TB @ TEX tomorrow.... Price vs. Perez

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  • frogsrangers
    Restricted User
    • 04-25-12
    • 5792

    #1
    TB @ TEX tomorrow.... Price vs. Perez
    Who do you have? Price has never pitched well vs. Texas... though Tampa Bay is 3-1 all time at Rangers Ballpark in playoff games, while unfortunately for the Rangers, Texas is 5-0 in Tampa.
  • thetrinity
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-25-11
    • 22430

    #2
    this is technically not a playoff game, 40 man rosters still in effect
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    • Louisvillekid1
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-17-07
      • 52143

      #3
      Can't Fukkin wait, love postseason/elimination baseball games
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      • Jikos
        SBR MVP
        • 04-28-13
        • 1663

        #4
        I think Texas is the play but what do I know
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        • Mike Huntertz
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-19-09
          • 11207

          #5
          TB is in the air flying to Texas....FWIW
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          • easyliving
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-25-12
            • 8876

            #6
            what determines which team gets home field advantage?
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              Rays easy.

              Ron washington. End of thread.


              Raysl rl all day.
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              • Noriega
                SBR Hustler
                • 02-18-11
                • 79

                #8
                Nelson Cruz back...leaning toward Texas. Rays may have some jet lag also
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                • EdV38
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 04-04-09
                  • 266

                  #9
                  Lots of value on that line for the Rangers. Price hasn't pitched THAT well this year. One win in the last 6 starts, although he pitched well enough in four of them. Price 1-4 and an ERA nearly 6 vs the Rangers. Rangers are home underdogs going in with a 7 game win streak while the Rays basically lost their momentum by nearly getting swept by the Jays. Rays are only 40-41 this year on the road.
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                  • Rich Boy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-01-09
                    • 9714

                    #10
                    Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

                    This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.
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                    • Pill Gates
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-06-11
                      • 342

                      #11
                      Im taking the Rangers. Theyre the hotter team at the moment. Rays looked shaky in Toronto. Cant wait for this game gonna be a good one
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                      • MCherry281
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-09-09
                        • 2318

                        #12
                        I want some of whatever oddsmakers were smoking when they made this line. Texas should be the favorites here. They have homefield which is massive in these games, much better hitting, and much more reliable pen. The only Tampa edge would be Price over Perez but Price isn't that great this year. If Perez does struggle at all he's getting yanked quickly with the 40 man rosters. I don't see either starting pitcher getting rocked though. This game will be played conservatively with a bunch of sac bunts and stuff like that. It will prob be tied late and Texas walks off with it.
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                        • JMobile
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-21-10
                          • 19074

                          #13
                          Moore should have started, he owns the the Rangers in Texas during the playoffs...if you consider this as a playoff game
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                          • KANSAS24
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-28-09
                            • 2492

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rich Boy
                            Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

                            This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.
                            NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND IM ON TEXAS
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                            • Down_Goes Bookie
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 06-18-13
                              • 422

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rich Boy
                              Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

                              This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.
                              Behind Perez's 3.55 ERA is a 4.36 FIP and .302 BABIP. And he faltered in September with a .298 BAA and 1.48 WHIP though his ERA remained good. He hasn't given up fewer than 3 ERs in home starts since July, so a dominant performance tonight is highly unlikely. More likely is that Lady Luck catches up with him and/or as a rookie pitcher he falters under post-season pressure.

                              Price has fared poorly against Texas, and especially in Arlington where over 4 GS he's racked up the highest ERA of any ballpark over his career -- a shocking 10.26. Current Rangers have hit him at .315, led by Alex Rios at .435. Cruz isn't shown in the table, but he's 6 for 12 lifetime vs. Price with 2 HRs.

                              Price is better pitcher than that and I'd expect him to put the sins of his Texas past behind him and continue his recent series of strong perfomances.

                              But numbers are numbers, I'll probably just enjoy the game.

                              Elvis Andrus 33 27 11 0 0 0 4 5 5 .407 .515 .407 .923 0 0 0 1 0
                              Ian Kinsler 30 27 6 2 0 1 3 2 3 .222 .276 .407 .683 1 0 0 0 0
                              Adrian Beltre 26 26 9 3 0 1 4 0 6 .346 .346 .577 .923 0 0 0 0 0
                              Alex Rios 26 23 10 2 1 2 7 3 5 .435 .500 .870 1.370 0 0 1 0 1
                              Craig Gentry 13 11 4 1 0 0 0 1 0 .364 .417 .455 .871 1 0 0 0 1
                              David Murphy 12 10 2 1 0 0 2 1 5 .200 .250 .300 .550 0 1 0 0 0
                              A.J. Pierzynski 12 10 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 .200 .273 .200 .473 1 0 0 1 1
                              Mitch Moreland 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0
                              Adam Rosales 5 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .200 .200 .200 .400 0 0 0 0 0
                              Geovany Soto 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .500 .500 .500 1.000 0 0 0 0 0
                              Total 164 146 46 9 1 4 20 12 30 .315 .373 .473 .845 3 1 1 2 3
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                              • wagerjunkie
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-24-13
                                • 4105

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                Perez is garbage, dont let his low ERA deceive you.

                                This guy has given up MORE hits than IP, 14 HR in 119 IP (thats bad), and has issues with walks. I dont think a young guy like that will handle the pressure well. Better off going with a proven guy in Price.
                                pretty much. his ERA of 3.55 is kind of a fluke. has an FIP of 4.21 n xFIP of 4.06 with a strand rate around 80% (most likely cause of those walks, which pretty soon those runners aren't gonna stay stranded and will start crossing the plate)

                                he's total hit or miss though cause he has nasty stuff when he is on, (strikes out nearly 6 per 9 innings but walks almost 3, with BABIP of .294 while hitters have an average of .266 against him and line drive rate of 20% and FB % of 30%) those last two would really scare me, backing him in a pressure situation in Arlington.
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                                • wagerjunkie
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-24-13
                                  • 4105

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Down_Goes Bookie
                                  Behind Perez's 3.55 ERA is a 4.36 FIP and .302 BABIP. And he faltered in September with a .298 BAA and 1.48 WHIP though his ERA remained good. He hasn't given up fewer than 3 ERs in home starts since July, so a dominant performance tonight is highly unlikely. More likely is that Lady Luck catches up with him and/or as a rookie pitcher he falters under post-season pressure.

                                  Price has fared poorly against Texas, and especially in Arlington where over 4 GS he's racked up the highest ERA of any ballpark over his career -- a shocking 10.26. Current Rangers have hit him at .315, led by Alex Rios at .435. Cruz isn't shown in the table, but he's 6 for 12 lifetime vs. Price with 2 HRs.

                                  Price is better pitcher than that and I'd expect him to put the sins of his Texas past behind him and continue his recent series of strong perfomances.

                                  But numbers are numbers, I'll probably just enjoy the game.

                                  Elvis Andrus 33 27 11 0 0 0 4 5 5 .407 .515 .407 .923 0 0 0 1 0
                                  Ian Kinsler 30 27 6 2 0 1 3 2 3 .222 .276 .407 .683 1 0 0 0 0
                                  Adrian Beltre 26 26 9 3 0 1 4 0 6 .346 .346 .577 .923 0 0 0 0 0
                                  Alex Rios 26 23 10 2 1 2 7 3 5 .435 .500 .870 1.370 0 0 1 0 1
                                  Craig Gentry 13 11 4 1 0 0 0 1 0 .364 .417 .455 .871 1 0 0 0 1
                                  David Murphy 12 10 2 1 0 0 2 1 5 .200 .250 .300 .550 0 1 0 0 0
                                  A.J. Pierzynski 12 10 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 .200 .273 .200 .473 1 0 0 1 1
                                  Mitch Moreland 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0
                                  Adam Rosales 5 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .200 .200 .200 .400 0 0 0 0 0
                                  Geovany Soto 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .500 .500 .500 1.000 0 0 0 0 0
                                  Total 164 146 46 9 1 4 20 12 30 .315 .373 .473 .845 3 1 1 2 3
                                  should have saw this before I started typing junker buried
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                                  • snakedrew
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 01-24-13
                                    • 157

                                    #18
                                    O7.5 all day.
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                                    • Sam Odom
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-30-05
                                      • 58063

                                      #19
                                      Game has a lot of hype around it... Too bad it will compete with MNF
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                                      • ebelisle22
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-27-11
                                        • 4726

                                        #20
                                        TB Rays are garbage. texas wins.
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                                        • wagerjunkie
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-24-13
                                          • 4105

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by snakedrew
                                          O7.5 all day.
                                          think so too. Playing first five over 3.5.
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                                          • odog11
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-14-11
                                            • 3874

                                            #22
                                            If you took Texas when it opened around +125 you have a good play. At plus money Texas probably a little value still, but not much.
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