Thank You Bill Dozer

nikosgr · 09-24-06, 09:06 AM

What is the name of the book?

moses millsap · 09-24-06, 09:20 AM

Bill always helped me in the past with questions I'd email him when I was just starting out in the offshore industry. Doesn't surprise me at all

bigboydan · 09-24-06, 01:37 PM

Glad to hear Mr.Dozer resolved your problem bud.

magnavox · 09-24-06, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by nikosgr

What is the name of the book?

I guess one of SBT's.

pags11 · 09-25-06, 02:34 AM

adamo,

good to hear that Bill took care of this for you...now just keep your money in quality books and you'll be fine...

onlooker · 09-25-06, 02:37 AM

Again, good job Bill.

Good to hear you got your money Adamo.

Adamo · 09-25-06, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by pags11

adamo,

good to hear that Bill took care of this for you...now just keep your money in quality books and you'll be fine...

Hello pags11 and everyone,

Thanks guys. It was great to have someone like Bill. I feel much more comfortable dealing with books with this sort of back up.

I thought it was a quality book. Even now I still think it is. Not too sure if I should mention the name here. Perhaps BBD or Bill can answer this one for me

chano · 09-25-06, 08:22 AM

This forum is about exposing good and bad books. I can't believe we are hiding the name of the book. That is fucken bullshit. If they (the book) has attempted to screw the player. Then what kind of forum is this, if we hide the name of the book.Come on Bill Dozer, have some balls and tell us the name.

Adamo · 09-25-06, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by chano

This forum is about exposing good and bad books. I can't believe we are hiding the name of the book. That is fucken bullshit. If they (the book) has attempted to screw the player. Then what kind of forum is this, if we hide the name of the book.Come on Bill Dozer, have some balls and tell us the name.

Take it easy there. I just want to leave that to Bill. Bill never said anything yet. Bill has more than balls I think. Go Bill.

goldengoat · 09-25-06, 08:52 AM

good work bill

maybe not exposing the name was part of the deal

i'm sure there was a note made on their sbr review record though for ratings purposes

chano · 09-25-06, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by goldengoat

good work bill

maybe not exposing the name was part of the deal

i'm sure there was a note made on their sbr review record though for ratings purposes

"Good work Bill" You got to be kidding me.

If they did it once , be sure they will do it again. Sooner or later the player will get ******.

goldengoat · 09-25-06, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by chano

"Good work Bill" You got to be kidding me.

If they did it once , be sure they will do it again. Sooner or later the player will get ******.

dude bill got the guy his money that is the important thing\

i'm sure if you was in that guy's position you would not mind such a deal as long as you got paid

like i said one way or another it is going to be made note of

i don't know any of this for sure cause i have no inside info at all but that is how i can see it going down

chano · 09-25-06, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by goldengoat

dude bill got the guy his money that is the important thing\

i'm sure if you was in that guy's position you would not mind such a deal as long as you got paid

like i said one way or another it is going to be made note of

i don't know any of this for sure cause i have no inside info at all but that is how i can see it going down

The important thing here is that a book tried to screw a player, not that he got paid. There was an attempt by a book to **** a player.
Maybe you will be the next , and this time Bill cant get you the money. Would you like that ? There are no guarantees on this site. Do you see any money back guarantees from SBR? I am not shitting on anyone, I just feel we should know what is going on and where.

freebie · 09-25-06, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by goldengoat

dude bill got the guy his money that is the important thing\

i'm sure if you was in that guy's position you would not mind such a deal as long as you got paid

like i said one way or another it is going to be made note of

i don't know any of this for sure cause i have no inside info at all but that is how i can see it going down

Yes, Bill and SBR got the dude his money. Next thing you know, The book will have your money.

just expose the book to help others from falling into this same situation.

chano · 09-25-06, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by freebie

Yes, Bill and SBR got the dude his money. Next thing you know, The book will have your money.

just expose the book to help others from falling into this same situation.

Bump

r2d2 · 09-25-06, 02:05 PM

sorry to sound like a rookie, but what did Bill do that got your money back? Either way, cheers to you and bill

magnavox · 09-25-06, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Adamo

Bill has more than balls I think. Go Bill.

Yeah, go Bill, go!

isetcap · 09-25-06, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by r2d2

sorry to sound like a rookie, but what did Bill do that got your money back? Either way, cheers to you and bill

Bill calls up one of his contacts at the specific book and tells them that SBR is aware of a payment complaint by one of their players who happens to be a SBR user. The operations staff at the book in question become immensely fearful that their payment difficulties are about to be exposed on the most widely read and respected watchdog site in the industry, and they realize that they need to pay immediately instead of facing a situation where players shun them and they have to close down.

This is why everyone who uses this site should be thankful that SBR is a respectable organization in a shady industry. SBR does more to keep the books honest than any other entity I can think of. Thanks, Bill and everyone else who makes SBR what it is.

jjgold · 09-25-06, 04:48 PM

Thanks Billy

Bill Dozer · 09-25-06, 06:39 PM

You are welcome guys. Your support of SBR and our continuously growing audience is what gives SBR the ability to work for the player. Every piece of info or feedback helps SBR get stronger and gives the next slow-paid player a better chance.

The book was BetUSA.

Chuck Sims · 09-26-06, 12:42 AM

Thanks Bill Dozer for naming the sportsbook. Thats what this site is about. SBR will continue to grow as a respected site that players can look to for info on off-shore sportsbooks.

Just to give BetUSA a fair shake. Did they offer any explanation why they cancelled two wagers after they won, and closed the players account?

pags11 · 09-26-06, 04:42 AM

very well put isetcap...good job again bill...

aca · 09-26-06, 05:50 AM

Really, good job again!

Bill Dozer · 09-26-06, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Chuck Sims

Thanks Bill Dozer for naming the sportsbook. Thats what this site is about. SBR will continue to grow as a respected site that players can look to for info on off-shore sportsbooks.

Just to give BetUSA a fair shake. Did they offer any explanation why they cancelled two wagers after they won, and closed the players account?

We will always name the book unless the player requests we don't. The first priority is the player getting his money.

BetUSA uses SBT's accounting and CS. It's a turnkey setup. What will happen is that the player may be told he can't play at SBT-serviced books, or so they say. He might end up winning at another, such as BetUSA or Gambling.net.

BetUSA probably doesn't want me to say this because players may be more apt to take a shot but, they believe that if you book it, you pay it.

Even though these folks have been honorable since first rated by SBR, we recently downgraded them to B- due to the potential for Sportingbet to make bad initial decisions.

Sportingbet themselves, cleaned up some of their book's messes during our last visit and more issues are being reassessed. Getting things done there is challenging. It might take another visit.

Yoshi · 09-26-06, 09:07 AM

Good Job, SBR rules

pags11 · 09-26-06, 04:41 PM

Bill,

why do you think other sites out there let betusa advertise with them, especially since they have to have an idea that betusa isn't a great book?...

chano · 09-27-06, 04:26 AM

Sorry about the "Balls" comment. Looks like you have some.

Bill Dozer · 09-27-06, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by pags11

Bill,

why do you think other sites out there let betusa advertise with them, especially since they have to have an idea that betusa isn't a great book?...

but BetUSA is an improvement compared to the books on many of the gaming sites this time around. It's a decent book for people who know what to do when Sportingbet knocks em around. The problem is when SBT gets to make decisions on the accounts and BetUS Mgt/CS, which is supposed to see everything that comes through the email, doesn't see it.

BetUSA has gone far out of its way to pay players when all other SBT books weren't but they need to eliminate this liability. Either Sportingbet as a whole will fix the process or BetUSA will have to make sure they have a better alert system telling them that EFS is jacking with their player's balance.