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  • Ghenghis Kahn
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 19734

    #36
    Originally posted by tto827
    What good does the 17 point teaser do him?

    If one fav wins one dog wins he gets absolutely assraped.

    Open an account at bovada to bet Florida state -280 (if Oklahoma wins)

    This part you should do asap:
    Open an account at betonline and bet Bama -650 (best line available where you're sure to get paid)

    As for the amounts, that's up to you. But I'd be sure to make at least $500 for making it this far.
    bama ain't losing to oklahoma and florida st. ain't losing by more than a td pal.

    thinking about it since he can't win both the teaser and the parlay, maybe 20 point teaser might be a better idea. then again, odds probably suck and taking mls for alabama and florida st. might be a better idea.
    Last edited by Ghenghis Kahn; 01-02-14, 01:09 AM.
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    • Slimpickens
      SBR MVP
      • 10-28-12
      • 2030

      #37
      Good luck Stax. Id definetly make sure you have some sort of hedge here. Unfortunately I think Bama is gonna roll. Big 12 not looking so hot in bowl games thus far.
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      • tb1984
        SBR MVP
        • 09-11-08
        • 3112

        #38
        Originally posted by STAX
        I'm pretty new to sports betting, and have a hedging question. I have a 6 team parlay for CFB bowl season. I took 6 underdogs MLs, for a long shot at a giant payout. Already hit Tex Tech (+420) and Nebraska (+285). Have Mich St (+200), C. Florida (+575), Oklahoma (+500), and Auburn (+220) left to go. 1 unit to pay out 7950 units. Do I hedge yet?
        Hope, I can get it right:

        5 x 4.2 + 5= 26 (Texas Tech)

        26 x 2.85 + 26 = 100.1 (Nebraska)

        100.1 x 2 + 100.1 = 300.3 (Mich st)

        300.3 x 5.75 + 300.3 = 2026.725 (C. Florida)

        So, right now, you have $2026 on Oklahoma and Auburn. If I were you and had this much money, I would put at least that much on Alabama ml.
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        • SteveKerrsJunk
          SBR MVP
          • 10-25-13
          • 2706

          #39
          Wow man! Way to go! Everyone was probably laughing at first but damn dude 4/4..you never know now!! Auburn could def beat Fla State..I'd be worried about Bama just murdering Oklahoma though. Hope I'm wrong. Good luck!
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          • STAX
            SBR MVP
            • 11-01-13
            • 3718

            #40
            thanks guys... yeah not feeling great about Oklahoma. I feel since Stoops has been talkin smack about the SEC all year he will treat this like a super bowl to back himself up. I think Oklahoma will be ready to play. Saban rumored to be thinking about the NFL, and its harder for Bama to get "up" for this game. Plus coming off a heartbreaker to Auburn, and no national title possible, and a long layoff, they may lay an egg. I got Oklahoma +500 and felt they had a 1/4ish chance to win.
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            • tto827
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-01-12
              • 9078

              #41
              It's late and I'm half asleep so I'm not going thru the math now.

              But how about an if bet starting with auburn, ending with Bama ML. And then just a straight bet on fsu ML to go along with it.

              Never done if bets before but seems like you might be able to avoid laying the -700 or so on Bama if fsu wins anyway.

              Basically trying to make it as of the easier to hedge game (auburn/fsu) is played first.


              ***quickly trying to work thru it, this doesn't seem to work like I thought it would, but someone with knowledge might be able to make it work.
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              • lakerboy
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-02-09
                • 94379

                #42
                Originally posted by seaborneq
                Don't make bets like this your go to move, you won't last long in this business like that.


                not everyone is a square
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                • STAX
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-01-13
                  • 3718

                  #43
                  Honestly, I don't think I have enough funds to make it worth it to hedge with two games left. If Oklahoma wins, then I surely put several K on FSU ML to ensure a 4 digit score.

                  No luck on a settlement, Carbon doesnt do it.

                  I have two other parlays as well...

                  2.75 to win 3100 (Tech, Mich St, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Auburn all MLs)

                  10.00 to win 1000 (Tex Tech, Oklahoma, Auburn all MLs)
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                  • seaborneq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-08-06
                    • 22556

                    #44
                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                    not everyone is a square
                    Tell him to make the same bet with the same odds the next 100 times, and tell me how it turns out. Everybody is already trying to turn water into wine now so that he can salvage 5 dollars. Betting 10K to save 5 dollars is absolutely idiotic everyday of the week.
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                    • STAX
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-01-13
                      • 3718

                      #45
                      Originally posted by seaborneq
                      Tell him to make the same bet with the same odds the next 100 times, and tell me how it turns out. Everybody is already trying to turn water into wine now so that he can salvage 5 dollars. Betting 10K to save 5 dollars is absolutely idiotic everyday of the week.
                      missing the point of hedging?
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                      • seaborneq
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-08-06
                        • 22556

                        #46
                        Originally posted by STAX
                        missing the point of hedging?
                        I made a 3 teamer bet today without hedging. Sometimes you just let it ride and live and die with the outcome. You don't have to hedge every bet especially a 5 dollar bet that is more lucky than good. Take out a 10k to cover a 5 dollar wager every time you are close to winning and see where you will end up at the end. The Strip in Vegas looks like it does because we lose more than we win, and we chase more than we hold. Good luck with your last two bets nonetheless. If you make risky long shot plays just ride and die with them.
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                        • STAX
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-01-13
                          • 3718

                          #47
                          If Oklahoma wins, I could almost gaurentee a 5 fig payout by hedging the FSU/AUB game... Its not just to save $5.00, it is to promise a big payout, thats why you hedge
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                          • STAX
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-01-13
                            • 3718

                            #48
                            If Oklahoma wins, and I bet 28K on FSU ML at -280, I am gaurenteed 10Kish reagardless of outcome, hence hedging
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                            • STAX
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-01-13
                              • 3718

                              #49
                              Not gonna lie, I dont have 28K to so this with.... my thread is more to get good hedging ideas and strats.... I will let it ride for one more game, if I hit that, Ill definately put a substantial amount on FSU ml. Ill likely put 2800 on FSU to win 1000. Then Im gtd 4 fig payday, and will still hit 35K if Auburn wins.
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                              • lakerboy
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #50
                                Originally posted by seaborneq
                                Tell him to make the same bet with the same odds the next 100 times, and tell me how it turns out. Everybody is already trying to turn water into wine now so that he can salvage 5 dollars. Betting 10K to save 5 dollars is absolutely idiotic everyday of the week.

                                get a hedge calculator and get back to me
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                                • STAX
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-01-13
                                  • 3718

                                  #51
                                  BTW, I think parlaying underdog MLs is the way to go this time of year. I hit a good one last week when I put down 10 units on Cardinals over Seahawks and Giants over Lions. Don't like any of the ML this week in the NFL at all though except for San Fran and they a favorite on the road (ugh).
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                                  • seaborneq
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-08-06
                                    • 22556

                                    #52
                                    I'll help Stax out by putting a substantial amount on my alma mater's ML. That will guarantee a Bama loss, then he will have something to work with.
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                                    • STAX
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-01-13
                                      • 3718

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by seaborneq
                                      I'll help Stax out by putting a substantial amount on my alma mater's ML. That will guarantee a Bama loss, then he will have something to work with.
                                      appreciate
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                                      • BigDeem5
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-26-11
                                        • 17191

                                        #54
                                        Do I need to bump my post. You lay a substantial amount (4 figs) on Bama ml
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                                        • VegasInsider
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-12-10
                                          • 14593

                                          #55
                                          Not gonna happen. Seems like he doesn't the funds to do it. Gonna have to let it ride and pray for the best. Advice useless at this point.

                                          However, if Oklahoma wins the don't just lay 2800/1000, that's idiotic. Now you're just giving money away. Also don't make a wager until you speak with Carbon. They might want out of the action too.
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                                          • STAX
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-01-13
                                            • 3718

                                            #56
                                            13) BET ID=43xxxxxxx
                                            Parlay (6 Teams) 12/23/13 05:31 ET
                                            bet 5.00 to win 38,913.88 Result: Pending
                                            Auburn
                                            FloridaSt
                                            01/06/14(20:35 ET)
                                            Auburn +220
                                            CFlorida 52
                                            Baylor 42
                                            01/01/14(20:55 ET)
                                            CFlorida +575
                                            MichiganSt 24
                                            Stanford 20
                                            01/01/14(17:15 ET)
                                            MichiganSt +200
                                            Nebraska 24
                                            Georgia 19
                                            01/01/14(12:10 ET)
                                            Nebraska +285
                                            Oklahoma
                                            Alabama
                                            01/02/14(20:30 ET)
                                            Oklahoma +500
                                            TexasTech 37
                                            ArizonaSt 23
                                            12/30/13(22:25 ET)
                                            TexasTech +420
                                            Lezzz go Oklahoma!!!
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                                            • The Giant
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-21-12
                                              • 21480

                                              #57
                                              How much money do you have to bet on the other side anyway?
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                                              • STAX
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-01-13
                                                • 3718

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by The Giant
                                                How much money do you have to bet on the other side anyway?
                                                more than I have to make it worth my while
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                                                • The Giant
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-21-12
                                                  • 21480

                                                  #59
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                                                  • VegasInsider
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-12-10
                                                    • 14593

                                                    #60
                                                    Might want to start thinking about Bama 2H as a mini hedge...
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                                                    • hoot29576
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 11-19-13
                                                      • 110

                                                      #61
                                                      Where are you located? If OK pulls this out you gotta do more than just $2800. Let me know and we can work out a deal. I have the funds.
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                                                      • steady hustlin
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-24-07
                                                        • 687

                                                        #62
                                                        You hedge when you need the money, otherwise you are just paying 2x juice.
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                                                        • hoot29576
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 11-19-13
                                                          • 110

                                                          #63
                                                          If OK wins you gotta hedge. You can win 38K if it hits. Nothing if not or you can bet 28k on Fsu and guarantee a win of 10K on either side. I think that's well worth the effort
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                                                          • nvrlose37
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-01-12
                                                            • 2730

                                                            #64
                                                            This is some sharp bowl play, big dogs this time of year looks great. But honestly you shouldn't hedge that much unless you seriously don't like your Auburn play all of a sudden. Go for it all or for a small consolation hedge if FSU wins.

                                                            Unless you really need the money or hate the risk but in that case, I doubt you would be gambling in the first place.
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                                                            • STAX
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-01-13
                                                              • 3718

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by nvrlose37
                                                              This is some sharp bowl play, big dogs this time of year looks great. But honestly you shouldn't hedge that much unless you seriously don't like your Auburn play all of a sudden. Go for it all or for a small consolation hedge if FSU wins.

                                                              Unless you really need the money or hate the risk but in that case, I doubt you would be gambling in the first place.
                                                              I had mentioned a $2800 bet on FSU to win 1k as a consolation. Pretty crazy... Also have these two parlays as well...

                                                              8) BET ID=43xxxxxx
                                                              Parlay (3 Teams) 12/23/13 05:34 ET
                                                              bet 10.00 to win 988.40 Result: Pending
                                                              Auburn
                                                              FloridaSt
                                                              01/06/14(20:35 ET)
                                                              Auburn +220
                                                              Oklahoma 31
                                                              Alabama 17
                                                              01/02/14(20:40 ET)
                                                              Oklahoma +500
                                                              TexasTech 37
                                                              ArizonaSt 23
                                                              12/30/13(22:25 ET)
                                                              TexasTech +420

                                                              7) BET ID=43xxxxxx
                                                              Parlay (5 Teams) 12/23/13 06:01 ET
                                                              bet 2.75 to win 3,168.42 Result: Pending
                                                              Auburn
                                                              FloridaSt
                                                              01/06/14(20:35 ET)
                                                              Auburn +220
                                                              MichiganSt 24
                                                              Stanford 20
                                                              01/01/14(17:15 ET)
                                                              MichiganSt +200
                                                              Nebraska 24
                                                              Georgia 19
                                                              01/01/14(12:10 ET)
                                                              Nebraska +285
                                                              Oklahoma 31
                                                              Alabama 17
                                                              01/02/14(20:40 ET)
                                                              Oklahoma +500
                                                              TexasTech 37
                                                              ArizonaSt 23
                                                              12/30/13(22:25 ET)
                                                              TexasTech +420
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                                                              • VegasInsider
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-12-10
                                                                • 14593

                                                                #66
                                                                Dude, if Oklahoma wins then you HAVE to get some more money down on FSU. How can you possibly let a $5 wager ride and leave $10K+ guaranteed on the table?!?!

                                                                For penetrate sakes, PM me. If you don't want to deal with it or don't have the funds JUST REACH OUT. I'll gladly take the hedge and give you your piece. Jesus. There is a way out of this and get FREE MONEY.

                                                                Considering you're playing $5 parlays and don't have the loaded funds to properly hedge, $10K is big.
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                                                                • STAX
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-01-13
                                                                  • 3718

                                                                  #67
                                                                  yeah ur right vegas, i will. i have some resources
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                                                                  • Dirty Sanchez
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-01-10
                                                                    • 16031

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Hopefully you're dealing with a reputable Sportsbook
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                                                                    • STAX
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-01-13
                                                                      • 3718

                                                                      #69
                                                                      carbon, im primarily a poker player
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                                                                      • The Giant
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-21-12
                                                                        • 21480

                                                                        #70
                                                                        This thread could take on legendary status if Oklahoma can finish Alabama off.

                                                                        I don't remember seeing anyone ever hitting (or coming close to hitting) a parlay at 8000-1 or so odds.
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