Do online books pay posters to post expected LOSING PLAYS?

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  • fearless
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    • 08-14-06
    • 4950

    #1
    Do online books pay posters to post expected LOSING PLAYS?
    It seems very plausible to me. If the books are getting too much action on one side of a game they can send people to pump up the opposite side. Or if books have a strong opinion about a game they can have people come here and pump up the side the books want to fade and/or try to drive people away from taking the side the book's like.

    I feel this is probably happening. Any thoughts?
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  • betplom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-06
    • 13444

    #2
    Originally posted by fearless
    It seems very plausible to me. If the books are getting too much action on one side of a game they can send people to pump up the opposite side. Or if books have a strong opinion about a game they can have people come here and pump up the side the books want to fade and/or try to drive people away from taking the side the book's like.

    I feel this is probably happening. Any thoughts?

    If books are getting too much one sided action they usually move the line/spread or they can lay it off using other bookmakers. Problem solved
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    • reno cool
      SBR MVP
      • 07-02-08
      • 3567

      #3
      no, but don't give em any ideas.

      all we need is more bullshit locks on here.

      Especially since I'm working on a system which utilizes SBR poster picks.

      1-0 so far
      bird bird da bird's da word
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      • RogueJuror
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-08-08
        • 10010

        #4
        fearless you are overestimating the reach of this forum.

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        • pico
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 04-05-07
          • 27321

          #5
          Originally posted by RogueJuror
          fearless you are overestimating the reach of this forum.


          only crazy people read the player section
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          • fearless
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            • 08-14-06
            • 4950

            #6
            Originally posted by RogueJuror
            fearless you are overestimating the reach of this forum.
            Players Talk (1683 Viewing)

            Sportsbooks & The Industry (380 Viewing)
            Handicapper Think Tank (78 Viewing)
            NFL Handicapping (207 Viewing)




            College Football Handicapping (93 Viewing)
            NBA Basketball Handicapping (651 Viewing)
            NCAA Basketball Handicapping (785 Viewing)

            On and on. It looks like a huge reach.
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            • Cloak & Dagger
              SBR MVP
              • 11-15-07
              • 4781

              #7
              Originally posted by fearless
              It seems very plausible to me. If the books are getting too much action on one side of a game they can send people to pump up the opposite side. Or if books have a strong opinion about a game they can have people come here and pump up the side the books want to fade and/or try to drive people away from taking the side the book's like.

              I feel this is probably happening. Any thoughts?
              I know for a FACT Pimike AND crazyl have done this for CW before...

              I made a mini fortune going against what pimike posted as his 'pick' during the baseball season

              crazyl also tried to do it last night when he told me to bet the LAC moneyline when I had the Blazers -10.5
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              • fearless
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                • 08-14-06
                • 4950

                #8
                Originally posted by Cloak & Dagger
                I know for a FACT Pimike AND crazyl have done this for CW before...
                I knew it was happening. Absolutely.
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                • CS-Cedrick
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-10-09
                  • 1578

                  #9
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                  • RogueJuror
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-08-08
                    • 10010

                    #10
                    That 1683 viewing figure is not entirely accurate.

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                    • jayc88
                      Restricted User
                      • 12-30-07
                      • 6785

                      #11


                      You really think the books know who is going to win ??
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                      • CS-Cedrick
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-10-09
                        • 1578

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jayc88


                        You really think the books know who is going to win ??
                        Besides, do you think they're going to pay some extra cash just for us to influence bettors? Just tell me where and I might work for them and start posting shit instead of my plays.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          LOL

                          No one knows who is going to win that is why all gamblers are broke
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                          • jayc88
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-30-07
                            • 6785

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            LOL

                            No one knows who is going to win that is why all gamblers are broke

                            jj i'm not broke ,
                            actually i had no loosing month since oktober , but i'm mainly betting smaller sports .
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                            • sickler
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-05-08
                              • 15006

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cloak & Dagger
                              I know for a FACT Pimike AND crazyl have done this for CW before...

                              I made a mini fortune going against what pimike posted as his 'pick' during the baseball season

                              crazyl also tried to do it last night when he told me to bet the LAC moneyline when I had the Blazers -10.5


                              Your conspiracy theories make for good entertainment.

                              What's your take on the JFK assassination and alien coverup at Roswell?
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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Cloak & Dagger
                                I know for a FACT Pimike AND crazyl have done this for CW before...

                                I made a mini fortune going against what pimike posted as his 'pick' during the baseball season
                                $10 or $15?
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                                • ZBOIZ
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-22-08
                                  • 21464

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fearless
                                  It seems very plausible to me. If the books are getting too much action on one side of a game they can send people to pump up the opposite side. Or if books have a strong opinion about a game they can have people come here and pump up the side the books want to fade and/or try to drive people away from taking the side the book's like.

                                  I feel this is probably happening. Any thoughts?
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                                  • Bread
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-16-08
                                    • 23726

                                    #18
                                    Sacramento Kings Moneyline tonight!! Guaranteed Lock!!!

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                                    • BestPlay2day
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-25-08
                                      • 5794

                                      #19
                                      They can't pick winners themselves so how can they post losers knowing that they will win? I would hope people posting picks are putting wagers on their posted picks and not the opposite. That's why it's best to do the research yourself and bet the games you like.
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                                      • Mudcat
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 07-21-05
                                        • 9287

                                        #20
                                        Very far-fetched. If books are concerned about unbalanced action or they want a specific side because of capping reasons, it is a lot more direct and efficient to place action at another exchange or book than post something on a forum and hope that enough people see it and care about what they are seeing and have 10 bucks to their name and happen to have an account at your book and place a wager at your book over their other outs.

                                        By the time this drip-down forum process had any possible effect, the line may have moved 3 times and the game may have changed completely.

                                        The word I would use is: cockamamie.
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                                        • fearless
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                                          • 08-14-06
                                          • 4950

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Mudcat
                                          Very far-fetched. If books are concerned about unbalanced action or they want a specific side because of capping reasons, it is a lot more direct and efficient to place action at another exchange or book than post something on a forum and hope that enough people see it and care about what they are seeing and have 10 bucks to their name and happen to have an account at your book and place a wager at your book over their other outs.

                                          By the time this drip-down forum process had any possible effect, the line may have moved 3 times and the game may have changed completely.

                                          The word I would use is: cockamamie.
                                          The books could work together and pay a couple of people to post. You're probably right though.
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                                          • wild willy
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-20-08
                                            • 1298

                                            #22
                                            Cloak & dagger I really hope that the aqusations against Pimike and crazyl are not true. for if they are I would be pretty disipointed in both of them.This forum is dedicated to beating the books not working with them. I pearsonally don't know any of the two mentioned to give my opion on if they do or don't. Lets hope nobody on here is as snakey to do such a thing.
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                                            • Willie Bee
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-14-06
                                              • 15726

                                              #23
                                              Funny stuff here.
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                                              • SBR Lou
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-02-07
                                                • 37863

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by wild willy
                                                Cloak & dagger I really hope that the aqusations against Pimike and crazyl are not true. for if they are I would be pretty disipointed in both of them.This forum is dedicated to beating the books not working with them. I pearsonally don't know any of the two mentioned to give my opion on if they do or don't. Lets hope nobody on here is as snakey to do such a thing.
                                                Wild Willy,

                                                I have never posted plays on behalf of any sportsbook.
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                                                • wild willy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-20-08
                                                  • 1298

                                                  #25
                                                  I dide'nt think you would from your posts I'v read it sounds like your Joe regular like the rest of us.
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                                                  • Mudcat
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 07-21-05
                                                    • 9287

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fearless
                                                    The books could work together and pay a couple of people to post. You're probably right though.

                                                    I suppose they could. I think you just have a higher opinion of forums than me.

                                                    So suppose a book sends a couple guys to post a play - and they have paid their posting dues and generated a reputation so their opinions makes a ripple. On any given bet, there are probably a couple forum guys posting DAILY GAME-OF-THE-YEAR LOCKS OF A LIFETIME on the other side.

                                                    Is that a situation I really want to make some kind of business plan around?

                                                    I dunno. Honestly, if I worked at a book, I would just be laughing at the forums.
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                                                    • wild willy
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-20-08
                                                      • 1298

                                                      #27
                                                      Mud cat you are very wise.
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                                                      • Richkas
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-03-08
                                                        • 19396

                                                        #28
                                                        I get paid every now and then when a certain book instructs me to.
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                                                        • SlickFazzer
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-22-08
                                                          • 20209

                                                          #29
                                                          silly thread.
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                                                          • Dark Horse
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-14-05
                                                            • 13764

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by fearless
                                                            It seems very plausible to me. If the books are getting too much action on one side of a game they can send people to pump up the opposite side. Or if books have a strong opinion about a game they can have people come here and pump up the side the books want to fade and/or try to drive people away from taking the side the book's like.

                                                            I feel this is probably happening. Any thoughts?
                                                            There are far simpler ways for books to take a side, if they wanted to do so.
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                                                            • smitch124
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-19-08
                                                              • 12566

                                                              #31
                                                              If I could post conistently losing plays, why would I need a book to pay me?? I'd just bet the house on the other side...
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                                                              • Tchocky
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-14-06
                                                                • 2371

                                                                #32
                                                                This is an interesting question. You should poll the books.
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                                                                • SlickFazzer
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-22-08
                                                                  • 20209

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by smitch124
                                                                  If I could post conistently losing plays, why would I need a book to pay me?? I'd just bet the house on the other side...
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                                                                  • topgame85
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-30-08
                                                                    • 12325

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Last summer when I was hitting huge % on mlb totals I would go to cw 10-15 after posting and they would have shifted the line or the juice I don't know if this is because sbr folks went and bet them or if they saw it and shifted the line because they were confident in my 65%-70% total capping
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                                                                    • reno cool
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-02-08
                                                                      • 3567

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mudcat
                                                                      Very far-fetched. If books are concerned about unbalanced action or they want a specific side because of capping reasons, it is a lot more direct and efficient to place action at another exchange or book than post something on a forum and hope that enough people see it and care about what they are seeing and have 10 bucks to their name and happen to have an account at your book and place a wager at your book over their other outs.

                                                                      By the time this drip-down forum process had any possible effect, the line may have moved 3 times and the game may have changed completely.

                                                                      The word I would use is: cockamamie.
                                                                      sounds like US economic policy
                                                                      bird bird da bird's da word
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