30 for 30 Requiem for the Big East

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  • InTheDrink
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    • 11-23-09
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    #1
    30 for 30 Requiem for the Big East
    Best single era in college sports history

    This was my favorite 30 for 30 ever

    Boeheim pitino Thompson Louie Rollie Calhoun obrien pj

    Unrale
  • opie1988
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    • 09-12-10
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    #2
    Gets no better than Mullin and Ewing with their tshirts under their jerseys.

    Good memories.
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    • InTheDrink
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      • 11-23-09
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      #3
      When Texas says it's the shit and it's the northeast then you know it's the shit



      Love the clips of these gueys fukkin brawling. No pussies allowed.
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      • t-wizzle
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        #4
        I really enjoyed this one.
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        • The Giant
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          #5
          When is it on again? I missed it.
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          • InTheDrink
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            • 11-23-09
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            #6
            Now on the deuce. 90 min left
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            • InTheDrink
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              • 11-23-09
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              #7
              Pearl Washington
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              • James D
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                #8
                My all time favorite college team SJU roster in 1985 . Chris mullin and mark Jackson on team but college player of year and best player is Walter berry 7 of the 8 leading scorer shot over 50% from the field. Four shot over 55%. As # 1 seed Lost to another #1 seed Georgetown in final four


                Check out the detailed 1984-85 St. John's (NY) Red Storm Roster and Stats for College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
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                • jtoler
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                  #9
                  DVRed it, watching it now, bringing back some good memories, I loved the old Big East, so many personalities.
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                  • mcdonae101
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                    #10
                    Thompson and boheim arguing is classic
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                    • InTheDrink
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                      • 11-23-09
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by James D
                      My all time favorite college team SJU roster in 1985 . Chris mullin and mark Jackson on team but college player of year and best player is Walter berry 7 of the 8 leading scorer shot over 50% from the field. Four shot over 55%. As # 1 seed Lost to another #1 seed Georgetown in final four


                      http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...s-ny/1985.html
                      Agreed on Walter berry

                      i remember hearing a story when he was on the spurs where he sat out of a practice and Alvin Robertson called him a pussy so he attacked Robertson with a knife after practice

                      of course Robertson turned out to be a complete scumbag so maybe he had it coming
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                      • James D
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by InTheDrink
                        Agreed on Walter berry

                        i remember hearing a story when he was on the spurs where he sat out of a practice and Alvin Robertson called him a pussy so he attacked Robertson with a knife after practice

                        of course Robertson turned out to be a complete scumbag so maybe he had it coming
                        Berry was a head case . Sad cause he was best player on team and the team included 2 NBA lock hall of famers
                        Even Shelton jones had skills but too much talent on team for him to develop
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                        • InTheDrink
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by James D
                          Berry was a head case . Sad cause he was best player on team and the team included 2 NBA lock hall of famers
                          Even Shelton jones had skills but too much talent on team for him to develop
                          shelton was a youngster on that team and i know he had his time as the leader of the team....amityville horror

                          willie glass was more of a role guey/third scoring option and i think he could have been a very good player on a lesser team
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                          • opie1988
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                            #14
                            This was the baddest dude of the entire Big East back in the day....


                            Michael Graham took shit from no one.
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                            • DOM-Ganador
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                              #15
                              Michael Graham. My recollection was he was a rent a thug, brought in to protect Patrick from getting into any nonsense.
                              I also think he was about 25 years old when he enrolled and finished with a Blutarsky GPA.
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                              • InTheDrink
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                                • 11-23-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by opie1988
                                This was the baddest dude of the entire Big East back in the day....


                                Michael Graham took shit from no one.
                                underrated guey after that ewing era on gtown was perry mcdonald

                                he was a golden gloves boxer and was a guard who played in the post

                                heard some stories that NOBODY fukked with him
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                                • InTheDrink
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                  Michael Graham. My recollection was he was a rent a thug, brought in to protect Patrick from getting into any nonsense.
                                  I also think he was about 25 years old when he enrolled and finished with a Blutarsky GPA.
                                  i heard from a semi reliable source that you could count on both hands the number of times pearl went to class

                                  and quite honestly i dont have a problem with that...the whole special demonstrated how much of an impact some of these gueys made at these schools and how much money they made for everyone....you better believe they were getting paid too
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                                  • bobby heenan
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                                    #18
                                    i was born in 1980...and grew up on big east hoops as a lifelong pc fan....always enjoyed going to see the friars against uconn in the early/mid 90s....also went to the ncaa tourney in providence in i think it was 88-89....saw a doubleheader of georgetown/nd and nc state vs iowa-which if i remember was like a triple ot game(lot of nba'ers....zo, dikembe, laphonso ellis, bj armstrong....guys like corchiani and monroe...charles smith)....georgetown was coming off a scare vs princeton i think which they won buy a point against the 16 seed where it was dikemebe or zo that blocked a last second shot attempt

                                    but one of my fave stories about john thompson....rayful edmond was a dc drug kingpin....pretty much the most feared man in the city....used to bring his entourage and sit courtside to alot of home games....he befriended 'zo and a couple of other players.....thompson invited him to his office....and apparently was pretty cordial....before he left i guess thompson told him if he didnt stay away from his guys there would be problems....and apparently edmond didnt cause any problems....i think some people were stunned thompson didnt face any reprecussions from it.....thats how much respect and clout he carried
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                                    • drunkenbeaver
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                                      #19
                                      The big east was great back then... 20 or 30 years ago. But for the past 10-15 years it's been the most over-hyped conference next to the big 10. I'm glad it's toast. I couldn't stand the espn big-east bias while there was better basketball (or as good) being played in other conferences.
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                                      • James D
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by drunkenbeaver
                                        The big east was great back then... 20 or 30 years ago. But for the past 10-15 years it's been the most over-hyped conference next to the big 10. I'm glad it's toast. I couldn't stand the espn big-east bias while there was better basketball (or as good) being played in other conferences.
                                        How can you say that last 10-15 years big east was down? Won 2 of last 3 titles and have most in last 11 years with four. Even more telling is the big east made four championship games in these 11 years and won all four. Big east was far from down. It was always top 2 and although many teams lost in early rounds, many others went deep or won it all.
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                                        • Cuse0323
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                                          • 12-09-09
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                                          #21
                                          wish I was born 10 years earlier to have been able to remember any of the early days. fck michael graham. wtf, he won 1 million on powerball in 2013, unreal.
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                                          • StatePenn
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                                            #22
                                            Some of the greatest days ever, but the Big East was doomed after Penn State was denied entry. Big East basketball / football from the late 80s and into the 90s could have looked like this if Joe Pa got his way - would have been great for football and basketball Mega Conference:

                                            Penn State - football
                                            Pitt - football
                                            Villanova
                                            Syracuse - football
                                            St John's
                                            Seton Hall
                                            Boston College - football
                                            UConn
                                            Providence
                                            Georgetown
                                            Temple - football
                                            West Virginia - football
                                            East Carolina - football
                                            Virginia Tech - football
                                            Miami - football
                                            Rutgers - football
                                            Florida State - football
                                            Louisville - football

                                            Greed and a lack of future vision killed the Big East.
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                                            • Cuse0323
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                                              #23
                                              crazy that penn state came down to one vote, whole landscape of college sports would be different right now
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                                              • milwaukee mike
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                                                #24
                                                "Greed and a lack of future vision killed the Big East."

                                                no, espn killed the big east. hyped up big east basketball, then when the big east wouldn't accept their terms on a new deal, espn (disney) got syracuse and pitt to leave and forced re-alignments all over the country.

                                                Boston College athletic director Gene DeFilippo on the subject of the ACC's decision to poach Syracuse and Pittsburgh from the Big East: "We always keep our television partners close to us. ... TV -- ESPN -- is the one who told us what to do."

                                                and espn will never tell that story...
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                                                • InTheDrink
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                                                  • 11-23-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                  "Greed and a lack of future vision killed the Big East."

                                                  no, espn killed the big east. hyped up big east basketball, then when the big east wouldn't accept their terms on a new deal, espn (disney) got syracuse and pitt to leave and forced re-alignments all over the country.

                                                  Boston College athletic director Gene DeFilippo on the subject of the ACC's decision to poach Syracuse and Pittsburgh from the Big East: "We always keep our television partners close to us. ... TV -- ESPN -- is the one who told us what to do."

                                                  and espn will never tell that story...
                                                  I guess you didn't watch it last night?

                                                  Mike Gorman took shots at espn and several comments were pretty clear about the tv contracts. Boeheims comments about football ruling the decision was pretty clear about what that was.
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                                                  • milwaukee mike
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                                    I guess you didn't watch it last night?

                                                    Mike Gorman took shots at espn and several comments were pretty clear about the tv contracts. Boeheims comments about football ruling the decision was pretty clear about what that was.
                                                    wow good to hear

                                                    my apologies, i haven't seen it yet, didn't expect espn to broadcast anything that wasn't 100% biased
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                                                    • Harry N. Lloyd
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by StatePenn
                                                      Some of the greatest days ever, but the Big East was doomed after Penn State was denied entry. Big East basketball / football from the late 80s and into the 90s could have looked like this if Joe Pa got his way - would have been great for football and basketball Mega Conference:

                                                      Penn State - football
                                                      Pitt - football
                                                      Villanova
                                                      Syracuse - football
                                                      St John's
                                                      Seton Hall
                                                      Boston College - football
                                                      UConn
                                                      Providence
                                                      Georgetown
                                                      Temple - football
                                                      West Virginia - football
                                                      East Carolina - football
                                                      Virginia Tech - football
                                                      Miami - football
                                                      Rutgers - football
                                                      Florida State - football
                                                      Louisville - football

                                                      Greed and a lack of future vision killed the Big East.
                                                      Gimme a friggin' break. The Nittany Lions were pathetic in hoops at that time. There's no way they could compete with G'town, Syracuse, Nova, etc. Besides it was football that did in the Big East. Oh yeah, and fck Jo Pa and those gutless pukes he called assistant coaches!
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                                                      • InTheDrink
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                                                        • 11-23-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                        wow good to hear

                                                        my apologies, i haven't seen it yet, didn't expect espn to broadcast anything that wasn't 100% biased
                                                        yeah i couldnt imagine you posting somethign completely out of your ass
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                                                        • thetrinity
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by James D
                                                          My all time favorite college team SJU roster in 1985 . Chris mullin and mark Jackson on team but college player of year and best player is Walter berry 7 of the 8 leading scorer shot over 50% from the field. Four shot over 55%. As # 1 seed Lost to another #1 seed Georgetown in final four


                                                          http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...s-ny/1985.html
                                                          ron rowan from that team lives in the same town as me, his kid verbaled to pitt for 2016 already.
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                                                          • James D
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by InTheDrink

                                                            shelton was a youngster on that team and i know he had his time as the leader of the team....amityville horror

                                                            willie glass was more of a role guey/third scoring option and i think he could have been a very good player on a lesser team
                                                            Willie Glass, absolutely was better then Shelton I totally forgot him. Ty very much bud.


                                                            Originally posted by thetrinity

                                                            ron rowan from that team lives in the same town as me, his kid verbaled to pitt for 2016 already.
                                                            Rowan shooting from the outside corner was a big problem for defenses , I will be rooting for his kid for sure.
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                                                            • cbiscuit
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                                                              #31
                                                              What a great thread here, great memories!
                                                              BC was my team back in mid 80's but I also loved StJohns Prov, and Villa, hated the Cuse and Gtown. Graham was an absolute thug as DOM already stated and should have been ejected from at least 5 or 6 games that I saw, not sure about games I didnt see. That was also the time the scrutiny really started on John Thompson and they quickly became the most controversial team in the NCAA.
                                                              I loved watching Walter Berry play... he made me laugh my ass off so often because he had the best F-U face ever when he would score a bucket, he would get back on defense and just scowl at the opponent's bench... great stuff. I forgot about Glass, he was great and often a one man gang. Didn't Bill Wenington show up a year or two after that group? Just thought about that as I'm typing this fwiw.
                                                              Everyone likes to talk up the Gtown/Nova Final, but week to week the action in conference was just as good, it just wasn't for the Championship but the intensity was there - teams just did not like one another for the most part.
                                                              BTW, I'm pissed off because I DVR'd, supposedly :Req for BigEast but damn thing is nowhere to be found. I started watching it last night but set it up to record, red light went on in box but cannot find fkng thing now!!!!!!!! Don't see it in guide so don't know when it is on next.
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                                                              • cbiscuit
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by The Giant
                                                                When is it on again? I missed it.
                                                                Tomorrow moring on ESPNU, not sure all get that on cable.

                                                                Wed = 3/19 @ 8:00 am EST
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                                                                • James D
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by James D
                                                                  My all time favorite college team SJU roster in 1985 . Chris mullin and mark Jackson on team but college player of year and best player is Walter berry 7 of the 8 leading scorer shot over 50% from the field. Four shot over 55%. As # 1 seed Lost to another #1 seed Georgetown in final four


                                                                  http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...s-ny/1985.html

                                                                  Had to bump this thread and my post. Went to get some chicken breast from the market and who do I see? Mark Jackson and his kids. I actually said something to him which I NEVER do to celebrities and shook his hand. Afterwards I was waiting for the lady at the deli counter, she was doing his order, and he said to me "what HS you go to?" And then we chatted for a few minutes till his food was ready. I have now said something to two celebrities ever and one was only because people were intensely harassing him at the table next to me at lunch and I said " Adam (sandler) how do you deal with that??? Sandler was real cool as well. The other was mark today, as the text above and the rest of my posts in this thread can confirm that team was special to me so I broke my rules. We talked about this very thread and because of a few posters here I remembered virtually the entire squad. He was like "those were the days " . I didn't realize he lived in my community he said they have a few days off so he was just with the family. Kids were real nice, wearing warriors shirts.



                                                                  I still could not ask for a picture, that's just so lame around here . So I snuck one LOL which is probably more lame but the deli lady I see 5x a week won't lose all respect for me!! She even said he is a real great guy and has sweet kids.
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                                                                  • romoney
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Grew up watching the BIG EAST as a kid..was born in 77 so when i was getting into sports this was the best thing around..I remember my childhood with all the people mentioned on REQUIEM on ESPN..what a great episode...reminds me why I love college hoops and sports in general..
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                                                                    • shopbar picks
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      30 for 30 all are really well done. Great thread
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