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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #1
    Barney Frank to repeal UIGEA
    Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:12pm EST
    By Doug Palmer

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A senior Democratic lawmaker will push legislation this year to repeal a U.S. ban on Internet gambling that has hurt trade ties with the European Union, a congressional aide said.

    "The bill introduction should happen in the next month," a spokesman for House of Representatives Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

    On Thursday, Reuters reported the EU could file a complaint about U.S. enforcement of the gambling ban at the World Trade Organization.

    "Mr. Frank will bring back legislation to repeal the UIGEA (Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act)," the spokesman said, referring to a Republican-crafted bill passed in 2006 when the party controlled Congress and the White House.

    Supporters of the ban argued offshore Internet gambling websites take billions of dollars out the U.S. economy, damage families and serve as vehicles for money laundering.

    The law cost Europe's online gambling companies billions in lost market value as they were forced to retreat from one of their most lucrative markets. It barred businesses from knowingly accepting payments in connection with unlawful Internet gambling, including payments made through credit cards, electronic fund transfers and checks.

    Against Frank's advice, the Bush administration finalized regulations late last year to implement the ban and gave companies until December 1 to comply.

    Frank said the rules would burden the financial service industry at a time of economic crisis.

    Many publicly traded European companies, like PartyGaming and 888.com, withdrew from the United States after Congress passed the ban, but they face possible criminal prosecution for activities before then.

    The European Commission, acting on industry petition, began a formal investigation in March into whether Washington was singling out EU companies for enforcement actions while allowing U.S. online firms to operate freely.

    Sources familiar with that investigation told Reuters in Brussels on Thursday they expect the investigators' report, initially due last year, to recommend action at the WTO when it is released next month.

    Rather than move immediately to litigation, EU officials would use the report as leverage to seek a negotiated solution with the United States, they said.
  • RogueScholar
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-05-07
    • 5082

    #2
    And Barney Frank being our only gay Congressman, gives us yet another reason to celebrate the wonderful GLBT community in America and throughout the world. We know what it's like to fight oppression and never want to take the easy way out. Go Barney!

    Originally posted by StraitShooter
    90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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    • Tsoprano
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-14-08
      • 26374

      #3
      Motha fukkin cheers to Barney!!

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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        wonder if this would bring Pinnacle or Neteller back into the fold, or if they are just going to stay gone for good.

        Neteller i can't imagine ever coming back, but Pinnacle SHOULD.
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        • Mudcat
          Restricted User
          • 07-21-05
          • 9287

          #5
          Man, I would love if UIGEA was repealed. But I just can't see it. All I see is the U.S. getting more and more protectionist and isolationist.

          Just my impression. Nothing scientific. Hopefully I'm picking up on the wrong vibes and I'm just plain wrong.
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          • WileOut
            SBR MVP
            • 02-04-07
            • 3844

            #6
            We knew this was coming. It should work with the congress being democratic and the president too. Look for legalized poker soon and hopefully a loosening of the noose around the payment systems of all offshores. This of course would help SBR too!

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            • BestPlay2day
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-08
              • 5794

              #7
              Hope this happens. One good thing about getting the bullshit "family value" Republicans out of control is things like this has a chance to pass. Not that I like Democrats either, but I want the online gaming to be like it was a couple years ago when we can fund our accounts with ease.
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              • topgame85
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-30-08
                • 12325

                #8
                got the support of Ron Paul my main man
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                • InTheHole
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-28-08
                  • 15243

                  #9
                  Thanks for the update!
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                  • Bluehorseshoe
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-06
                    • 15018

                    #10
                    Where do I send the money to Barney Frank's future campaign?
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                    • Dante
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 130

                      #11
                      at least this is going in the right direction for once
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                      • BobHarvey
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-08-08
                        • 3987

                        #12
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                        • j0hnnyv
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-06-09
                          • 3620

                          #13
                          great news. being able to use pinnacle seems too good to be true
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                          • buztah
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-23-07
                            • 7470

                            #14
                            The US needs to join the modern world. Good going, BF!
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                            • durito
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-03-06
                              • 13173

                              #15
                              Pinnacle will not come back.
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                              • bettilimbroke999
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-04-08
                                • 13254

                                #16
                                Originally posted by durito
                                Pinnacle will not come back.
                                If it was legalized in US you dont think Pinny would go back to the way it was?
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                                • Bluehorseshoe
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-06
                                  • 15018

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                  If it was legalized in US you dont think Pinny would go back to the way it was?
                                  I don't think Pinnacle would be back either.

                                  Neteller would definitely be back though.
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                    I don't think Pinnacle would be back either.

                                    Neteller would definitely be back though.

                                    Neteller leaving had nothing to do with UIGEA. Their founders were arrested after a long DOJ investigation. UIGEA was not even in effect yet. Whatever the deal they cut, it surely included not servicing the USA again. They will not be back.
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                                    • durito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-03-06
                                      • 13173

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                      If it was legalized in US you dont think Pinny would go back to the way it was?
                                      Sure, if it's legalized PInnacle would certainly come back.

                                      But, overturning UIGEA does not legalize it. The US gov't and DOJ believed it to be illegal before UIGEA and the Neteller/BetOnSports arrests were based on laws on the books long before UIGEA.
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                                      • curious
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 07-20-07
                                        • 9093

                                        #20
                                        What you really need to ask is how many millions in "campaign contributions" are being funneled Frank's way?

                                        If he was a real American instead of a coward he would tell the European Union to go **** themselves.
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                                        • Bluehorseshoe
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-13-06
                                          • 15018

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by durito
                                          Neteller leaving had nothing to do with UIGEA. Their founders were arrested after a long DOJ investigation. UIGEA was not even in effect yet. Whatever the deal they cut, it surely included not servicing the USA again. They will not be back.
                                          The passage of the UIGEA caused mammoth online poker rooms such as Party Gaming’s PartyPoker, Pacific Poker, and Mansion to vacate the U.S. market. A variety of payment processors also departed, including Neteller and Citadel Commerce, with many players having money tied up in the former. All told, despite its vagueness, the UIGEA’s effects have been long-lasting in the United States. The effect that its regulations will have on the industry remains unknown.
                                          Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA) announced that he will reintroduce legislation favorable to internet gaming in the coming weeks.
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                                          • fiveteamer
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-14-08
                                            • 10805

                                            #22
                                            curious it must kill guys like you and BrentCrude that a homo Democrat is trying to make YOUR life easier.
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                                            • durito
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-03-06
                                              • 13173

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                              Just because some poker site says something doesn't make it true. Neteller left after its founders were arrested for money laundering and subsequently cut a deal with the US gov't. THis was January 2007.

                                              People think it had to do with UIGEA since it was passed in November of 2006, but it doesn't as it didn't go into effect for nearly a year (actually it's finalization didn't happen till two months ago)
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                                              • curious
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 07-20-07
                                                • 9093

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                curious it must kill guys like you and BrentCrude that a homo Democrat is trying to make YOUR life easier.
                                                guy like me? What exactly is a "guy like me"?

                                                He wont' make my life any easier. I don't need his dammm help. I could care less if they legalize internet gambling or not.

                                                What I do care is that one of our elected "leaders" worries what the ****ing European Union wants when they make US policy. They are whining because their gambling sites can't siphon billions away from the US economy? TEll them to go **** off.
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                                                • Bluehorseshoe
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-13-06
                                                  • 15018

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by durito
                                                  Just because some poker site says something doesn't make it true. Neteller left after its founders were arrested for money laundering and subsequently cut a deal with the US gov't. THis was January 2007.

                                                  People think it had to do with UIGEA since it was passed in November of 2006, but it doesn't as it didn't go into effect for nearly a year (actually it's finalization didn't happen till two months ago)
                                                  Even if that was the case, are they even connected to Neteller anymore?
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                                                  • durito
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                    • 13173

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                    Even if that was the case, are they even connected to Neteller anymore?
                                                    No, and they weren't then. Didn't matter, when the US gov't wants you, they can do whatever they want.

                                                    Them and the company still cut a deal with the DOJ that was not in anyway related to UIGEA. As such a repeal of UIGEA will do nothing in terms of Neteller.

                                                    It could very well mean that someone would take the risk to start a Neteller type replacement, but Neteller itself will not be taking US customers.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      This might pass

                                                      Would be great news
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                                                      • Igetp2s
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-21-07
                                                        • 1046

                                                        #28
                                                        Barney Frank could do more for the US by disclosing all the protection money he received from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac so that they wouldn't be regulated, thereby destroying the American economy.

                                                        One of the biggest scumbags there is.
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                                                        • JBC77
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-23-07
                                                          • 3816

                                                          #29
                                                          Yeah, cause they are desperate for tax dollars.
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                                                          • so im zach
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 01-07-09
                                                            • 585

                                                            #30
                                                            This would be awesome.
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                                                            • konck
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-17-06
                                                              • 12554

                                                              #31
                                                              Barney Franks hahahhaha man there's one fat fuk homo lol plus on top of it all he got caught scamming he is a the human toilet
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