Do successful bettors ever become mods?

[donjuan]

Before the season burito claimed teasers were easy $$$$$ and cited Justin as the teaser guru. I disagreed as I had never seen anyone make real money doing it

I checked his record towards the end of the season and he was 1 game over .500!!!!!!! Maybe enough money for a taxi fare. But there were dozens of straight bettors hitting 55% and better.

I stand by my position that u cant make money betting teasers exclusively.

+EV teasers ran extremely cold this year. You can definitely make money betting exclusively NFL teasers but you're a moron if that's all you are doing.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Dagger,

Look up the statistical term: random walk.

[donjuan]

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What you're saying is akin to saying that a good business teacher will always be a successful businessperson. They're too different things entirely and they often have little to do with one another.

One involves understanding theory and being able to explain the theory well. (Being a good business teacher.)

A successful businessperson may or may not understand theory but they can be successful regardless. Being a good business teacher has little to do with being a successful businessperson.

Those who have a poor understanding of sports betting are hardly qualified to comment on whether or not someone else has a positive expectation or not.

[daggerkobe]

burito, Im a results oriented person.

Dont blow smoke up my ass and tell me ur a great business person, go out and prove it by creating a successful business! Same goes for sportsbetting...... dont tell me ur a great bettor, PROVE it! :an_idea:

[durito]

burito, Im a results oriented person.

Dont blow smoke up my ass and tell me ur a great business person, go out and prove it by creating a successful business! Same goes for sportsbetting...... dont tell me ur a great bettor, PROVE it! :an_idea:

Prove what?

That basic strategy teasers have been profitable in the NFL over the last 20 years is fact. Look it up. Surely you have your own NFL database.

If this is going to change, then the scoring distribution in the NFL needs to change. So unless they make a FG worth 5pts or make teams go for 2 after every TD anytime soon, you can expect wong teasers to be profitable (at the right odds of course) going forward.

[fearless]

Those who have a poor understanding of sports betting are hardly qualified to comment on whether or not someone else has a positive expectation or not.

If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. You didn't reply to what I said at all and you attacked me. I just won the argument.

You've offended me like this so I'll challenge you to a one week duel. Do you want to back up your claim?

[daggerkobe]

+EV teasers ran extremely cold this year. You can definitely make money betting exclusively NFL teasers but you're a moron if that's all you are doing.

Sure.

You're just glorified trend bettors and will go broke sooner or later
If not already.

[daggerkobe]

Prove what?

That basic strategy teasers have been profitable in the NFL over the last 20 years is fact. Look it up. Surely you have your own NFL database.

If this is going to change, then the scoring distribution in the NFL needs to change. So unless they make a FG worth 5pts or make teams go for 2 after every TD anytime soon, you can expect wong teasers to be profitable (at the right odds of course) going forward.

Then post your picks.

At least ur teacher had the balls to and went 1 game over .500. Again no offense to Justin.

[MonkeyF0cker]

+EV teasers have nothing to do with trends. Not even close.

[daggerkobe]

burito, how about a little bet?

Post ur teasers for next season and if u can hit 55% u win.

Im willing to wager $5000 that you wont.

We on?

[durito]

Then post your picks.

At least ur teacher had the balls to and went 1 game over .500. Again no offense to Justin.

I didn't learn about Wong teasers from Justin. I learned about them in Wong's book like everyone else in the world that used to play these before books stopped taking them. Sorry you missed out.


I don't make picks -- i exploit mispricings.

[Panic]

durito, are you drinking tonight?

[durito]

durito, are you drinking tonight?

No. I quit.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Then post your picks.

At least ur teacher had the balls to and went 1 game over .500. Again no offense to Justin.

Posting picks is a waste of time, energy, efficiency, and expectation. We don't bet like you do. We don't flat bet. Unless you want us to put our percentages up, you wouldn't know for sure whether a 7-2 day or a 1-9 day were profitable or not. Meanwhile, why would we want to influence a pool of bettors to the same side we're on. It's counter-productive when your goal is to maximize value. I don't know about you, but I'm not here to try to impress anyone and the last thing I need to do is my bookkeeping twice so some schmucks on here can know my business. So tell me, what is in it for any successful bettor to post their picks?

[donjuan]

You've offended me like this so I'll challenge you to a one week duel. Do you want to back up your claim?

Challenging me to an e-peen 1 week challenge only further cements that you don't have a clue.

[donjuan]

Posting picks is a waste of time, energy, efficiency, and expectation. We don't bet like you do. We don't flat bet. Unless you want us to put our percentages up, you wouldn't know for sure whether a 7-2 day or a 1-9 day were profitable or not. Meanwhile, why would we want to influence a pool of bettors to the same side we're on. It's counter-productive when your goal is to maximize value. I don't know about you, but I'm not here to try to impress anyone and the last thing I need to do is my bookkeeping twice so some schmucks on here can know my business. So tell me, what is in it for any successful bettor to post their picks?

Exactly. The +EV bettors recognize each other pretty quickly and can privately exchange info which is mutually beneficial rather than just giving it away to a bunch of leaches.

[fearless]

Challenging me to an e-peen 1 week challenge only further cements that you don't have a clue.

Once again you ignore the message and attack the messenger.

We can make this thing unlimited picks (up to 50 we don't be grading forever). That means if you only see two games that you love and you go 2-0 then that will stand and I'll have to beat that. We can do it over a month, I'm confident.

[durito]

burito, how about a little bet?

Post ur teasers for next season and if u can hit 55% u win.

Im willing to wager $5000 that you wont.

We on?

You want me to bet with you at -122 on something I can bet with reputable places at +100?

[Justin7]

Then post your picks.

At least ur teacher had the balls to and went 1 game over .500. Again no offense to Justin.

Did I even post a complete teaser? Usually, I only give out legs, not whole plays.

Btw, while 6-pt NFL teasers were tough this year, other teasers did very well.

[daggerkobe]

Posting picks is a waste of time, energy, efficiency, and expectation. We don't bet like you do. We don't flat bet. Unless you want us to put our percentages up, you wouldn't know for sure whether a 7-2 day or a 1-9 day were profitable or not. Meanwhile, why would we want to influence a pool of bettors to the same side we're on. It's counter-productive when your goal is to maximize value. I don't know about you, but I'm not here to try to impress anyone and the last thing I need to do is my bookkeeping twice so some schmucks on here can know my business. So tell me, what is in it for any successful bettor to post their picks?

If someone shows up claiming to be a close relative of Peyton Manning wouldnt you want proof?

Same thing with bettors. When someone claims to be a successful gambler i want them to orove themselves. Otherwise its no different than all these noobs that come here and claim to be 100-5.

I mean if none of u are here to impress then why even mention that ur successful at betting?

[donjuan]

Once again you ignore the message and attack the messenger.

We can make this thing unlimited picks (up to 50 we don't be grading forever). That means if you only see two games that you love and you go 2-0 then that will stand and I'll have to beat that. We can do it over a month, I'm confident.

50 game sample size indicative of anything? LOL.

[fearless]

50 game sample size indicative of anything? LOL.

I'm putting you on ignore. You said I don't understand sports betting. I'm no expert but I think I'll beat you. That's all.

[Mudcat]

I am with Daggerkobe to a large extent. My reasoning may be different but I think we are at the same conclusion.

Being someone who makes my living at betting - and having been a mod - I don't believe anyone that is modding is likely to be terribly successful at betting.

Being a mod is just not fun enough. You're a subordinate. Depending on the exact mod duties - which vary - you are dealing with scammers and snotty teens talking to you like you're stupid and all kinds of crap. And it's not that lucrative.


I guess it depends how you define successful. Maybe those guys pick up a few bucks. But based on my experience, I find it hard to believe that anyone who can be fully self-employed with their betting would be a mod for any more than a short experimental period. You are basically giving away money in order to do something that isn't enjoyable.

Why would you do it?

[donjuan]

I'm putting you on ignore. You said I don't understand sports betting. I'm no expert but I think I'll beat you. That's all.

Feel free to. I should do the same to about 99% of this forum but that would reduce my entertainment level.

[MonkeyF0cker]

If someone shows up claiming to be a close relative of Peyton Manning wouldnt you want proof?

Same thing with bettors. When someone claims to be a successful gambler i want them to orove themselves. Otherwise its no different than all these noobs that come here and claim to be 100-5.

I mean if none of u are here to impress then why even mention that ur successful at betting?

You actually think I'd care enough about whether someone is related to Peyton Manning or not? The reason we say things is because we're attempting to point you in the right direction. But perhaps you're right, maybe we should just allow ignorance to reign here. However, other successful advantage bettors are excellent resources for all of us to learn from and expand our expertise. That is our reason for being here.

[pavyracer]

1. Reading through two pages of garbage regarding succesfull gamblers and their techniques: 2 hours of my time.

2. Not getting a single pick from these experts: priceless

[AgainstAllOdds]

Feel free to. I should do the same to about 99% of this forum but that would reduce my entertainment level.

[durito]

It took you two hours to read this thread?

My burro can read it faster.

[daggerkobe]

First of all, do i look like i need any help with gambling?

Secondly, when u got douchebags like the +EV elitiest snobs going around bashing others picks (after games are over) left and right without proving themselves then they are nothing more than unproven noobs with their noses up their ass.

Everyones a successful bettor until they have to prove themselves.

[Slim]

My logic is lacking? Your comparison is irrelevant.

Ganchrow and Justin have discussed advantage sports gambling and sportsbooks here at SBR for years. The information they have posted on this forum in incredibly valuable to anyone seeking to learn how to win at sportsbetting (and yes that has from time to time included a "pick" -- although the other info is far more valuable). Like I said, if you read through their posts and can't conclude that they in fact win at this, then I'd suggest reading the posts again.

I'd suggest you to shut up. People can talk the talk but can they walk the walk? Until Justin and Ganch release a few picks I'll assume they lose. Just like these big companies where their CEO's talk like they know it all yet their company is millions in debt and in need of a bailout.

[Panic]

No. I quit.

You are a better man than I. Congrats. Hope you stick with it.

[durito]

I'd suggest you to shut up. People can talk the talk but can they walk the walk? Until Justin and Ganch release a few picks I'll assume they lose. Just like these big companies where their CEO's talk like they know it all yet their company is millions in debt and in need of a bailout.

lol

[durito]

You are a better man than I. Congrats. Hope you stick with it.

Thanks. I hope I can too.

I clearly can't be a part timer.

[donjuan]

First of all, do i look like i need any help with gambling?

Yes. Yes, yes yes.

Secondly, when u got douchebags like the +EV elitiest snobs going around bashing others picks (after games are over) left and right without proving themselves then they are nothing more than unproven noobs with their noses up their ass.

So you aren't +EV? GG.

[donjuan]

I'd suggest you to shut up. People can talk the talk but can they walk the walk? Until Justin and Ganch release a few picks I'll assume they lose. Just like these big companies where their CEO's talk like they know it all yet their company is millions in debt and in need of a bailout.

Justin has posted plenty of picks. Ganchrow and Justin have contributed far more to this forum in gambling knowledge than any other posters here.