What's more likely?? Jags 0-16 or Denver 16-0???? Great prop to make

BigDeem5 · 10-01-13, 07:51 AM

0 chance Denver goes 16-0.

I'm ready to fade in playoffs as well.

BennyBigNuts · 10-01-13, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

0 chance Denver goes 16-0.

I'm ready to fade in playoffs as well.

I don't wanna fade Manning this time in the playoffs, although he's always been a cash cow for choking.

The day Wes Welker signed with them after the Patriots wanted to act like tough guys who didn't need him my one desire to see happen in NFL this year was Welker jamming it in Brady and company's asspockets in the AFC finals.

SamDiamond · 10-01-13, 07:58 AM

Ben, Jax is better at sucking.

So, I'd take the Jags going 0-16.

Doesn't take much to stumble once and lose in the NFL.

Take more to win a game.

ApricotSinner32 · 10-01-13, 07:58 AM

Denver 16-0 more likely... jaguars will win atleast 1 game.

BennyBigNuts · 10-01-13, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by SamDiamond

Ben, Jax is better at sucking.

So, I'd take the Jags going 0-16.

Doesn't take much to stumble once and lose in the NFL.

Take more to win a game.

Originally posted by ApricotSinner32

Denver 16-0 more likely... jaguars will win atleast 1 game.

See, it's a great prop already.
I can't really set a line for it.
I think it's real close.

ApricotSinner32 · 10-01-13, 08:13 AM

I fukked that up I mean its more likely that jags win one game than denver going 16-0 sorry not awake yet drinking coffee bennnnnnay

sweep · 10-01-13, 08:18 AM

Anyone who really likes Denver can get them -1 in the SB right now...

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Louisvillekid1 · 10-01-13, 08:19 AM

Neither has a chance

InTheDrink · 10-01-13, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Neither has a chance

d2bets · 10-01-13, 08:40 AM

Jags 0-16 more likely. Jags have a tough schedule too. I can't find their win. Home vs. Arizona or Buffalo?

Denver has plenty of chances to lose. @ Indy, SD, NE, KC, Hou. 5 tough road games.

BennyBigNuts · 10-01-13, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Jags 0-16 more likely. Jags have a tough schedule too. I can't find their win. Home vs. Arizona or Buffalo?

Denver has plenty of chances to lose. @ Indy, SD, NE, KC, Hou. 5 tough road games.

I dunno, teams slip up playing the worst teams in the NFL a lot. They don't take em seriously and end up getting embarrassed.
BUT at the same time, every team will play 110% trying to beat Denver. They will get their opponent's best efforts every week this year.

d2bets · 10-01-13, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by BennyBigNuts

I dunno, teams slip up playing the worst teams in the NFL a lot. They don't take em seriously and end up getting embarrassed.
BUT at the same time, every team will play 110% trying to beat Denver. They will get their opponent's best efforts every week this year.

Yeah. It just seems like Denver has more losable games than Jax has winnable ones.

konck · 10-01-13, 09:52 AM

Unless Jax picks up another QB Jags 0-16 they want it

jjgold · 10-01-13, 10:43 AM

I say Jax

Slimpickens · 10-01-13, 10:54 AM

To answer the question according to sportsbook.ag they both have equal chances to perform the feat of going unbeaten or winless. Both given 10-1 chances.

d2bets · 10-01-13, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

To answer the question according to sportsbook.ag they both have equal chances to perform the feat of going unbeaten or winless. Both given 10-1 chances.

Seriously? I'd hammer Jags 0-16 at the 10-1. I guess I should run the numbers but that seems really good.

d2bets · 10-01-13, 11:05 AM

OK I ran the numbers on Jax, trying to be very generous to them and came up with +670 that they go winless. It's probably less as their stock keeps falling as they lose. So I think 10-1 is a great bet. Detroit had a winless season and this team is much worse.

d2bets · 10-01-13, 11:08 AM

I came up with Denver at 20-1 to go 16-0.

No question 0-16 is more likely.

Slimpickens · 10-01-13, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

OK I ran the numbers on Jax, trying to be very generous to them and came up with +670 that they go winless. It's probably less as their stock keeps falling as they lose. So I think 10-1 is a great bet. Detroit had a winless season and this team is much worse.

Yep 10-1 for them to lose all games. I dont think it will happen but agree it is a more than fair price. They also have there over under of wins at 1.5. Over is -225 and under 1.5 is +175.

Also over under of 2.5 wins price set at -130 for under. Maybe a take a shot play on the zero wins at 10-1 and a cover at under 2.5?

2daBank · 10-01-13, 11:14 AM

really good chance jags beat the lambs if ya ask me..

DoYouNotGetIT · 10-01-13, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

OK I ran the numbers on Jax, trying to be very generous to them and came up with +670 that they go winless. It's probably less as their stock keeps falling as they lose. So I think 10-1 is a great bet. Detroit had a winless season and this team is much worse.

Detroit team was worse and had a tougher schedule because they had all good teams at the end of their schedule. Jacksonville last six games in order Cardinals, Texans, Browns, Texans, Bills, Titans, and Colts. Broncos 16-0 is more likely.

2013 Jacksonville vs. 2008 Detroit

QB Jacksonville has the advantage
RB Jacksonville has the advantage
WR Detroit had the advantage
OT Jacksonville has the advantage
TE Jacksonville has the advantage
Defense Both teams defenses are/were god awful
Coach Rod Marinelli was awful couldn't imagine Gus Bradley being as bad
Schedule Jacksonville by a mile that 2008 Detroit schedule was brutal

Slimpickens · 10-01-13, 11:16 AM

I see 5dimes has Denver to go undefeated at +320. WTF is that?

2daBank · 10-01-13, 11:19 AM

getting blackmon back should make a decent difference, should open some space for mjd as he has to be respected outside and he is a beast once he gets the ball in his hands.. id take mjd, balckmon, and shorts over anything on offense lambs have to offer, qbs are pretty much a wash as bradford every bit as horrible as the clowns jags throwing out there..

d2bets · 10-01-13, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

I see 5dimes has Denver to go undefeated at +320. WTF is that?

Do they have the other side?

d2bets · 10-01-13, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT

Detroit team was worse and had a tougher schedule because they had all good teams at the end of their schedule. Jacksonville last six games in order Cardinals, Texans, Browns, Texans, Bills, Titans, and Colts. Broncos 16-0 is more likely.

2013 Jacksonville vs. 2008 Detroit

QB Jacksonville has the advantage
RB Jacksonville has the advantage
WR Detroit had the advantage
OT Jacksonville has the advantage
TE Jacksonville has the advantage
Defense Both teams defenses are/were god awful
Coach Rod Marinelli was awful couldn't imagine Gus Bradley being as bad
Schedule Jacksonville by a mile that 2008 Detroit schedule was brutal

Project out the odds for each game in both scenarios and run the numbers and then come back to me and see if you still think so.

Slimpickens · 10-01-13, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Do they have the other side?

Not undefeated is -460.

Slimpickens · 10-01-13, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Project out the odds for each game in both scenarios and run the numbers and then come back to me and see if you still think so.

Gotta think the only games the Jags wouldnt be over a TD underdog are the 3 home games against Cards, Bills and Titans.

d2bets · 10-01-13, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

Not undefeated is -460.

Wow! That is a GREAT bet. So Sportsbook has +1000 undefeated and 5Dimes has -460 not undefeated?

Might not be worth playing around with betting the large -'s, but I guarantee you can make money betting the -460 and then taking Denver ML each game (skip the Jax game). Limits will be a problem though.

DoYouNotGetIT · 10-01-13, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

Not undefeated is -460.

I don't see them going undefeated only way that line is worth it to bet is if you bet $2300 to win $500 ($2300 to win $2800), but you are going to have that money tied up from at least October 20th to December 12th at the latest. Don't see Cowboys beating the Broncos, but not out of the realm of possibility seeing how sporadic over the years the Cowboys have been.

Slimpickens · 10-01-13, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Wow! That is a GREAT bet. So Sportsbook has +1000 undefeated and 5Dimes has -460 not undefeated?

Might not be worth playing around with betting the large -'s, but I guarantee you can make money betting the -460 and then taking Denver ML each game (skip the Jax game). Limits will be a problem though.

Only trouble is I see the max bet for both Jax to go winless and Denver undefeated is 50 bucks at sportsbook.

d2bets · 10-01-13, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT

I don't see them going undefeated only way that line is worth it to bet is if you bet $2300 to win $500 ($2300 to win $2800), but you are going to have that money tied up from at least October 20th to December 12th at the latest. Don't see Cowboys beating the Broncos, but not out of the realm of possibility seeing how sporadic over the years the Cowboys have been.

is that true? I mean, if Denver loses this week will they still hold it? Seems to me once they lose then they cannot go undefeated and the bet should settle. OTOH, if you take undefeated then obviously it can't payout quick.

DoYouNotGetIT · 10-01-13, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

Gotta think the only games the Jags wouldnt be over a TD underdog are the 3 home games against Cards, Bills and Titans.

Jags team are better than that 2008 Detroit Lions team and they have a soft schedule. Jags going 0-16 is a sucker bet. Rams, Titans (twice), Cardinals, Browns, and Bills are all teams that I wouldn't trust as a favorite betting the spread and teams that are known to lose. Jaguars have played 3 good/great teams (Seahawks, Colts, and Chiefs) and 1 bad team (Raiders).

DoYouNotGetIT · 10-01-13, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

is that true? I mean, if Denver loses this week will they still hold it? Seems to me once they lose then they cannot go undefeated and the bet should settle. OTOH, if you take undefeated then obviously it can't payout quick.

He posted -460 to not go undefeated are you that stupid to not know that $2300 to win $500 means you are laying a lot more money than you will receive?

To bet $2300 on Broncos to go undefeated you would win $5060 or some people say $2300 to win $7360.

easyliving · 10-01-13, 11:59 AM

no chance Denver goes 16-0 Peyton does not want that kind of added pressure heading into the playoffs, they will lose at least 2 in the regular season