Jazzbet Looselines??

[SSLP]

It has come to my attention that many ex workers from looselines.com have been stalled as well as players from their monies in an unhonest fashion to say the least.

Hopefully Looselines now Jazzbet will help these guys out since it seems Looselines old owners ran for the hills.

I am confident that an A rated book Jazz will help these players and employees out when they took over the brand.

This is just and update

[bigboydan]

Thanks for the info sir. However I would like to point out that Jazz is only a "B" rated book here at SBR.

[SSLP]

PHUCK BBD , you always mess with my glory.

I am just tired of us getting the shaft as well , not only the players get stiffed sometimes . It has happened to me before that i get the shitty end of the deal in a book.

Looselines seemed like a good place but I guess they were just taking to many hits.

The guys at Jazz have always been good though , so im sure people will get their money

[purecarnagge]

I had an agent contact me via email regarding his plans to leave when the ownership was announced to him he's recruiting me for a new book with same promotions that he offered before.

Jazzbet is a joke, I call and they offer me shitty bonus, and no free payout... They bought Looselines and won't even process a free payout...yet that was the promotion people deposited under.

[bigboydan]

PHUCK BBD , you always mess with my glory.

I am just tired of us getting the shaft as well , not only the players get stiffed sometimes . It has happened to me before that i get the shitty end of the deal in a book.

Looselines seemed like a good place but I guess they were just taking to many hits.

The guys at Jazz have always been good though , so im sure people will get their money

Don't blame me sir.

I hope Jazz cleans up the mess for everyone's sake, which I have no doubt they most likely will.

[The General]

The guy managing looselines got in over his head with to much other chit going on and lack of talent in the sports book arena I think. He's a good guy, but he got overwhelmed IMO. Other big ventures he was better at plus losing money to fast with a lack of patience in the sports business led to a small clusterfuk that will be cleared up I believe as Jazz gets all of the situation under control. Just my thoughts from what I know of the ordeal and talking with people who knew what happened.

[JELLYBEAN]

The guy managing looselines got in over his head with to much other chit going on and lack of talent in the sports book arena I think. He's a good guy, but he got overwhelmed IMO. Other big ventures he was better at plus losing money to fast with a lack of patience in the sports business led to a small clusterfuk that will be cleared up I believe as Jazz gets all of the situation under control. Just my thoughts from what I know of the ordeal and talking with people who knew what happened.

I said this a week ago. Russ ****ed up. It aint a secret

[Bill Dozer]

Jazz backed LL the whole time. It was more of a label that former BetRuss owners were able to get creative with and use their own sales guys. The internal changes somehow became news but players shouldn't have noticed much outside of the reduced juice going away when BetRuss came in. The BetRuss staff and mgt. had an existing relationship with mgt and I'm not sure they ever did business with Jazz directly. If someone thinks Jazz owes them we'd be happy to field it.

[poetwarrior41]

Thanks for the info sir. However I would like to point out that Jazz is only a "B" rated book here at SBR.

MMMMM let get this straight Danny Boy.....Jazz is no good, but the crooks at Betonline are good? The same guys that ran NASA are now running betonline, last time i checked Jazz has never stiffed anyone, they have been paying like a slot machine for 10 years now.

[durito]

DPT (jazz) has always owned loose lines.

i don't know what you people are talking about

[Mudcat]

DPT (jazz) has always owned loose lines.

i don't know what you people are talking about

It is reassuring to see I'm not the only one thinking that.

[SSLP]

i second that , Jazz is a good book .

I still have yet to understand some of the hidden mystery behind the SBR ratings . Big reason why i havent come around lately.

I respect all the guys from SBR and give them kudos for trying to help players out , but maybe they should help the local employees once in a while.

[purecarnagge]

I'm not saying Jazz steals from people. But they were already in a business relationship with looselines. They formally took over operations of Looselines... Now they won't process my 1x per month free payout...

And SSLP wants to bitch about there rating? Fix my fuking problem first, then bitch about your rating. You bought a company that had promotions going on...you were fully aware of those promotions. Honor them you dumb fuks

[SSLP]

I'm not saying Jazz steals from people. But they were already in a business relationship with looselines. They formally took over operations of Looselines... Now they won't process my 1x per month free payout...

And SSLP wants to bitch about there rating? Fix my fuking problem first, then bitch about your rating. You bought a company that had promotions going on...you were fully aware of those promotions. Honor them you dumb fuks

i am not bitching about their rating , im actually hoping Jazz will pay players as well as employees .

[purecarnagge]

well why should jazz pay looselines employees? I mean thats something looselines should have taken care before they sold.

[SSLP]

well why should jazz pay looselines employees? I mean thats something looselines should have taken care before they sold.

Jazz took over the brand , so dont pay employees and pay you?

You really are a piece of work , then again we all knew that

[jjgold]

Jazz has always had a sketchy past with money

[durito]

well why should jazz pay looselines employees? I mean thats something looselines should have taken care before they sold.

THERE WAS NO SALE

DPT Has owned Jazz and Looselines since they were started. Period.

[purecarnagge]

Okay before you all paint me as a 100% true asshole... (its only 99%)

If you bought a brand and weren't keeping there employee's on why would you pay them for something they should have been paid for and given severnce or told this is your last day and your check here you go.

Just cuz you bought something doesn't mean your suppose to make up for past sins... I mean if the people were let go they were let go...if they weren't let go they should have had to fill out paperwork to continue to stay on at Jazz

[durito]

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5/19/2008 11:25 AM
looselines lowered from B to B- 5/19/2008 10:42 AM
BetRuss (SBR rating C-) accounts acquired by DPT Sports Group

BetRuss.com now redirects to looselines (SBR rating B-). looselines is a part of the group of sites that include better known B rated books ABCislands and Jazz Sports. BetRuss management tells SBR that the decision to move under looselines was made because the BetRuss brand and its marketing team was "fighting an uphill battle" due to the stigma of the Absolute Poker controversy. BetRuss was founded by a former Absolute Poker manager. looselines will be financially backed by DPT Sports but operate independently with its own lines and management. looselines will move from the -108 lineset that was offered until today to BetRuss standard -110 vig. Bettors who were using looselines prior to today will be able to use the -108 lineset by accessing their accounts through ABCislands. looselines, which will focus on recreational players, has been lowered to B- as it adapts to the BetRuss staff and operating policies. looselines management tells SBR that the migration was already completed in the middle of the night.

8/16/2007 11:43 AM
looselines, Jazz & ABCislands lowered from B+ to B

3/6/2007 01:47 PM
looselines upgraded from B to B+

2/22/2007 04:33 PM
ABCislands (SBR rating B+) JazzSports (SBR rating B+) and looselines (SBR rating B) scheduled to be taken off-line at 9pm PST until 4am PST tomorrow for system maintenance.

6/16/2005 02:21 AM
DPT Sports Group (ABCIslands, Jazz and looselines) experiences major hardware crash. Management tells SBR that players who have made wagers in the last 24 hours should call (888) 632 - 8890 to confirm pending plays. DPT expects to have the database rebuilt and utilizing backup data within 24 hours. Internet wagering is currently down and is expected to be available later this morning.

[RonPaul2008]

Those who had reduced juice when they stopped offering it are still getting it.

Jazz backed LL the whole time. It was more of a label that former BetRuss owners were able to get creative with and use their own sales guys. The internal changes somehow became news but players shouldn't have noticed much outside of the reduced juice going away when BetRuss came in. The BetRuss staff and mgt. had an existing relationship with mgt and I'm not sure they ever did business with Jazz directly. If someone thinks Jazz owes them we'd be happy to field it.

[bigboydan]

Those who had reduced juice when they stopped offering it are still getting it.

The players were grandfathered into that program after the format changed and the offer was withdrawn.

[Frank]

My memo in my acct says that lines will change to -110 in about 2 weeks.

As of now 16 cent line in NBA and 10 cent line in college hoops.

[purecarnagge]

Actually I don't care if the sportsbook pays its employee's... WTF has an employee done for me to help me resolve issues... they get paid to act like ignorant dumbasses for hours on end and book bets. Which all they are doing is using the online client. I mean its a fuking joke... Those who are account managers and are good are few and far inbetween. Its that simple.

The average employee prob hates his job, and there attitudes definately reflect that.

[DwightShrute]

I worked sales for Jazzbet, looselines and Betruss and prior I worked with another Book that the current Jazzbet owner ran. So take it from the horses mouth, the #1 thing that you should know is, if you play at Jazzbet, you will always get paid. Period! I seen first hand the way they run things and treat their players. Big Jim is their best salesman by far and he will treat you right.

The best thing to happen to Looselines was Jazzbet taking over things.

Russ at looselines/Betruss was the Ryan Leaf of sportsbook owners. KARMA baby! Let's leave it at that!

[purecarnagge]

Yeah ill get paid minus your bogus fee's cuz you won't honor the 1x free wd option available...from looselines...the promotions I deposited under.

[St.Aquinas]

Jazz has always had a sketchy past with money

BS JJ. Its the other way around. Jazz is solid financially and has always been.

[purecarnagge]

BS JJ. Its the other way around. Jazz is solid financially and has always been.

Doesn't mean they haven't taken shots at players and ran there company like an A book

[St.Aquinas]

Doesn't mean they haven't taken shots at players and ran there company like an A book

When in the last 10 years?

i get it...your helping your buddy JJ out. That's nice.

Jazz takes "sharp" and "square" action Carnagge.

Tell everyone at SBR the last time or any time Jazzsports has taken a shot at players? You can't.

Jazzsports deserves an A rating.

[St.Aquinas]

I worked sales for Jazzbet, looselines and Betruss and prior I worked with another Book that the current Jazzbet owner ran. So take it from the horses mouth, the #1 thing that you should know is, if you play at Jazzbet, you will always get paid. Period! I seen first hand the way they run things and treat their players. Big Jim is their best salesman by far and he will treat you right.

The best thing to happen to Looselines was Jazzbet taking over things.

Russ at looselines/Betruss was the Ryan Leaf of sportsbook owners. KARMA baby! Let's leave it at that!

The Ryan Leaf of sportsbook owners...

Nice one BIG JIM!

[purecarnagge]

Personally, Jazz Customer service is a joke. There fee's to wd which I previously never had to pay 1 month free wd is a joke. They won't even let me close out my balance, without paying some bogus ** fee.

80.00 to withdrawal under 250.00?

[DwightShrute]

OK, Jazzbet isn't perfect. Perhaps the payout fees aren't the greatest and they have a couple shady characters in the sales department. Having Jazz on your resume is a great thing, as the ownership and management are well respected and personally speaking, you don't get any better.

Mention any personal association with a couple current salespeople at Jazzbet would be like a financial planner having Bernard Madoff as a character reference. a detriment to say the least.

Overall, 2 thumbs up

[bigboydan]

Jazz takes "sharp"

Indeed they do sir.

I just wish more books would post their rules about professional players on there websites like they do. I mean if you get cut off from one of there sister sites, you can still play at Jazz.

[purecarnagge]

after today when I see what my final balance is... I have future bets from week 14 at looselines... I think its bogus to charge that much when the book i was at was giving free wd 1x per month pisses me off.

[durito]

Let me try and clear things up here.

DPT is a Costa Rica based company that owns several land casinos and resorts throughout the country. For at least a decade now they have operated 3 online books (Jazz, ABCIslands, and LooseLines). LooseLInes was their reduced juice skin for many years now. They have always been solid, they have a large credit network and a solid company behind them -- ie they aren't just going to disappear. As with many books, they've had payout delays since the loss of neteller to the usa. In fact they got downgraded because of this to B from B+ -- curious since I don't see that WSEX downgrade coming even though checks are taking 8 weeks.

Earlier this year, for whatever reason, they decided to merge the looselines brand with a new book run by idiots BetRuss. They got rid of the reduced juice and made the brand a big bonus type book for recreational players. BetRuss mgmt took over, but the book was still backed by DPT. Obviously this didn't work out and the BetRuss people bailed and DPT had to take back over. I am assuming the employees let go were all formerly from BetRuss and the BetRuss people who took off where probably supposed to pay them. So now the book is back to where it started as a DPT brand. I have no idea if they are keeping it or getting rid of it since BBD keeps posting nonsense -- yet the looslines webpage is still taking deposits.

Also, Jazzbet is a new DPT skin for recreational players that they've started this year. Perhaps this is what they plan to do with the looselines/betruss players and get rid of looselines, i don't know, the webpage design is just like looselines. This is not the same book as Jazz which takes professionals as already mentioned.