kentucky must be out of the big dance
losing at home as 17.5 point favorites to georgia was the dagger to this badly coached team. good luck in the nit. 
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I had Texas tech spread and half time line . That numbnut from Texas tech hit a 3 with 4 seconds left for no reason to put the second half OVER by one . I had the reverse. Oh well and screw kansas let's go MissouriComment -
Yeah. I don't see how Kentucky gets an at-large bid. There are a lot more deserving teams.Comment -
i think last year they got in but only because they're named kentucky. they didn't even deserve it just like this year.Comment -
moneyline was -2500... imagine having that! OUCH!Comment -
kentucky'll get in and get a higher seed than they deserve to bootComment -
They will win the SEC tournamentComment -
That's a possibility but not probable, LK1. You've got Vandy and Bama as other bubble teams in the SEC who will be scratching and clawing in the tournament to try to assure themselves a bid as well. It'll be a tough road. And they aren't exactly clutch under pressure.Comment -
Since when are Vandy and Bama bubble teams? Yeah, the NIT bubble. Bama isn't even on that. They will finish 5th in the west unless they win @ Tennessee.Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
I keep hearing this garbage with Florida and Kentucky even though they've been HORRIBLE down the stretch, arguably one of the 2 most important variables (only LSU and Auburn qualify for this variable) by the committee other than hype/tradition. I hear RPI and strength of schedule as reasons why Auburn is counted out EVEN if they beat LSU, even though both will be much improved. RPI should be somewhere around 64 going into the SEC tournament. They're saying beat LSU and make it to the finals IF that. Some are saying even that isn't good enough which is pathetic. Why is that retarded? Because these same morons have Florida and Kentucky firmly on the bubble but not Auburn. RPI and SOS? These morons are really contradicting themselves when they mention those 2 things. Florida's strength of schedule is a good 15 spots worse than Auburn's on most all ratings systems, they're a struggling team down the stretch not winning ANY games they have to, and have a worse conference record. Kentucky's RPI is now below Auburn's, SOS not much better at all, and have horrendous losses down the stretch.
So which is it for the media? How is Kentucky and Florida on the bubble but not Auburn? You know, the hottest team in the SEC after LSU losing last night, and no question if LSU loses to them Saturday. How can you keep the hottest team in the league the last 9 games with a 10-6 record out? They would have beaten both of the apparent #1 seeds down the stretch with Tenn looking good right now. All of it rides on beating LSU, but how in god's name is Florida and Kentucky a "play in game" by the media?Comment -
Kentucky gets in the big dance because they're Kentucky. Same as last year, they got connections.Comment -
I thought last year they got in because of their good conference schedule and just a little traditional bias. But this year? NO EFFIN WAY. They lost to Georgia at home, ESPN. Quit acting like that doesn't matter. A bubble team is measured on whether they can do well in the tournament and the way they've played at the end. 1 good OOC win early in the season each between Florida and Kentucky isn't enough to make up for their horrible runs down the stretch, losing badly to mediocre teams in the league. The same 'mediocre' teams Auburn's critics say their wins were against. So losing to these middle of the pack teams is better than beating them soundly home and away? There is only 2 teams in the SEC right now taking care of business and doing what they have to do. 3 if you count Tennessee the past 2 weeks. And Auburn would have beaten both of them in the last 9 games of the season if they win Saturday. Kentucky and Florida are a combined 1-5 against those two, not doing any of their damage in the last 10 games of the year.Comment -
South Carolina, Tenn, and LSU should be in. Somebody other than those three will win the SEC tourney that makes 4. That's all they will get this year. I think 2 will be around for the sweet 16 though.Comment -
UK unconsistent.....I'll unload un their opponentComment -
THEGREAT30, South Carolina ends their season with Georgia. Auburn and USC are pretty even when it comes to SOS (Auburn with the edge in most ratings systems) and SEC play, with Auburn the much hotter team. I don't see how you could take a 10-6 south carolina but not a 10-6 auburn, especially considering Auburn has the slightly better schedule. This isn't the same team that lost 3 straight close ones to UNI, Xavier, and Dayton. Not even close. South Carolina had 2 OOC games with opponents that have less than a 150 RPI. You can't say South Carolina is the only other lock when you compare the twoComment -
Auburn is legit and deserves a bid. Either UK or UF deserves a bid as well depending who wins this weekend. Both teams are trash this year but still better than half the 64 teams that get in. Everyone thinks the SEC is down this year but it's just a very young league. The SEC is going to show out in the tourney. Expect a big run by LSU and UT. One of these teams is going to make the final 4. The media loves the Big East and ACC. There not loving the SEC.Comment -
I like the way Auburn has been playing as of late and if they win against LSU Saturday or Sunday whenever they play they will put themselves in the convo for a bid probably only needing a win maybe two in the SEC tourney.Originally posted by JsmooveFTWComment -
UK (19-10) does not deserve a bid unless they win the tourny.
TENN (18-10) does not impress me, either.
If you're the SEC you want LSU (25-4) and/or FLR (21-8) in there.
Its all about money and how much volume a school can bring to the big dance.
The tougher conferences are going to get more teams in while the conferences with smaller schools (records like 21-7) get passed over.Comment -
Then an at-large Creighton is out over Florida just because they don't draw much in the seats? March madness is all about the cinderella surprise teams. That's what draws TV ratings at least, which means a helluva lot more than traveling fan support. Not watching a fading, undeserving Florida team you've seen play all year against a 6 or 7 seed. Florida has lost 5 of 7. You think people want to see that make the tournament? What about Kentucky who's lost 7 out of 10 and isn't a smidgen of the same team as the middle of the year and start of the SEC. I'm sure the TV ratings would take a huge hit if these 2 are left outOriginally posted by chrisharvard01
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I'm a Florida fan and we don't belong in the dance at this point. We are on a downward spiral. Now if we beat UK or make a run in the SECT. UT, Auburn and even UK are better teams.Originally posted by chrisharvard01Comment -
That's the basic idea. The NCAA wants "whats best for the NCAA", which does include revenue.Originally posted by JsmooveFTW
We are talking 347 D1 teams. This is not an easy task.
Be that as it may, the NCAA figures not many people want to see:
AMERICAN (21-7)
AL at BIRMINHAM (20-9)
NIAGARA (24-7)
ILL ST (22-8)
OLD DOMINION (20-9)
WEBER ST (20-8)
PORTLAND (18-11)
PORTLAND ST (20-9)
VERMONT (23-7)
W.KY (20-8)
GEORGE MASON (20-9) -had to throw in two CAA clubs
to name a few!!! how many of these teams will make the dance?
(note: neither confirming or denying any of these teams deserve a bid should they lose their respective tournys.
Nor to say any of them would or would not make it past the first round)
Thus, the NCAA is going to give (more) bids to the conferences and teams that have ultimately, "the bigger and better school".
The cinderella story exists mainly when a team claws its way through their division tourny to shock the world; not because the NCAA gives them a bid.
Wait and see how many Pac 10 teams get in!!!
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If Kentucky is now out of the Big Dance, then please alert the local authorities to have OnTheWhat put on a suicide watch!
only playing with you Onner! Winning the SEC tourney might not be that hard really!
MrMonkey
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LOL. My bad. Had six things going on at once when I was trying to post a response. What I meant to say is that Florida and Auburn will be trying to assure themselves a bid, while Vandy and Bama are popped-bubble teams that will be trying to get in through the tournament themselves. Honestly, I don't think Kentucky or Florida is deserving of an at-large. Neither team impresses me. In fact, the entire SEC is pretty weak. There isn't one powerhouse team in it this year. If anyone out of the bubbles in the SEC deserves an at-large, it's Auburn.Originally posted by JsmooveFTWComment -
I don't even think Auburn's on the bubble at the moment. Maybe if they beat LSU this weekend and do some damage in the SEC tourney, but as of now they're not even on the radar. Their non-conference schedule was a complete joke (303rd), and they're 1-4 against LSU, Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee and South Carolina.
Kentucky's clearly out at the moment. Same for Florida. South Carolina's still in pretty good shape, although they could have basically locked up a bid by beating the Vols tonight.
LSU and Tennessee obviously locks from the SEC.Comment -
I don't consider South Carolina a bubble team. I think they're in, rjt. I could be wrong though.Comment -
More than likely. I think they'd have to play themselves out to not secure a bid -- losing at UGA followed by an early exit in the SEC tourney. But a win tonight would have removed any doubt.Comment -
Yeah, definitely.Comment -
I agree that that's the national consensus after such a down 4-5 years for Auburn. Hard to get respect so they have to force it. Florida and South Carolina's OOC is worse though. Especially USC. The committee will have to look at how they lost their games. Only 1 game (meltdown @ Ole Miss) was one they shouldn't have won in the end. Had a ton of failed chances to take control of their losses late but couldn't hit shots or free throws.Originally posted by rjt721
The national consensus on Florida and Kentucky is they're not out, and whoever wins their matchup will be in. Sad but that seems what they're making of it. That same consensus is that Florida and Kentucky are firmer bubble teams than Auburn. How I have no idea. If the SEC is so 'down', shouldn't legit bubble teams pound through it, especially closer to the tournament? One will finish 8-8 after that game. I was hearing no 9-7 team out of the SEC this year had a chance. Now Kentucky and Florida at best will be that and it's all of a sudden okay?
Auburn lost to USC, KU, and Florida early in the SEC season, by not much at all. They blew a nice 1st half lead against USC and let them tie it up by halftime with horrible shooting and unforced turnovers. Played horrible but kept it close. Played improved against Kentucky and Florida but couldn't pull them out in the end. They hadn't grasped how to win those games yet. Games that had endless lead changes until the last 2 minutes that they should have won. Kentucky was also playing the best in the league then.
Auburn's defense and offense both have changed a lot. They have a great sense of what they need to do to win, and seemingly forgot how to lose. The refs @ the LSU game were abso-****ing-lutely pathetic, as seems to be the norm when Auburn doesn't play on TV. I haven't heard anyone say that this team was boring to watch either.
Just an FYI if they beat LSU. Auburn will get the winner of the Kentucky/Florida game in the quarters of the SEC tournament. East #3 vs Arkansas. So realistically it should indeed play itself out in the tournament. Here's hoping for a win against LSU
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Jesus my posts have been long.
Chrisharvard01, none of those teams will get an at-large aside from Western Kentucky and somehow George Mason with their puzzling good RPI. Those records aren't possible for an at-large in their respective conferences.
ODU is 20-9? Are you sure about that?Comment -
Yep. The OT victory over N.EASTRN last week put them at 20 wins.Originally posted by JsmooveFTW
Unfortunately, their CAA conf. record is only 12-6.Comment -
Nothing wrong with a long post my friend! The more info. the better! First year wagering so appreciate people's insight! Good luck!Originally posted by JsmooveFTW
MrMonkey
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I live in Lexington and there has been a run on black attire to wear this selection Sunday. The Governor is on the verge of calling out the National Guard. Our commonealth had over 100,000 homes lose power from an ice storm this winter, but now we're REALLY on the verge of a disaster.
Mr. Gillespie is officially on the hot seat and I don't see that changing this year with anything less than an unlikely auto bid from winning the SEC tourney. If they win at Gainesville they would be 9-7 and might have a chance if they made it to the conf tourney finals, but even then I don't see them getting an at-large bid without someone doing them a favor. The local radio call-in shows (both sports talk and general discussion) have been dominated by discontented fans since the Georgia game. Try as they may the hosts are unable to change the discussion topic. The callers just won't let them. Gillispie supporters are jumping off the wagon like a bunch of rats on a sinking ship.
What's really funny is that the at-large spot they lost after the Georgia game could very well go to Minnesota and the coach they ran off before Gillespie. Minny has won 20 including a neutral court victory over Kentucky's most hated rival-Louisville and "Traitor Rick". If the Fighting Tubbies take care of business at home against Michigan they will be 10-8 and around 5th place in the Big 10, which many rate as the third strongest conference this season behind the ACC & Big East.
Smith is a great coach and represented UK with dignity and class. He was an asset to the community. He's clearly done more after inheriting less at Minny than Gillespie in Lexington. I hope the Gophers make it to he final four this year.Comment
