Saturday (5-1) - TOP PLAY: Celtics/Suns under 225

Panic · 02-22-09, 12:05 PM

Dangerous play. Suns scored 140 last game without Amare. They love this style of basketball. They ran Porter out of town and Nash can do his shit again. Garnett is a great defender and he's out. Who is gonna clog up the middle for the Celtics? Suns will get lay ups all day long.

james4512 · 02-22-09, 12:07 PM

yeah wish i didnt lose so badly yesterday or i would have played this. I do think the suns could put up 110 but that will still have the under hit with no problem

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Panic

Dangerous play. Suns scored 140 last game without Amare. They love this style of basketball. They ran Porter out of town and Nash can do his shit again. Garnett is a great defender and he's out. Who is gonna clog up the middle for the Celtics? Suns will get lay ups all day long.

So you are comparing the Celtic defense to the Clippers and Bobcat defense? First off, those teams don't have a defense and Garnett isn't the only good defensive player on the Celtics. Suns scored all those points on worthless teams. They have proven nothing other than running up the score on 2 teams that are a disgrace to even the NBA. I think the Suns fans find out today that the hoax is up, just too bad they couldn't schedule Clippers all season.

Panic · 02-22-09, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

So you are comparing the Celtic defense to the Clippers and Bobcat defense? First off, those teams don't have a defense and Garnett isn't the only good defensive player on the Celtics. Suns scored all those points on worthless teams. They have proven nothing other than running up the score on 2 teams that are a disgrace to even the NBA. I think the Suns fans find out today that the hoax is up, just too bad they couldn't schedule Clippers all season.

Instead, they fire their coach, start playing the run and gun again and you want to believe its a hoax. Go ahead and take the Under, buddy. Good luck.

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:27 PM

Panic, they played the worst teams in the NBA, I will believe if they can put up points today. Anyone can put up points against 2 teams who run up and down the court and don't put defensive pressure up at all. What have they proven by beating Clippers and Bobcats? What? You are saying they are this amazing team now that they beat up on and left their starters on the floor to run scores up. Congrads to them but you have to beat a team that is going to the playoffs before anyone is going to believe anything. Those teams play right into what the Suns want to do, what is going to happen today when they face a team that doesn't? That plays defense and that slows the pace? Maybe they are legit but sorry if I don't jump on the bus after the last couple of games which I think pretty much mean nothing

Mac4Lyfe · 02-22-09, 12:28 PM

I like the under as well. The C's will slow the game down and play half court.

Panic · 02-22-09, 12:31 PM

They've played both these teams earlier this season.

Against OKC, they scored 99 and 110
Against LA Clips, they scored 106 and 109

Why didnt they score 140 in those games?

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:33 PM

because both those teams still had hopes then

Panic · 02-22-09, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

because both those teams still had hopes then

lol. What? OKC was 3-28 the last time they played Phoenix when the Suns scored 110.

fearless · 02-22-09, 12:36 PM

The previous highest total for a Celtics game was Dec. 21 at the Knicks. The total was 209 and the Celtics won 124 - 105. The Celtics are capable of running and gunning with the best of 'em but 224 seems insane for a Celtics game.

Panic · 02-22-09, 12:40 PM

Look, I'm not saying the game cant go Under. 2 high scorers in Amare and Garnett are out. Celtics play defense. I get why players like it. But this is a different Suns team now. Porter was holding the reins back. Now they are free to run. That's why i said its a dangerous play. Still to early to know if they can do this against good competition. Thats why I wouldnt touch the total. Too many questionmarks. I dont like going into a bet blindfolded.

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:42 PM

done arguing with you, if you think they are going to post those numbers on the Celtics you got serious problems, there is a difference when you are shooting wide open 3's and layups all night long compared to have a hand in your face when you shoot those shots. That is what Suns are going to see today. Maybe they do get to that number but how many times do you see a number this high when probably the best defense in the NBA is on the court? I'll take it, there is a reason the line went down 3.5 points overnight

Mac4Lyfe · 02-22-09, 12:43 PM

It's all about tempo and I don't think Boston is going to let the Suns run and gun.

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:44 PM

not only that but shots will be contested, something the Suns didn't see at all the last 3 games during this high scoring affair. I don't even think they will win this game

Panic · 02-22-09, 12:45 PM

We'll know soon enough.

Dexter · 02-22-09, 12:46 PM

225 was the opening line - its been at 221.5 since well before your 11:40 post.

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

225 was the opening line - its been at 221.5 since well before your 11:40 post.

no shit, read my write up, I got this line last night, I tried to post it in my spreadsheet last night but SBR spreadsheet was not working

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:51 PM

Total under 225 -110 on Boston - Phoenix [Sun, Feb 22 2:30PM] [NBA]

Dexter · 02-22-09, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

no shit, read my write up, I got this line last night, I tried to post it in my spreadsheet last night but SBR spreadsheet was not working

great middle opportunity for you if you layed a nice amount on the under 225.

Dexter · 02-22-09, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

Total under 225 -110 on Boston - Phoenix [Sun, Feb 22 2:30PM] [NBA]

we believe you - relax..lol

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 12:57 PM

Dexter, even if you didn't I don't really care, I would take 221.5 because IMO I seriously think that number isn't going to be threatened.

hunt3rtheone · 02-22-09, 01:04 PM

I think Boston will win this one..they need this one and Suns who is suns they maked 3 good games and now..this means they can beat lakers..boston..clevland .. yeah i think suns will beat all 3 ..come onnnnn wake up guys.. the bookies posted -2 for suns..you guys looked oo my godd -2? this is very good very easyy you watch last 3 suns games..o my god this is a gift.. 142 points and winning margin by double digit and triple digit..ooo this is a gift -2 vs boston.. come onnn dont you guys see Boston will win ..tought match but in the end i see a 2-4 points Boston win !

Agree? Who is Suns? Who is Boston? who is no 1 here? Boston away record 20-8 Suns at home 16-10 ..wtf man.. Boston win here
Hunt3r

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 01:06 PM

i don't care, i am on the total, Suns could win by 20 or Boston could route the Suns again as long as their total doesn't eclipse 225

ryanXL977 · 02-22-09, 01:09 PM

suns are going to run the whole game, so you are saying that either

a: boston cant keep up and get over 100 or so
or b: suns will miss their shots

is this correct? i havent read any posts in this thread so maybe you already stated it

hunt3rtheone · 02-22-09, 01:09 PM

yeah ..you are on under..and the bookies as well they put this one 221,5 just to send u guys a gift.. when you will see 110 suns vs 115 boston fill drive u crazy f...k the over.under..this one bet Boston win or + 1,5Boston

hunt3rtheone · 02-22-09, 01:10 PM

or you will see extra time and will drive u crazy with your under

Dexter · 02-22-09, 01:11 PM

yeah, i have a sick feeling this game ends within that 221-225 range.

Panic · 02-22-09, 01:12 PM

Hope it hits 226

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 01:19 PM

If it goes over it goes over, never said that this was the lock, but I will tell you that if I can get a total this high in a Celtic game I am going to be on the under. Celtics have a good way of imposing their will on other teams. We have seen it time and time again. If Suns score 120 today then they deserve the praise but do not be suprised when they only muster 92 points

ryanXL977 · 02-22-09, 01:23 PM

you have to keep in mind they arent the celts without kg, they are a 40 win team

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 01:23 PM

should have done this also when I was getting the best price but addin on the spreadsheet:

Celts/Suns under 111.5 (1H)

Well good luck no matter what team or side you are on, should be an adventure today I am heading to eat lunch with the fam. Panic we shall soon see who is correct in this matter.

unde0087 · 02-22-09, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

you have to keep in mind they arent the celts without kg, they are a 40 win team

Ya, I realize this but I don't care if they win.

I love how everyone is acting like Suns are going to put up these unbelievable numbers for the rest of the season. They just broke a record for the most points scored in this little stretch of theirs. Just because KG is gone doesn't mean the Celtics can't play defense and any defense at all is more than Suns have seen in the previous 3 games.

ryanXL977 · 02-22-09, 01:30 PM

suns suck ass
major ass
however, these aint the celts without kg is all im saying
i realize unde is talking over/under not wins, but kg is pretty much the best interior defender in the nba so i think the suns are worth an extra 10 pts without him

plus they are gonna run the whole season
they should get 120 today

Dexter · 02-22-09, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

Ya, I realize this but I don't care if they win.

I love how everyone is acting like Suns are going to put up these unbelievable numbers for the rest of the season. They just broke a record for the most points scored in this little stretch of theirs. Just because KG is gone doesn't mean the Celtics can't play defense and any defense at all is more than Suns have seen in the previous 3 games.

-hes not talking about if they win - not having kg affects the celts defensively big time.

-no one is thinking the suns will drop 140 on boston - but the celts should be able to roll up 115-120 on their own. while the suns can still get "only" 110 and hit the over.