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  • Tsoprano
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-14-08
    • 26374

    #1
    Whatever happened to all the creditwagering predictions??
    I throught they were going to "disappear" during football season?

    I thought they were going to disappear after the superbowl?

    Looks like they are still around to me, i'm sure there could be over 832 threads bumped doubting the length of their existence.

    I'm not a member there, but the site is still up and running.


    LOL
  • konck
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-17-06
    • 12554

    #2
    There still like you a toilet. They dont take any action worth while unless you post up which is the whole idea isn't it
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    • Tsoprano
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-14-08
      • 26374

      #3
      Awww, how's my little troll doing?
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        Well I have never posted up and they still raised my limits. If you give them enough volume, they will raise you.
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        • JBC77
          SBR MVP
          • 03-23-07
          • 3816

          #5
          I still stand by my prediction that they will fall. It's operated out of the U.S and it's only a matter of time before the Feds bag and tag this one along with the data base of drivers licenses. Running a contest in U.S.A Today probably not the brightest idea. All it's gonna take is one housewife to see her mug on the stiffs page after her hubby stole her identity to place a bet and it's game over. Better hope you pay your taxes on any winnings......
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          • Cloak & Dagger
            SBR MVP
            • 11-15-07
            • 4781

            #6
            Originally posted by JBC77
            I still stand by my prediction that they will fall. It's operated out of the U.S and it's only a matter of time before the Feds bag and tag this one along with the data base of drivers licenses. Running a contest in U.S.A Today probably not the brightest idea. All it's gonna take is one housewife to see her mug on the stiffs page after her hubby stole her identity to place a bet and it's game over. Better hope you pay your taxes on any winnings......
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            • THEGREAT30
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-04-08
              • 8970

              #7
              CW and Jose Canseco currently working on a tell all once they fall.
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #8
                I seriously doubt they operate out of the US. If that was true. they never would have advertised their .net contest in print ads. They are not stupid.
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                • Tsoprano
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 04-14-08
                  • 26374

                  #9
                  So far 90% of the people predicting their downfall were wrong.
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                  • Mudcat
                    Restricted User
                    • 07-21-05
                    • 9287

                    #10
                    I don't now whether I made any actual predictions or not, but if I did, it was probably that they would fail. With their business model and general shadiness, it is surprising to me they have lasted this long.

                    However since they have been in business, they have done better with payouts than some A+ books here. Having said that, I still have no use for a shady, penny-ante credit shop and couldn't be bothered ever signing up.

                    I'm just glad they aren't as obnoxious as they were for awhile. They were using SBR as a doormat and it was pretty distasteful. I'm glad SBR finally reigned it in.
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                    • JBC77
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-23-07
                      • 3816

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      I seriously doubt they operate out of the US. If that was true. they never would have advertised their .net contest in print ads. They are not stupid.
                      Well then, when SBR attempted to add some validity to these guys they buttoned up in top secret mode. When they gained popularity and SBR, the best player advocate forum on the web asked for info they wouldn't give it. If it was an open book like say BetJam I would change my thoughts on them. Until then I still think it's a bad idea to send these guys your info, debit card or not. If your offshore why hide. I can understand to some extent ownership wanting to stay private but they treated it as hush hush yet they want your ID's and crap. It's a two way street.
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                      • Tsoprano
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 04-14-08
                        • 26374

                        #12
                        Creditwagering.com blasts this song all day long in their offices while reading threads about their potenial downfall:

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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JBC77
                          Well then, when SBR attempted to add some validity to these guys they buttoned up in top secret mode. When they gained popularity and SBR, the best player advocate forum on the web asked for info they wouldn't give it. If it was an open book like say BetJam I would change my thoughts on them. Until then I still think it's a bad idea to send these guys your info, debit card or not. If your offshore why hide. I can understand to some extent ownership wanting to stay private but they treated it as hush hush yet they want your ID's and crap. It's a two way street.
                          But if they were in the US, why would they draw attention by advertising in mainstream US newspapers? Makes no sense.
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                          • JBC77
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-23-07
                            • 3816

                            #14
                            Greed. Same reason Wall Street securitized mortgages they knew were going to go bad.

                            I believe with the CW business model you have a high number of people who are not going to pay, more than actually appear on the stiffs page. I'm speculating but it may operate in a manner similar to that of a ponzi scheme in the sense you constantly need new players to pay out the winners. I'm sure they have weeks where they turn a profit and many others where they bleed bad. Could be a sheer numbers game where say every 100 signups you get 35% of those people who actually pay when they lose.

                            Again, if they had a rating on SBR and we knew more about them my opinions on them would probably change. You could form a rational opinion on these guys if we just knew a little more about them. Logic says you don't send your personal info into the unknown abyss for $1000.00 worth of credit.
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                            • Iwinyourmoney
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-18-07
                              • 18368

                              #15
                              CW told me that SBR was pissed because CW wouldnt let them visit their offices or give them any info on them, they basically told the big guys at SBR to F off.........and from what I heard SBRJohn wasnt very happy.

                              But like Ben said.........it's his business, he doesnt need people snopping around his office.
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                              • Live4bet
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-04-09
                                • 128

                                #16
                                They must be doing something right....
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                                • Tsoprano
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-14-08
                                  • 26374

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Live4bet
                                  They must be doing something right....
                                  Bingo
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                                  • Cloak & Dagger
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-15-07
                                    • 4781

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
                                    CW told me that SBR was pissed because CW wouldnt let them visit their offices or give them any info on them, they basically told the big guys at SBR to F off.........and from what I heard SBRJohn wasnt very happy.

                                    But like Ben said.........it's his business, he doesnt need people snopping around his office.
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                                    • frostno98
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 9769

                                      #19
                                      To my suprised, they're still here. Running stronger than ever.
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                                      • sickler
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-05-08
                                        • 15006

                                        #20
                                        Yup, many are eating crow over predicting early failure for cw.

                                        To play it safe, I'll offer a prediction. This guy will never pay his debt:


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                                        • pimike
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-23-08
                                          • 37140

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sickler
                                          Yup, many are eating crow over predicting early failure for cw.

                                          To play it safe, I'll offer a prediction. This guy will never pay his debt:


                                          Not a good bet he is working out a payment plan as we speak

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                                          • frostno98
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-11-07
                                            • 9769

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sickler
                                            Yup, many are eating crow over predicting early failure for cw.

                                            To play it safe, I'll offer a prediction. This guy will never pay his debt:


                                            R you sure that's a dude.
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                                            • sickler
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-05-08
                                              • 15006

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by frostno98
                                              R you sure that's a dude.

                                              Don't know of any chicks named Martin.

                                              Suppose they coulda missed an "a" at the end, making it Martina.
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                                              • sickler
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-05-08
                                                • 15006

                                                #24
                                                Mike, dude looks like a superstiff. Those shifty eyes...
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                                                • pimike
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-23-08
                                                  • 37140

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by sickler
                                                  Mike, dude looks like a superstiff. Those shifty eyes...


                                                  Tweeker
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                                                  • AgainstAllOdds
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                    • 6053

                                                    #26
                                                    People would be crazy not play at this place. They have semi weak lines and are SLOW to move them. Sometimes they just dont move them period and you can get better odds than pinny or matchbook.

                                                    From my experience they are A+.

                                                    Overnights up
                                                    Good CS
                                                    Fast payouts.
                                                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                    AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                                                    • Cloak & Dagger
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-15-07
                                                      • 4781

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                                      Not a good bet he is working out a payment plan as we speak

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                                                      • Francis Sollozzo
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-15-07
                                                        • 2381

                                                        #28
                                                        I played into them very early on, even started a thread, they paid in a timely fashion all the way through baseball last season up to the WS. Then I left.
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                                                        • Cloak & Dagger
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-15-07
                                                          • 4781

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Francis Sollozzo
                                                          I played into them very early on, even started a thread, they paid in a timely fashion all the way through baseball last season up to the WS. Then I left.
                                                          ya..you have been touting them since the first day they advertised here on SBR

                                                          ironically....that was about the same time I seen you post on here..for the first time
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                                                          • Francis Sollozzo
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-15-07
                                                            • 2381

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Cloak & Dagger
                                                            ya..you have been touting them since the first day they advertised here on SBR

                                                            ironically....that was about the same time I seen you post on here..for the first time
                                                            I'm not sure what is your point assuming you have one. Regardless of what you think about my motivation CW is still around, something you swore wouldn't happen. I stopped playing into them when I did because I too was afraid they wouldn't last past foots. See, I posted up with them and wanted my cash back.
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                                                            • Cloak & Dagger
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-15-07
                                                              • 4781

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Francis Sollozzo
                                                              I'm not sure what is your point assuming you have one. Regardless of what you think about my motivation CW is still around, something you swore wouldn't happen. I stopped playing into them when I did because I too was afraid they wouldn't last past foots. See, I posted up with them and wanted my cash back.
                                                              BETUS is still around also...I dont see your point
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                                                              • Francis Sollozzo
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-15-07
                                                                • 2381

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Cloak & Dagger
                                                                BETUS is still around also...I dont see your point
                                                                Now you're being nonsensical. The point is YOU thought they would not be around in 2009, they are, you were wrong. That's the point.

                                                                You deflect by interjecting betUS
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                                                                • Richkas
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-03-08
                                                                  • 19396

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Credit Wagering

                                                                  A+ Book
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                                                                  • Cloak & Dagger
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-15-07
                                                                    • 4781

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Francis Sollozzo
                                                                    Now you're being nonsensical. The point is YOU thought they would not be around in 2009, they are, you were wrong. That's the point.

                                                                    You deflect by interjecting betUS
                                                                    how do you know what I thought??

                                                                    I have made statements that they will not last...by that I mean slow pay will turn to no pay eventually

                                                                    but I never made a call as to when....go dig up a post where I said they would end by a certain day
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                                                                    • Slim
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-13-08
                                                                      • 4722

                                                                      #35
                                                                      CW is a solid book. People who never played there shouldn't say anything about them. CW paid me faster than Bookmaker and they're an SBR rated A+ book. Bookmaker are the real scammers and for the record I still haven't gotten my 7 poker freeroll tickets I was supposed to get from over 2 weeks ago when I made a deposit there. This is what I get and they always tell me to contact the other department aka runaround. I contact the poker department and they say to contact customer service. Ane Ahole

                                                                      Sir,

                                                                      Regarding the 7 free entries to the Daily Invitational $100 Poker Tournament you need to contact Poker department, those entries are not available but they can trade them for entries that have more value. You need to talk to them for you to apply this entries.

                                                                      Regards,

                                                                      Ane A
                                                                      Casino Assistant Manager
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