBA experience and probably another 11 years of playing if he leaves the NBA at 35. You draft a kid at 26 in 5 years he is 31 and already out the door at 35.
              great point!

              who is 26?
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              • Ted Sheckler
                SBR MVP
                • 01-08-14
                • 1936

                #42
                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                great point!

                who is 26?


                I thought Taj was old when the bulls got him and thought that was stupid...Looks like I'm the stupid one.
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                • NardVa
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-02-07
                  • 8325

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                  great point!

                  who is 26?
                  DeAndre Kane from Iowa St. There was talk about him earlier in the thread. He will actually will be 25 this year.
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63165

                    #44
                    Originally posted by NardVa
                    DeAndre Kane from Iowa St. There was talk about him earlier in the thread. He will actually will be 25 this year.

                    ah didn't know this!!!

                    who was the mental case that went high in the draft a few years back from iowa st?

                    he still isn't playing is he?
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                    • Big Bear
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                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #45
                      speaking of bust is Greg Oden out of the league again?

                      i heard he was making a come back again but havent heard anything about him.
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                      • Vegas39
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                        • 09-22-11
                        • 30686

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        speaking of bust is Greg Oden out of the league again?

                        i heard he was making a come back again but havent heard anything about him.
                        Your broke ass should buy a TV he played 15 mins Monday night
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                        • Ted Sheckler
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-08-14
                          • 1936

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                          ah didn't know this!!!

                          who was the mental case that went high in the draft a few years back from iowa st?

                          he still isn't playing is he?

                          Think he's actually signed to D-league team now and played a few games...
                          Royce something.

                          Scared of travelling...Shitty thing to screw you out of millions.
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                          • Vegas39
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                            • 09-22-11
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
                            Think he's actually signed to D-league team now and played a few games...
                            Royce something.

                            Scared of travelling...Shitty thing to screw you out of millions.

                            Royce White
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                            • Chi_archie
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                              • 07-22-08
                              • 63165

                              #49
                              also there was a high school kid drafted out of st. vincent-St. mary out of the akron area a few years back.

                              anyone know if he is playing anywhere?
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                              • Big Bear
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                                • 11-01-11
                                • 43253

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Vegas39
                                Your broke ass should buy a TV he played 15 mins Monday night
                                lol hopefully he stays healthy this time
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                                • Dan Kelly
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-19-11
                                  • 1332

                                  #51
                                  Tyler Ennis needs to talk to Donte Green - must be somebody knows both of em.

                                  BOL
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                                  • Cuse0323
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                                    • 12-09-09
                                    • 30169

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Dan Kelly
                                    Tyler Ennis needs to talk to Donte Green - must be somebody knows both of em.

                                    BOL
                                    Gotta point out that Donte had family and money issues while Ennis doesn't. Donte regretted it but thought he had to do it. Not taking a shot at you but he gets so much hate even from Cuse fans and he was a good dude.
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                                    • rm18
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                                      • 09-20-05
                                      • 22291

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by scholesy
                                      Are you serious? A white boy the best player in the country?? Gotta be fukkin kiddin me. He would get eaten alive in the Association.
                                      I think he is national player of the year obviously u have to draft the young guys over him that why u draft on talent can just.get someone in free ageny as good as kane or bairstow
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                                      • KRIT
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-11-14
                                        • 12874

                                        #54
                                        I don't get Kane at #50 either. My guess is his age and lack of explosiveness is why scouts are so low on him. Most of his scoring comes from him over-powering smaller guards, not sure if he will be able to do that at the next level. Regardless, I'd take a blind Kane over Aaron Craft any day.
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                                        • Rigbone
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 11-27-13
                                          • 62

                                          #55
                                          Kane should make it to the league one way or another. Somewhat unrelated, but I don't understand how nobody is giving a second look to Terran Petteway. Nebraska isn't great, but he has single-handedly taken over games this season.
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                                          • k13
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-16-10
                                            • 18053

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                                            They have the Bobcats projected to take Doug McDermit?????


                                            why the hell do the Bobcats keep drafting white players ?

                                            They all turn out to be bust.

                                            1st Adam Morrison -Bust
                                            2nd Cody Zeller- Bust
                                            3rd- Doug McDermit- def a bust
                                            Zeller is ok for the minutes he gets.

                                            MKG...bust
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                                            • mikeya2k
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-12-13
                                              • 2719

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by rm18
                                              All about potential Cameron Bairstow is the best player in the country and probably goes undrafted because he is almost 24
                                              Is that a joke
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                                              • No coincidences
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-18-10
                                                • 76300

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Rigbone
                                                Kane should make it to the league one way or another. Somewhat unrelated, but I don't understand how nobody is giving a second look to Terran Petteway. Nebraska isn't great, but he has single-handedly taken over games this season.
                                                Is Petteway going pro for sure? I don't think he's a senior this year.
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                                                • TwoWays
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                                                  • 03-24-10
                                                  • 13145

                                                  #59
                                                  who the fck is bairstow. i watched this guy play, the fck special about him?
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                                                  • TwoWays
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                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                    • 13145

                                                    #60
                                                    i watched pettaway play in nebraska's last game. guy can't get into the lane and seems like a high volume chucker.
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                                                    • No coincidences
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                                                      • 01-18-10
                                                      • 76300

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by TwoWays
                                                      i watched pettaway play in nebraska's last game. guy can't get into the lane and seems like a high volume chucker.
                                                      i.e., a vintage NBA player.
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                                                      • Deuce
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                                                        • 01-12-08
                                                        • 29843

                                                        #62
                                                        What is deal with stones first round pick? Why do they have McGary declaring even though he didn't play shit this year?
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                                                        • No coincidences
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                                                          • 01-18-10
                                                          • 76300

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Deuce
                                                          What is deal with stones first round pick? Why do they have McGary declaring even though he didn't play shit this year?
                                                          Who knows. I'm sure the Pistons will f\*\*k it up either way though.
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                                                          • k13
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                                                            • 07-16-10
                                                            • 18053

                                                            #64
                                                            Andrew Wiggins - Will he be selected #1 overall in the 2014 NBA Draft?
                                                            All wagers have action.
                                                            11:00p Yes -250 <input value="17555517" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Yes to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" type="checkbox">
                                                            No +170 <input value="17555518" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on No to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" type="checkbox">
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                                                            • No coincidences
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                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by k13
                                                              Andrew Wiggins - Will he be selected #1 overall in the 2014 NBA Draft?
                                                              All wagers have action.
                                                              11:00p Yes -250 <input value="17555517" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Yes to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" type="checkbox">
                                                              No +170 <input value="17555518" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on No to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" type="checkbox">
                                                              The idea that this kid is going to be some kind of franchise game changer is laughable.
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                                                              • KRIT
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                                                                • 01-11-14
                                                                • 12874

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by k13
                                                                Andrew Wiggins - Will he be selected #1 overall in the 2014 NBA Draft?
                                                                All wagers have action.
                                                                11:00p Yes -250 <input value="17555517" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Yes to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" type="checkbox">
                                                                No +170 <input value="17555518" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on No to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" type="checkbox">
                                                                I never bet props/futures like this, but if I did I think No at +170 has good value. Isn't it kind of a 3-way toss up for the #1 pick between Parker, Wiggins and Embid?
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                                                                • No coincidences
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                                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                                  • 76300

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by KRIT
                                                                  I never bet props/futures like this, but if I did I think No at +170 has good value. Isn't it kind of a 3-way toss up for the #1 pick between Parker, Wiggins and Embid?
                                                                  I'd personally take Parker over Wiggins, though I wouldn't expect either to save my franchise.

                                                                  Embiid's back would scare me. Wouldn't want to invest in a guy who is already dealing with back issues, even if they are somewhat benign right now.
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                                                                  • burmaldo
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                                                                    • 02-07-14
                                                                    • 221

                                                                    #68
                                                                    As a Bucks fan being from Milwaukee (stinks I know), I want either Parker or Exum. Preferably Exum though since its a PG lead and we dont have a PG. Plus Giannis and Henson need more time to develop so why not throw Exum in there as well.. The length of that roster would also be insane. Exum, Giannis, Middleton, Henson, Sanders, etc..
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                                                                    • El Nino
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                                                                      • 05-03-12
                                                                      • 18426

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Yes, Kane's size has been the issue. Working with Hoiberg in an NBA system will help his case. Also, he's appeared to have matured as well. All year the word is if he doesn't get drafted, he can make a good living overseas playing ball.
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                                                                      • thetrinity
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                                                                        • 01-25-11
                                                                        • 22430

                                                                        #70
                                                                        hard to take anything this mock draft says serious when they have shabazz napier going mid 2nd round.

                                                                        im starting to think this class is somewhat overrated tho, parker does shit against mercer team loses, wiggins does shit against stanford team loses, i really wasnt that impressed with wiggins this year at all, parker at least had some big moments. wiggins was being compared to lebron james before the season.
                                                                        Last edited by thetrinity; 04-03-14, 09:31 PM.
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