Wichita State would be the weakest number 1 seed ever!

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  • will2survive
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-26-09
    • 8099

    #1
    Wichita State would be the weakest number 1 seed ever!
    Their degree of difficulty where opponents are concerned is a joke. So many non-number 1 seeds would beat them. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
  • ZetaPsi808
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-18-08
    • 12119

    #2
    Originally posted by will2survive
    Their degree of difficulty where opponents are concerned is a joke. So many non-number 1 seeds would beat them. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
    they wont get the #1 seed. i say #3 seed
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    • Cuse0323
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-09-09
      • 30169

      #3
      They wouldn't have the same record in a major conference, yes. This team is no joke though, they have a great shot to make a run. The FF last year wasn't a fluke and they're even better now.
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      • ChiLLx
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-24-11
        • 5412

        #4
        No the weakest 1 seed actually happened last year and Wichita State beat them.
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        • ChiLLx
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-24-11
          • 5412

          #5
          Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
          they wont get the #1 seed. i say #3 seed
          You can't be serious? The team just went 31-0.
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          • MiDNiTe
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-11-13
            • 7684

            #6
            i know their ranked num 2 in the nation how can they go to 3rd seed
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            • TwoWays
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-24-10
              • 13145

              #7
              it's a great story. and really u can't go undefeated without being darn good, which they are. any team that plays defense like they do will be a tough out, especially this year where the field is wide open.
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              • InTheDrink
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-23-09
                • 23983

                #8
                when you gueys start these threads do you even consider the fact that they made the final four last year?
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #9
                  They will be a #1 seed (as long as they don't lose in MVC Tournament), but this is a Sweet 16 team at BEST. As for weakest #1, as someone alluded to above, this has all the makings of Gonzaga last year, which Shockers beat in Round of 32.
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                  • AchillesTG
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-19-13
                    • 1648

                    #10
                    I believe they have a better Team than last year, which was not too shabby.

                    In 2013 Wichita State reached the Final Four of the NCAA Tournament, winning the West Regional with victories over the #1 team in the nation, Gonzaga, the #7 team in the country, Ohio State, the #20 team in the country, Pittsburgh, and La Salle, before losing to the tournament's top overall seed, Louisville.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Strong team although have to win conference tourney

                      not many teams in ncaa history go undefeated in regular season
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82839

                        #12
                        If you want to make things interesting put all 64 teams in a hat and draw the pairs. Then no one would complain about the seedings. It also gives a chance for the little guys who always get seeded #16.
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                        • InTheDrink
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-23-09
                          • 23983

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          If you want to make things interesting put all 64 teams in a hat and draw the pairs. Then no one would complain about the seedings. It also gives a chance for the little guys who always get seeded #16.
                          so the teams that have dominated all season wouldnt complain when they play each other in the first round
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                          • Dirty Sanchez
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-01-10
                            • 16031

                            #14
                            Originally posted by will2survive
                            Their degree of difficulty where opponents are concerned is a joke. So many non-number 1 seeds would beat them. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
                            This same team almost won the National Championship...there's a reason their 31-0...there's also a reason that the schools around them like Kansas, Kansas St, and Missouri won't play them in a non-conference game
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                            • seaborneq
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-08-06
                              • 22556

                              #15
                              If Wichita state is not one of the best teams based on the last two seasons work, then who is, Louisville?
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                              • Bet10Heinekens
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-10-13
                                • 10567

                                #16
                                You guys get caught up with the schedule,

                                look what 03-04 St. Joseph with Jameer Nelson and Delonte West did, undefeated regular, lost in the A-10 finals and still got #1 seed and made it to the Elite eight


                                like I said earlier in the year, this Shockers team is Final Four material, they present matchup problems for opposing teams with Baker and Early. Baker can post up vs smaller guards, while Early can stretch the defense with outside shooting for a power forward.
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                                • meader99
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-30-10
                                  • 4223

                                  #17
                                  WSU was one crappy call away from being in the Championship last year. They are a gritty team that sometimes wins ugly. They play the right way. Butler made back to back runs.....Why not WSU?
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                                  • Skin24
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-23-14
                                    • 1594

                                    #18
                                    I agree meader99 this team is for real. I wish I bet them ats every game this year I would be up more then just the 3K for basketball.

                                    They are going to make a run for the title trust me.
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                                    • RollinDo
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-04-13
                                      • 13322

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ChiLLx
                                      You can't be serious? The team just went 31-0.
                                      No kidding. If you've seen them play, you know how dangerous they are and how consistent they are night in and night out.
                                      They have proven they can beat the big boys last year in the Big Dance.
                                      They will be the toughest out in the tourney I believe...such poise and determination in this group.
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                                      • cala56
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-25-10
                                        • 4231

                                        #20
                                        Wsu beat Alabama on the road, st Louis on the road (very strong team), destroy BYU at home. Today is one of the best teams. They will reach final four.
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                                        • PaperTrail07
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 08-29-08
                                          • 20423

                                          #21
                                          agree
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                                          • PaperTrail07
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-29-08
                                            • 20423

                                            #22
                                            The Stl who just lost?
                                            Originally posted by cala56
                                            Wsu beat Alabama on the road, st Louis on the road (very strong team), destroy BYU at home. Today is one of the best teams. They will reach final four.
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                                            • cala56
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-25-10
                                              • 4231

                                              #23
                                              Ten of the last 12 programs to make the Final Four have had ATS records of .500 or better that season. Only Kentucky (16-22 ATS) in 2012 and VCU (18-21 ATS) in 2011 have had losing records against the spread and made a run to the Final Four.

                                              Wichita St. 21-6-1 Ats record.


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                                              • cala56
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-25-10
                                                • 4231

                                                #24
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                                                • konck
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-17-06
                                                  • 12554

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  If you want to make things interesting put all 64 teams in a hat and draw the pairs. Then no one would complain about the seedings. It also gives a chance for the little guys who always get seeded #16.
                                                  Yea an by random draw have maybe the 2 best teams face each other in rd one
                                                  Stupid post #50783 man think before you type please
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                                                  • You mad bro
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-15-12
                                                    • 16641

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by konck
                                                    Yea an by random draw have maybe the 2 best teams face each other in rd one
                                                    Stupid post #50783 man think before you type please


                                                    leave it to pavy to say something stupid
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                                                    • James D
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-03-13
                                                      • 2040

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                                      when you gueys start these threads do you even consider the fact that they made the final four last year?

                                                      Exactly.

                                                      They went to final four as a #9 seed. Beating Pitt/gonzaga/La Salle/ Ohio state before losing to eventual national champs.

                                                      So they graduated no one, beat a #1, #2, #8 and #13 seed. They then lost to louisville a #1 seed and eventual champ by 4 points, the closest game louisville had in the tournaments. How tough was louisville? Their average margin of victory for the tourney was 16 points and in the elite eight they crushed #2 duke 85-63.

                                                      They are a lock for a 1 seed if they sweep the board. They may even be the 2 seed overall.
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                                                      • Cuse0323
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 12-09-09
                                                        • 30169

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by cala56
                                                        Ten of the last 12 programs to make the Final Four have had ATS records of .500 or better that season. Only Kentucky (16-22 ATS) in 2012 and VCU (18-21 ATS) in 2011 have had losing records against the spread and made a run to the Final Four.

                                                        Wichita St. 21-6-1 Ats record.


                                                        You have Syracuse's ATS record handy?
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                                                        • James D
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-03-13
                                                          • 2040

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                          You have Syracuse's ATS record handy?
                                                          Cuse is 13-10-2
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                                                          • Cuse0323
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-09-09
                                                            • 30169

                                                            #30
                                                            Thanks, good enough. I like our chances still.
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                                                            • KiDBaZkiT
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-20-09
                                                              • 14962

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by will2survive
                                                              Their degree of difficulty where opponents are concerned is a joke. So many non-number 1 seeds would beat them. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
                                                              Your obviously clueless about this team. Wichita State going back to the final four.
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                                                              • Timmah2483
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-25-10
                                                                • 610

                                                                #32
                                                                Also, WSU is #1 ATS . they may have a sorry schedule but they are beating 14-18 pt spreads on the regular
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                                                                • James D
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-03-13
                                                                  • 2040

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Timmah2483
                                                                  Also, WSU is #1 ATS . they may have a sorry schedule but they are beating 14-18 pt spreads on the regular
                                                                  They do have a sorry schedule, conference is much weaker this year than last. But that doesn't change what this same group has done the last 13 months is very impressive.
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                                                                  • will2survive
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-26-09
                                                                    • 8099

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                                                    Your obviously clueless about this team. Wichita State going back to the final four.
                                                                    Not cluelsess. They're a great team, but that schedule is sub-par in comparison to the elite teams.
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                                                                    • InTheDrink
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-23-09
                                                                      • 23983

                                                                      #35
                                                                      ats means nothing when youre ranking teams

                                                                      cleveland state is 21-7 ats

                                                                      so theyre better than florida?
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