US Airways Giving Passengers of Flight 1549

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  • Willie Bee
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    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #36
    Originally posted by Shortstop
    No they should be thanking the Coast Guard and other rescue workers who really saved their lives.
    Well that's an idea of another group that I'd buy drinks for. But the grace of God, Allah, Buddha, et al saved their keisters. The best thing about this is with the data that's recorded and even some grainy video, they will figure out just how this pilot may have pulled the whole sum'bitch off and start training for better water ditchings. That was the part that came out of that Sioux City crash, damn was that 20 years ago now? They started running that simulation based on the data they had.
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    • Panic
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      • 01-06-08
      • 10367

      #37
      What I like is that the only words the pilot said to the passengers was "Prepare for impact". He didnt come over the intercom in a panic and start freaking out. He was level headed all the way. Doesnt get better than that. The only reason the guy landed in water was because it gave him the best chance to pull it off and because he wouldnt risk people's lives on the ground. That pilot is the fvcking man!
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      • Willie Bee
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-14-06
        • 15726

        #38
        And even he will say they all got luckier than a pig in deep slop.
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        • robmpink
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          • 01-09-07
          • 13205

          #39
          Originally posted by Willie Bee
          Yeah, I'm sure that none of those passengers will trump up their luggage contents and try to squeeze more out of the deal! I can promise you that within three hours of being rescued, ALL of those passengers had at least one passing thought of how much they might get in a lawsuit, some of them jokingly and many dead seriously. That's the society we live in.

          Yeah, no lie, though they probably hadn't had time to get any drinks out on that flight. I miss the days you could board with a cocktail in hand. That five grand would more than cover anything I was carrying with me on a flight, biggest hassle would be replacing a laptop probably. I'd also be inclined to donate some in the name of the pilot to his favorite charity and run a bar tab for my friends at some point to mooch a little from me and remind me how fcuking lucky my fat ass was.
          I didn't know that you meant lie about the luggage. I thought you meant about what happened. I'm not even talking about luggage. I'm talking about suing because of the experience they lived through.
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          • robmpink
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            • 01-09-07
            • 13205

            #40
            Originally posted by Willie Bee
            Yeah, I'm sure that none of those passengers will trump up their luggage contents and try to squeeze more out of the deal! I can promise you that within three hours of being rescued, ALL of those passengers had at least one passing thought of how much they might get in a lawsuit, some of them jokingly and many dead seriously. That's the society we live in.

            Yeah, no lie, though they probably hadn't had time to get any drinks out on that flight. I miss the days you could board with a cocktail in hand. That five grand would more than cover anything I was carrying with me on a flight, biggest hassle would be replacing a laptop probably. I'd also be inclined to donate some in the name of the pilot to his favorite charity and run a bar tab for my friends at some point to mooch a little from me and remind me how fcuking lucky my fat ass was.
            Also, they recovered most, if not all, of the luggage. It is pretty hard to "trump" things up when it was recovered, recorded, and in the process of being cleaned. Of course they could say they had a diamond ring in the suitcase. If it was recovered closed, you may have a problem.
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            • Shortstop
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 01-02-09
              • 27281

              #41
              I guess they couldn't sue for pain and suffering anyhow because there's no liability on the airline's part?
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              • Panic
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-06-08
                • 10367

                #42
                Originally posted by Shortstop
                I guess they couldn't sue for pain and suffering anyhow because there's no liability on the airline's part?
                Where is the liability? Once again, if I riding in a car with you and a earthquake hits and my back gets fvcked up. Can I sue you for pain and anguish?
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                • Bread
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-16-08
                  • 23726

                  #43
                  I think they should sue the geese. All US Air did was save these peoples' lives. The geese were the dicks here.

                  God I hate people.
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                  • Shortstop
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 01-02-09
                    • 27281

                    #44
                    That's my point. There is no liability so what is there to sue about? Nothing. The passengers get $5K, some future upgrades, but most importantly their lives.
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                    • tacomax
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                      • 08-10-05
                      • 9619

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Panic
                      Where is the liability? Once again, if I riding in a car with you and a earthquake hits and my back gets fvcked up. Can I sue you for pain and anguish?
                      Wrong argument. An earthquake would come under an act of god for insurance purposes - that being an occurrence that is outside human power to either cause, prevent, or control. A flock of birds causing the incident is very preventable.
                      Originally posted by pags11
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                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                      Originally posted by curious
                      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                      • Panic
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-06-08
                        • 10367

                        #46
                        Originally posted by tacomax
                        Wrong argument. An earthquake would come under an act of god for insurance purposes - that being an occurrence that is outside human power to either cause, prevent, or control. A flock of birds causing the incident is very preventable.
                        How so? A pellet gun and a crack shot?
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                        • tacomax
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                          • 08-10-05
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Bread
                          I think they should sue the geese. All US Air did was save these peoples' lives. The geese were the dicks here.
                          Originally posted by pags11
                          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                          Originally posted by BuddyBear
                          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                          Originally posted by curious
                          taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                          • tacomax
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                            • 08-10-05
                            • 9619

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Panic
                            How so? A pellet gun and a crack shot?
                            No idea, not in the bird removal business but I'd get someone who knows about it. Similarly, Red Adair would be my first point of contact if I had a oil field fire putting out.

                            The fact is that an earthquake is not preventable, whereas a bird strike is. Surely you can see that.
                            Originally posted by pags11
                            SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                            Originally posted by BuddyBear
                            I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                            Originally posted by curious
                            taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                            • Panic
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-06-08
                              • 10367

                              #49
                              Originally posted by tacomax
                              No idea, not in the bird removal business but I'd get someone who knows about it. Similarly, Red Adair would be my first point of contact if I had a oil field fire putting out.

                              The fact is that an earthquake is not preventable, whereas a bird strike is. Surely you can see that.
                              Not in this instance. Cant see it. If I'm driving a car and a bird flies in front of me, I have a chance to swerve. In this case, no way the plane can swerve out of the way.
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                              • Willie Bee
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-14-06
                                • 15726

                                #50
                                Originally posted by robmpink
                                Also, they recovered most, if not all, of the luggage. It is pretty hard to "trump" things up when it was recovered, recorded, and in the process of being cleaned. Of course they could say they had a diamond ring in the suitcase. If it was recovered closed, you may have a problem.
                                I'll stick with my original comment which really was to agree with Panic that at least some, if not many, of these folks will wind up getting more than that out of the deal for their luggage losses. And if they can't sue for more on their luggage, they'll sue for more somewhere else.
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                                • Immortality
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-20-07
                                  • 4599

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by robmpink
                                  Ok, so what you are saying is if people sue they won't win anything more than what is being offered? If so, you are out of your mind. I'm sure you could hold someone responsible. There is an experimental radar at one of the NYC airports that spots birds. I guess it wasn't this one.



                                  Yeah they might get more when they sue because idiots like you will be on the jury thinking they are entitled to millions of dollars. So sad and disgusting how so many people in this country want things for free.
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                                  • curious
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                                    • 07-20-07
                                    • 9093

                                    #52
                                    I was on Flight 1549

                                    My luggage consisted of two suitcases filled with platinum bars currently trading at $973.00 per ounce. I had bought a commodities futures contract on platinum and I forgot to renew it so I had to go to NY to pick up my platinum bars.



                                    I'm putting in a claim for my 200 pounds of platinum bars.
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                                    • tacomax
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                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 9619

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Panic
                                      Not in this instance. Cant see it.
                                      You can't see that an earthquake is preventable but a bird strike is? Do you at least concede that an earthquake is not preventable at all? I hope so.

                                      Now look at the bird strike - if all the birds within a 10 mile radius of the airport were destroyed, would this accident have happened in the way it did? If you think so, then let's kill all birds - would the accident then have happened in the way it did? Of course it wouldn't - so the bird strike is preventable.

                                      Originally posted by Panic
                                      If I'm driving a car and a bird flies in front of me, I have a chance to swerve. In this case, no way the plane can swerve out of the way.
                                      You're now backing my argument.

                                      You said you can't avoid an earthquake but can swerve out of the way of a bird. So a bird strike on a car can be seen to be preventable - exactly the same as in an aircraft (but in the aircraft, the option of swerving isn't there but the option of preventative actions is).
                                      Originally posted by pags11
                                      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                      Originally posted by curious
                                      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82897

                                        #54
                                        Why don't they equip planes with .50 caliber machine guns like a WWII B-27 bomber and shoot down enemy birds? Then no lawsuits can happen.
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                                        • robmpink
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                                          • 01-09-07
                                          • 13205

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Immortality


                                          Yeah they might get more when they sue because idiots like you will be on the jury thinking they are entitled to millions of dollars. So sad and disgusting how so many people in this country want things for free.
                                          Get out if the hole you live in. Idiots like me? You sound like you have a high school education and are oblivious to the way the world runs. I bet you are mister high morals, yet you are probably banging your own cousin.
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                                          • tacomax
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                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 9619

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by curious
                                            My luggage consisted of two suitcases filled with platinum bars currently trading at $973.00 per ounce.
                                            Wow - so you were on the plane?

                                            That story fits right in there with you accomplished war record and you 25 year old wife. Unreal.
                                            Originally posted by pags11
                                            SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                            Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                            I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                            Originally posted by curious
                                            taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                            • crisp
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-02-08
                                              • 1377

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Shortstop
                                              $5,000 each to compensate for their lost luggage.

                                              That would barely cover the price of one of my suits.

                                              US Airways is a bunch of cheap bastards.
                                              lol look at all these guys who pretend to have money. its hysterical
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                                              • tacomax
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                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 9619

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                Why don't they equip planes with .50 caliber machine guns like a WWII B-27 bomber and shoot down enemy birds? Then no lawsuits can happen.
                                                Probably the same reason why any number of potential aircraft safety features are not implemented.
                                                Originally posted by pags11
                                                SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                Originally posted by curious
                                                taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                                • Panic
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-06-08
                                                  • 10367

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by tacomax
                                                  You can't see that an earthquake is preventable but a bird strike is? Do you at least concede that an earthquake is not preventable at all? I hope so.

                                                  Now look at the bird strike - if all the birds within a 10 mile radius of the airport were destroyed, would this accident have happened in the way it did? If you think so, then let's kill all birds - would the accident then have happened in the way it did? Of course it wouldn't - so the bird strike is preventable.



                                                  You're now backing my argument.

                                                  You said you can't avoid an earthquake but can swerve out of the way of a bird. So a bird strike on a car can be seen to be preventable - exactly the same as in an aircraft (but in the aircraft, the option of swerving isn't there but the option of preventative actions is).
                                                  Taco, I'm with ya. But where is the line drawn between probable and improbable? I would say a plane has the same amount of chance of prevention against a lightning strike as a flock of birds. But yet, one is an act of God and one is not. Would you agree or not? If someone can predict when a flock of birds is going to take flight and impact a plane engine, I want them to pick games for me.
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                                                  • robmpink
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-09-07
                                                    • 13205

                                                    #60
                                                    See, what is funny here is that no one experienced what happened. Everyone has high morals here. Then you start to see people who sue and get more money. Then the majority of high moral people have a change of mind and want their due share. Mr. high moral people, you are in the minority. Half the "high moral" people on here will rat on their own family for a free play so stfu.
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                                                    • tullamore
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-17-07
                                                      • 3586

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      Why don't they equip planes with .50 caliber machine guns like a WWII B-27 bomber and shoot down enemy birds? Then no lawsuits can happen.
                                                      I love to see all the animal rights wackos protesting about this idea.
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                                                      • pavyracer
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                        • 82897

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by tacomax
                                                        Probably the same reason why any number of potential aircraft safety features are not implemented.
                                                        Taco,

                                                        Have you ever heard of a military plane hit birds in the engine? No. Twin rotary machine guns and sidewinder missiles will shoot any enemy geese approaching aircraft.
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                                                        • Mac4Lyfe
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-04-09
                                                          • 48625

                                                          #63
                                                          I'm sure PETA is going to sue USAir as well... LOL

                                                          I flew USScare a few years ago and the right engine blew up due to bad O-rings (common problem). The plane did a 90 degree half flip and everyone on board was scared chitless. The pilot was able to right the plane and make an emergency landing back to Charlotte. The airline offered us nothing but a reroute on a different airline. Not even an apology. Only 3 of us (out of about 100) got on another plane that day. The rest was so shook up that they all decided against it.

                                                          This one event scarred me for life. I absolutely hate flying now (I use to love it) and i can't get out of my mind the loud explosion followed by a fire ball and the plane tipping over. Everytime I'm on a plane today I'm taking back through that experience and the feeling of helplessness. It is very real and terrifying.

                                                          Regardless of fault it is in poor taste to offer these passengers a stupid upgrade. That is little consequence to the fear some of them will have for the rest of their lives.
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                                                          • pico
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 04-05-07
                                                            • 27321

                                                            #64
                                                            usair sucks. i would try to get vouchers for singapore airlines.
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