Dicky V Says Big Ten 3rd best Conference!
They regularly barely score 50+ and that's the winning team. What a joke Dicky rode the short bus.
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They regularly barely score 50+ and that's the winning team. What a joke Dicky rode the short bus. -
I agree with him. It's called defense. Believe it or not, some teams still play it.Comment -
The Big 12 may have more top teams, but the the Big 10, 1-11 on average is probably better than the Big 12.Comment -
I agree too
ACC
Big east
Big ten
Pac 10
Big 12
A10
SECComment -
I agree that the BIG 12 is the 3rd best.Comment -
True.Originally posted by tullamoreComment -
ACCOriginally posted by MJFtheGenius
Big East
Big 12
SEC
Pac 10
Big Ten
A10Comment -
Dicky V:
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Originally posted by smitch124Dicky V:
"And that's the bottom line", cause Dicky V said so.Comment -
SEC???? Dicky V. might be smokin weed but you're on crack.Comment -
These guys on Midnight Madness keep throwing 9 teams around for the Big Ten. Big Ten will not have 1 team in the Elite Eight. They will be lucky to have 1 playing the second weekend Sweet 16.Comment -
Give me even money on that prop?Comment -
The Big Ten has one pushover. The Big 12 has 4. The PAC-10 has 3 pushovers and the SEC is almost all pushovers.Comment -
'Midnight Madness' didn't even throw in the LSU/Auburn HIGHLIGHT, but gladly threw in Florida/Kentucky. Anyone, anyone? We were mentioned ZERO until the game changer BS. Same crap as this morning. Need anymore evidence that ESPN is a joke? They get worse and worse every year amongst every sport. SEC's 4 in IMMEDIATELY changes to 2 after Auburn takes care of business. Unbelievable. I'm glad Slive is a committee member. I'm sure he'll deny Auburn if they punk Florida/Arkansas in the quarters
But according to Joe 'Salvia' Lunardi, Auburn is at best the 5th best SEC team now no matter of records and wins down the stretch, and the realistically tied for 3rd best in the league team at 10-6 would have to WIN the SEC tournament to get in. Not the same for Florida, Lunardi? Yeah, thought so you fat, ugly terd. It's interesting that an SEC team this year and this year only has to go 13-6 to make the tournament, but Florida and Kentucky only had to go 10-7 or so. Like Oklahoma deserved to be in the national championship game in 2004 also 
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Auburn should probably get in. Florida and Kentucky definitely don't deserve it. Sending four from the SEC this year is a stretch. Nobody in that conference is very good.Comment -
South Carolina deserves it more than Auburn, however.Comment -
big 12?
Sec?
outside of oklahoma who is good in these conferences?
top 3 are
ACC/Big East
Big ten....
I don't know much about the pac-10 they might be better then the big east, but i'm not sureComment -
If you ask me, it's:
Big East
ACC
Big 10
Big 12
PAC 10
SEC
A 10Comment -
Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
looks good to me... I only really cap the top 3 you listed and a bit of big 12.... so I really don't know all that much....beyond them.
ACC and Big East are different animals... its hard to compare them. I go back and forth.... I prefer the Big East style of play over ACC though.Comment -
big 12 is better than big 10
come on people!Comment -
Kansas lost to
syracuse
umass
arizona
Mighigan state
Missiouri lost to
Illinois (by 16)
Xavier
K-state lost to
kentucky
iowa
oregon
Oklahoma State got slaughtered by
zaga
mighigan State
Washington
Texas lost to
notre dame
mighigan st
arkansas.....
texas does have some quality wins against good conferences...nova,ucla,wisconsin... texas could be a dangerous team
but there are your teams with a winning big 12 conf record....Comment -
The Big East is just far deeper in talented teams this year than the ACC. They have six teams that have a legitimate chance at making a run at the title. UNC is a dominant team but the talent drops fairly significantly when you get down to Clemson and Florida St. Not that they aren't solid teams, just not quite as good as Nova or Marquette.Comment -
oklahoma, Texas A & M, and maybe Texas are the only legit teams I see in this confernence... they are good teams i just don't see great chances of any elite 8 appearances out of the other teams thoughComment -
Who knows. We could see an all Big East Final Four...Comment -
Big East = Over rated Teams like Providence can't even beat Baylor. Nova can't beat Texas...
Every year we worship the Big East but they've won how many titles in the last 20 years??? Like 3, give me a break. The ACC will be up there with UNC and the SEC is going to surprise many.
Say what you want about the SEC but a team like lousy Arkansas beats Texas and OU decisively in the same week. A lousy UK squad should have beaten Louisville, Miss State blows out a #1 sun belt Western Kentucky, Florida beats the Pac 10 #1 Washington. This conference gets overlooked but somehow they manage to be right up there with the ACC with the most titles in the last 20 years and the most teams in the final four. Don't be surprised if this year the ACC and SEC once again represent. Every year except once in the last 20, one of these 2 conferences had someone in the final four. It's a pretty good bet that one of these 4 teams, UNC, Duke, LSU, UT, are going to be there. Not the same could be said of the Big East or Big10.Comment -
One team at best that's Pitt. Louisville is the second best but they aren't legit in my mind. I cant get over how they looked suspect against suspect teams in non-conference play. So did Nova, Marquette and so on.Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
Teams like Wake that looked great in non-conference. UNC looked great in non-conference. Pitt looked great all year. UConn is hurt or they would be there. I just gave you 3 final four teams. UNC, WAKE, PITT, and someone else that noone is taking serious. Finding the sleeper is the suspense.Comment -
why are we talking about the past here??? this is the biggest thing that big east bashers like to do...... but what happened 20 years ago or 4 years ago has little to do with 2009...
the reason that the big east of 2009 is so much better then the big 12 0f 2009 and the SEC of 2009 is talent...
last year most the the top players in the Big East were underclassmen in fact out of the 21 first and second team players in the 07-08 season... only 6 are not back this year.... plus all 5 honorable mentions are back...
so you have 20 of your top 26 players from 07-08 back... and they are great players
Pitt alone has 3 players that easily are top 5 at their positions in the nation
The Big east of today is different.... we have now seen a new era develop with a this year's senior class being the group that was freshmen in the newly aligned Big East...... I don't really care about 20 or 30 years ago... the big east and ACC of today dominate the college basketball scene...
but if you really wanna delve into history.... in the last 25 years a current big east team has won the NCAA title 6 times... that is 24% of the time...... not too shabbyComment -
for those that are counting.... and love storied histories... here is the breakdown last 25 year's ncaa titles
Big East -6
ACC -6
Sec -5
Big 10 -3
big 12 -2
pac 10 -2
MWC -1
last ten years?
Big East-3
ACC -3
Sec -2
Big ten -1
Big 12 -1Comment -
Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
you gotta be kidding me right? how many out of conference losses did you have to cherry pick through to find a few wins and SHOULD HAVE beatens? big 12 plays CUPCAKE CITY TEAMS!!!!
the fact is the big 12 teams in general (outside of tenn) have the biggest pussy non conf schedules ever... and 75% of the time they face a top 100 rpi team the get embarassed... the games you listed above you can say about ANY major conferences mid-low tier teams.... and the fact that half the "impressive wins" you mentioned came from the big 12 which i've already said is weak and over-rated... florida beating Wash is the only remotely impressive game listed....and it happened well over 100 days ago.
let's try to balance this out
Lsu strength of schedule 93
lost to utah BY 30 POINTS!!!!
lost to Texas A & M
lost to xavier by 10 AT HOME!!!
other then beating 16-13 wash st. LSU's best non conference game was beating 121 RPI Troy... most of the rest were in the bottom 50 of all of the ncaa
South Carolina sos 84
lost to CHARLESTON??
lost to clemson
beat Baylor
next best non-conf win was Citadel at RPI 165
Auburn sos 82
lost to #182 mercer
lost to dayton
lost to Northern Iowa?
lost to xavier
best non conf win #108 uva
next best #198 geo wash
FLORIDA SOS 91
lost to syracuse
lost to fsu
beat washington 11-25-08
next best non conf win 16-13 #97 NC state
Miss St.
lost to wash st
lost to texas tech
lost to 11-18 CHARLOTTE?
lost to cincy by 12
lost to # 183 San diego
best win W. Kentucky
next best win #101 Houston
Kentucky
lost to VMI?
lost to UNC by 19
lost to miami
lost to louisville
impressive win vs WVU by 11
next best win #77 K. state
Tenn good SoS at 3
lost to zaga by 9
lost to TEMPLE BY 16!!!
lost to kansas by 7
lost to zaga by 10 AT HOME!!!
lost to memphis by 2
Tenn won against g-town and marquette
Tenn gets respect in my opinion because they scheduled tough games.....and they only had two teams above 200 rpi.... all the above teams had close to 10 above 200 and close to half of that 10 over 300....
This is why they get overlooked MAC...they can't win out of conference games of medocre teams at a clip higher then 20%
let me know when a team in the big 12 other then Tenn has a SoS better then the lowest big east team....Comment -
you are a factoid today chiComment -
When Coach Knight left, it hurt the entire conference.Comment -
we can go thru every teams losses, from ul's early losses to minne and unlv, to unc's home loss to bc
fact is, big 12 is better than big 10
texas, kansas, tamu, mizzou are all better than anyone in the big ten except msu. the big ten isnt better than the a10 is it?Comment -
Chi_Archie - One thing your forgetting is that the SEC is a young league. It's easy to struggle the beginning of the year. The Big East is like the Big12 was in football. Overrated and will be exposed in the dance.
I didn't cherry pick through losses, I just remembered certain games which led me to think that the Big12 was overrated which you agree to as well. Based on the eyeball test, the ACC looks the best to me. I like UNC and Wake but Clemson and FSU could make a run IMO. These teams are very physical and athletic. I would not be surprised to see 2 ACC teams in the final four.
I like the SEC more than I like the Big East because they are more uptempo and have a good mix of offense and defense. The only knock is that they are young and improving but the Big East are older and not growing in my mind. Louisville seems to be the most improved but some of their blowout losses are puzzling/troubling. Pitt is solid but I see them struggling in the dance because there are several teams that can shut down Young, Blair or Fields. They are prone to turn the ball over and it will be their downfall. We shall see but I see them struggling to score at some point. Which leads me to UCONN, where will they get points from? AJ Price and that's about it. Without Dyson, UCONN aint going nowhere because they are a different team. Marquette is fraudulent, so is Syracuse, which leads me to Nova as the sleeper here. I think they have the best chance to make a run because of their guard play.
Now look at a team like Auburn and trust me, you don't want to play them right now. They are a veteran team but has been improving each game. They have multiple scorers and their defense is stout. LSU is a very similar team but struggles against teams with big men on occassion. Plus they can get in scoring droughts as well but overall this team flat out hustle. UT is hard to figure out. They look incredible at times than absolutely suck at other times. They have incredible athletes but are under achievers with low basketball IQs. But the last 3 games have been breakthroughs for that team. They are playing smarter and have learned how to go inside out. South Carolina and Florida (both on the bubble) are fraudulent and won't make a run unless they have some breaks in seeding. If they go up against physical teams with size they are both cooked but against equally sized teams they can pull out some wins.
I like UNC, Wake, FSU, Clemson, UT, LSU, Auburn, Nova and Pitt out of the 3 conferences. 4 ACC teams, 3 SEC and 2 Big East. I expect at least 2 teams from above to be in the Final Four.Comment -
I agree...Originally posted by ryanXL977
To me if I rank the conferences (based on how many teams can make it to the Final Four) I'd have...
ACC
SEC
Big12/ Big East equal to me
Big 10
Folks will disagree with me on the SEC but watch...Comment
