Why do books refuse to offer half moneylines?

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  • fearless
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    • 08-14-06
    • 4950

    #1
    Why do books refuse to offer half moneylines?
    I'm talking about first half and second half moneylines. Bookmaker and many other books don't have this option.

    Why? What's the reasoning?
  • j0hnnyv
    SBR MVP
    • 01-06-09
    • 3620

    #2
    cuz their a joke. greek and 5dimes give u that and it should be mandatory on every book.

    ones that dont are skirred
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    • Shortstop
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 01-02-09
      • 27281

      #3
      Fearless,

      Open an account at The Greek and tell them Shorty sent you.
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      • fearless
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        • 08-14-06
        • 4950

        #4
        Originally posted by Shortstop
        Fearless,

        Open an account at The Greek and tell them Shorty sent you.


        The only problem is that I can't money to many books.
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        • j0hnnyv
          SBR MVP
          • 01-06-09
          • 3620

          #5
          What do you mean? greek takes ****/** all access ******** reloadable cards. works fine. also you can use moneygram/western union.
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          • fearless
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            • 08-14-06
            • 4950

            #6
            Originally posted by j0hnnyv
            What do you mean? greek takes ****/** all access ******** reloadable cards. works fine. also you can use moneygram/western union.
            I'll take a look at it. Thanks.
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            • pico
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              • 04-05-07
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              #7
              still waiting for your third pick.
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              • rowdy08
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-15-09
                • 559

                #8
                Used to play bookmaker great but the greek.....
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                • fearless
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                  • 08-14-06
                  • 4950

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pico
                  still waiting for your third pick.
                  It'll be a barn burner before it's over.
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                  • Arilou
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 07-16-06
                    • 475

                    #10
                    They're not popular because... they're not popular. The vast majority of guys almost never bet them, so the books don't want to risk making a mathematical error just to have the lines look pretty. So yes, in a way they're scared, but in another they're just being prudent and letting the big boys handle the MLs.
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                    • fearless
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                      • 08-14-06
                      • 4950

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Arilou
                      They're not popular because... they're not popular. The vast majority of guys almost never bet them, so the books don't want to risk making a mathematical error just to have the lines look pretty. So yes, in a way they're scared, but in another they're just being prudent and letting the big boys handle the MLs.
                      I don't buy that explanation. Everybody knows that a one point favorite is -120, a two point favorite is -140, a three point favorite is -150, the books could write a program for that math.

                      Plus, some of the big boys do put up these moneylines (pinnacle, greek) and others do not (bookmaker/cris). Your explanation makes sense but I think it's something else.
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                      • durito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-03-06
                        • 13173

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fearless
                        I don't buy that explanation. Everybody knows that a one point favorite is -120, a two point favorite is -140, a three point favorite is -150, the books could write a program for that math.
                        what
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                        • fearless
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                          • 08-14-06
                          • 4950

                          #13
                          Originally posted by durito
                          what
                          I don't get it either.
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                          • Matt Rain
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-13-07
                            • 5001

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fearless
                            I don't buy that explanation. Everybody knows that a one point favorite is -120, a two point favorite is -140, a three point favorite is -150, the books could write a program for that math.
                            There is no *direct* correlation between MLs and pointspreads (in other words, in a mature market, a given PS will not always have the same price on the ML), at least not at the bigger books. It is my understanding that bookies like CRIS and Greek throw something on the wall and hope it sticks, but money will shape both markets separately as it comes in.

                            That said, smaller books may move lines manually (or on air, by copying CRIS/Greek/Pinny.)

                            In that sense, I believe that Arilou's explanation is right - smaller, moving-on-air books don't wanna be bothered managing yet another market and potentially get killed on one side 'cause they were asleep at the switch.
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