Pinny cancels bad line the right way, DURING game

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  • Dark Horse
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-14-05
    • 13764

    #1
    Pinny cancels bad line the right way, DURING game
    I realized this was a bad line, so I played it small to see what would happen. The wager was cancelled with the game in progress, not afterwards as many books would prefer (I would have lost the wager, had it stood).

    Dear Sir,

    Please accept our apologies for the following: as stated in our Web-Site rules, we will not accept action with obvious, gross line errors or incorrect match-ups.

    For this reason we have cancelled your wager on Steelers +7 1/2 +570 2nd half for today.

    We apologize for the inconvenience.

    Regards,
  • moses millsap
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-05
    • 8289

    #2
    I've reported bad lines to them before and gotten nothing in return, but it's been different at other books that will credit me with a small amount $20 to $50 for pointing out bad lines to them.
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    • rolemand
      SBR MVP
      • 03-24-06
      • 1033

      #3
      Originally posted by OWNED
      I've reported bad lines to them before and gotten nothing in return, but it's been different at other books that will credit me with a small amount $20 to $50 for pointing out bad lines to them.
      bodog, greek and WWTS are good about that. I hate it when you report one and get nothing. It's like, why did I even bother taking the time. Even a thank you email would be something.

      I almost never bet them.
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      • isetcap
        SBR MVP
        • 12-16-05
        • 4006

        #4
        Originally posted by Dark Horse
        I realized this was a bad line, so I played it small to see what would happen. The wager was cancelled with the game in progress, not afterwards as many books would prefer (I would have lost the wager, had it stood).
        Be careful doing that DH. I've heard that is one of the very few things that can get your account closed at Pinnacle.
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        • moses millsap
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-25-05
          • 8289

          #5
          Originally posted by rolemand
          bodog, greek and WWTS are good about that. I hate it when you report one and get nothing. It's like, why did I even bother taking the time. Even a thank you email would be something.

          I almost never bet them.
          Pinnacle once told me that a line wasn't bad. I believe the over 10 was +121 and the over 10.5 was +126 for bases. LOL.
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          • DrSlamm
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-10-05
            • 577

            #6
            yeah i had that same experience owned.. the reverse line for U 10.5 however was -170
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            • Lucas
              SBR MVP
              • 12-20-05
              • 1062

              #7
              but the bugs at the 10 line were not in bettor´s favor, but in pinnacle´s... that was the difference
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              • Chuck Sims
                SBR MVP
                • 12-29-05
                • 3072

                #8
                Dark Horse, I can concur what isetcap says. Pinnacle does not take kindly to people betting obvious bad lines. They have closed accounts and thrown people out for doing this.
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                • JoshW
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 3431

                  #9
                  If bad line don't play it. If you like the book and they treat you well report it. If you want to stay on their good side report it. If is just in your nature to help out report it.

                  Agree, don't screw with Pinnacle. A couple times and they will just toss you if it becomes a pattern.
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                  • onlooker
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 36572

                    #10
                    I agree with everyone here about, not doing it. Small or large. A book like Pinnacle should be alerted to these lines. Just for the fact they arent into screwing you.

                    You wouldnt like if Pinnacle decided to just slow pay you a little bit, to see if they could get away with it.

                    Reward or not, report the bad lines. Thats just the way I feel.
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                    • Dark Horse
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-14-05
                      • 13764

                      #11
                      Reporting a bad line during the small window at halftime when I needed to get a bet down somewhere else? Errrr... Nah. Maybe if I had a personal relationship with Pinnacle, like some of you probably do.

                      FWIW, I never expected to get paid for this bet, and was just curious to see how Pinnacle would handle it. To their credit, they didn't wait until after the game to cancel the wager, which they could have cashed. The line, it turned out, wasn't so bad after all...

                      But thanks for the advice of not testing Pinny too much.
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                      • moses millsap
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-25-05
                        • 8289

                        #12
                        Originally posted by onlòóker
                        Reward or not, report the bad lines. Thats just the way I feel.
                        I do, was just mentioning it's always nice to get a little free cash no matter how small.
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                        • RickySteve
                          Restricted User
                          • 01-31-06
                          • 3415

                          #13
                          I got $50 from Pinnacle for reporting a bad line about a year ago.

                          I've also had them assure me that a +116/-110 line was perfectly valid. I maxed it and they paid.
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                          • pags11
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-18-05
                            • 12264

                            #14
                            really?...pinny gave you $50?...that's pretty cool as I've never heard of them doing that...
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                            • bigloser
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-19-06
                              • 787

                              #15
                              I used to report bad lines , not any more. I reported a couple of bad lines, one to Gameday one to Intertops. Both changed the lines neither of them even sent an email thanking me.
                              If they want help a little bit of courtesy wouldnt go amiss.
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                              • Dark Horse
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-14-05
                                • 13764

                                #16
                                I read here about reporting bad lines a while back, so I tried it out, instead of just betting the game. They told me the line was fine, and simultaneously changed it. Never again.
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                                • bigloser
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 07-19-06
                                  • 787

                                  #17
                                  I dont agree that this is the best way to cancel a bet . If it is not cancelled before the event starts it should stand. If the line is bad the book will be alerted in plenty of time by the weight of money on the bad line.
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                                  • Dark Horse
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-14-05
                                    • 13764

                                    #18
                                    It's in the rules. No argument there. Many books would have waited to see if they would win, and only cancel if they lost...
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                                    • bigloser
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-19-06
                                      • 787

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                      It's in the rules.
                                      Most books can justify anything with their rules , that doesnt make it right. Betsense have a rule that they can confiscate any balance in your account if you dont play there for 6 months. They took $1800 from me with this rule.
                                      The rules on bonus abuse and bad lines give most books the ability to do as they choose
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                                      • Dark Horse
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-14-05
                                        • 13764

                                        #20
                                        All I can say is that I knew the line was bad, and that the bet would be cancelled. It was just a little experiment to see how they operate. If I'd lost the money I wouldn't have cared either, because my real bet was on the Jags.
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                                        • moses millsap
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-25-05
                                          • 8289

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bigloser
                                          Most books can justify anything with their rules , that doesnt make it right. Betsense have a rule that they can confiscate any balance in your account if you dont play there for 6 months. They took $1800 from me with this rule.
                                          The rules on bonus abuse and bad lines give most books the ability to do as they choose
                                          Holy shit, did you ever try to recover that?
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                                          • Lucas
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-20-05
                                            • 1062

                                            #22
                                            "If a member's account remains unused for a period of twelve months, the company reserves the right to close the account and assume ownership of any and all outstanding balance left in the account."
                                            ...this is from A+ book, guess which one
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                                            • Dark Horse
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-14-05
                                              • 13764

                                              #23
                                              I don't wanna know... lol
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                                              • Lucas
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-20-05
                                                • 1062

                                                #24
                                                VIP... actually VIP "house rules" are down for me now, so the source is Betgameday, which has the same IMO.
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                                                • spliff
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-16-06
                                                  • 547

                                                  #25
                                                  Legendz gave me a $25 3 team parlay and sent me a very thankful email for reporting a line that was still up with 10 minutes left in the game. That was cool.
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                                                  • Chuck Sims
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-29-05
                                                    • 3072

                                                    #26
                                                    I notified Olympic when they had Hass at 70-1 to finish 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th in a golf tournament. Hass was leading the tournament going into the 4th round at the time. I received a personal thank you from Spiro. The top shelf books are not out to screw you. They have pro bettors betting into them. They treat you fair, you treat them fair.
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                                                    • moses millsap
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-25-05
                                                      • 8289

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Chuck Sims
                                                      I notified Olympic when they had Hass at 70-1 to finish 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th in a golf tournament. Hass was leading the tournament going into the 4th round at the time. I received a personal thank you from Spiro. The top shelf books are not out to screw you. They have pro bettors betting into them. They treat you fair, you treat them fair.
                                                      What was the correct line? I can't imagine 7-1 would be correct either.
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                                                      • bigloser
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 07-19-06
                                                        • 787

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by OWNED
                                                        Holy shit, did you ever try to recover that?
                                                        I posted on various forums. They really didnt care. After all it was in their rules.
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                                                        • sportsfreek
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 08-28-06
                                                          • 29

                                                          #29
                                                          If someone notifies a book of a bad line, I think it is just good customer service to give them something. A free $50 is worth more than them trying to go back and cancell all the wagers on the bad line.
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                                                          • beetman
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 05-31-06
                                                            • 220

                                                            #30
                                                            I once reported a bad line to VIP's live chat, when they'd flipflopped the favorite with the dog.. The clerk acted extremely confused as to what I was talking about, and basically dismissed me with a "we'll look into it," and they didn't bother changing their line for another 8 or 12 hours!

                                                            That was the last time I bothered reporting a bad line to them.
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