Brad Stevens leaving Butler to become Celtics new coach

[El Nino]

Guy is set up to fail. -EV He doesn't make it to 6 years.

[EaglesPhan36]

Six years? Pitino made it two his first go around. The only reason I think he gets two is because Boston tore the roster down and is basically giving him nothing to start with, so he can go 10-72 and no one will think much of it.

[El Nino]

Six years? Pitino made it two his first go around. The only reason I think he gets two is because Boston tore the roster down and is basically giving him nothing to start with, so he can go 10-72 and no one will think much of it.

Deal was 6 years...only reason I said that. Celtics cannot expect anything from this upcoming season. Lots of pressure to win on the East Coast. Just seems like a bad fit.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Guy is set up to fail. -EV He doesn't make it to 6 years.

6 years?

you kidding me?

i say he won't last 3.

[detroitlionsfan]

Guy was a legendary college coach

Hope he does well at next lvl

[El Nino]

6 years?

you kidding me?

i say he won't last 3.

Nor do I. Read Post #38

[EaglesPhan36]

Deal was 6 years...only reason I said that. Celtics cannot expect anything from this upcoming season. Lots of pressure to win on the East Coast. Just seems like a bad fit.

Eh deals don't mean dikk as evidenced by Stevens deal with Butler. Probably a buyout in there for both sides and I'm guessing one of them will use it at some point. Very odd hire, but what else do you expect from Danny Ainge.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

for a smart dude he made a stupid decision.

[TheMoneyShot]

Seems like a coach that could only teach college kids. Like... 18-22 year old mentality. His coaching style won't work with 26-34 year olds.

And honestly... a Boston management move like this clearly says 1 thing... RECONSTRUCTION.

What happens when you reconstruct? Sh#$... could take 10 years for Boston to be Boston again. Coach won't last 3 full seasons. Lucky to get thru 2 seasons.

[InTheDrink]

for a smart dude he made a stupid decision.

maybe you should be his advisor

[Salmon Steak]

Stevens is like Pop. They just had a pretty good season. Is he tough enough for the NBA though... and Boston fans. I think Boston got a great coach. I'm not sure he can handle character issues though. He will need to get a bunch of Duncan/Ginobili types.

[Louisvillekid1]

Guys, as much as I hate this, anybody in his situation would of done the same thing. I mean we are talking a top 3/4 NBA Franchise here. Even if he fails he can fall back on a Duke, UNC, UL, type job. As a College Hoops fan I hate it, but It's not like he took a job for the Kings...

[Ralphie Halves]

The few people that like the move say that other college coaches stepped into really bad and fruitless situations and had no chance. I don't see how this is all that different. It's not like Boston is on the cusp of greatness.

[2daBank]

he won't win dik for Boston. Epic failure coming.

umm, no one would win dik in bos. that being the case how is him losing any more a failure than whoever else they would hire?

[2daBank]

The few people that like the move say that other college coaches stepped into really bad and fruitless situations and had no chance. I don't see how this is all that different. It's not like Boston is on the cusp of greatness.

pretty much, guy has no chance and has nothing to do with him. nobody would win in bos the next 3 years, there a reason doc was jumping like the building was on fire..

[TheMoneyShot]

umm, no one would win dik in bos. that being the case how is him losing any more a failure than whoever else they would hire?

From a credential standpoint you wouldn't want a 25-57 record on your resume. No matter what you did in college. Once the losses start piling up... people forget the success you once had. Becomes a memory.

[2daBank]

From a credential standpoint you wouldn't want a 25-57 record on your resume. No matter what you did in college. Once the losses start piling up... people forget the success you once had. Becomes a memory.

not really, he flames out in 3 years he have a primo ncaa job the minute he wants it.. no one gonna hold this against him and im sure he making bank..

[Mr KLC]

Perfect circumstance for Stevens, especially if they trade Rondo. I agree with this being similar to Pops and the Spurs situation. With younger players, Stevens is more likely to get the players' ears, and it gives him a couple of years to try and grow into the NBA job. If it doesn't work out, he's labeled a college only coach, and he'll have a job waiting for him somewhere. This is a dream for a guy like him, going from a mid major to one of the premier jobs in all of basketball. I hope it has a fairy tale ending for him because he definitely has class.

[dfish]

Perfect circumstance for Stevens, especially if they trade Rondo. I agree with this being similar to Pops and the Spurs situation. With younger players, Stevens is more likely to get the players' ears, and it gives him a couple of years to try and grow into the NBA job. If it doesn't work out, he's labeled a college only coach, and he'll have a job waiting for him somewhere. This is a dream for a guy like him, going from a mid major to one of the premier jobs in all of basketball. I hope it has a fairy tale ending for him because he definitely has class.

Agree with you ,huge C's fan really like the move.Hopefully they can get it going in 3yrs.or so.
Pressure is on Danny,Stevens really can't lose in this situation .

[InTheDrink]

not really, he flames out in 3 years he have a primo ncaa job the minute he wants it.. no one gonna hold this against him and im sure he making bank..

agreed

there are plenty of people who dont even remember cal or pitino in the pros

[Louisvillekid1]

For the posters that are saying he can only teach kids:

If he can develop players like Matt Howard, Shelvin Mack, & Gordon Haywood, just imagine what he can do with NBA Talent.

Not to mention he has top 3 PG in the game, and a ton of upcoming Draft Picks.

[InTheDrink]

For the posters that are saying he can only teach kids:

If he can develop players like Matt Howard, Shelvin Mack, & Gordon Haywood, just imagine what he can do with NBA Talent.

Not to mention he has top 3 PG in the game, and a ton of upcoming Draft Picks.

nba isnt really as much about teaching as it is motivating and managing

not saying he cant do it but it's very different

[Ratpack]

hey its starting to work in the nfl maybe he might be the trailblazer and the college coach can start being successful in the nba

[face]

should at least be interesting. but are the celtics gonna tank for a shot at wiggins next season anyway? or is that just media stuff

[ChalkyDog]

nba isnt really as much about teaching as it is motivating and managing

not saying he cant do it but it's very different

I don't disagree with you, but for conversations sake - do you think Calipari would be much more successful if he were to make the jump again? Most people, including myself, see Cal as more of a talent manager than a coaching tactician/x and o guy.

[Speedy88]

Wow a lot of ppl expecting Stevens to fail here. Bos will be patient with him, they don't expect to win right off the bat. As long as they see improvement on a year to year basis he won't be on the hot seat.

Just because Pitino and other college bball coaches have failed before doesn't mean Stevens will fail. I just remember everyone on the NFL forums saying Pete Carrol would fail in Seattle and now look where the Seahawks are at.

[tony_come]

Too young

He will fail

[Ghenghis Kahn]

maybe you should be his advisor

i would've done it for 1% of his salary and told his ass to stay put if he knew what was good for him.

[2daBank]

I don't disagree with you, but for conversations sake - do you think Calipari would be much more successful if he were to make the jump again? Most people, including myself, see Cal as more of a talent manager than a coaching tactician/x and o guy.

sure if he jumps to a team like the heat. i mean that the whole thing, the only way to win in the nba is to have a select few superstars on your team, coaching really doesnt mean jack shit until this is the case then maybe a coach makes a few differences but ultimately if you aint got big time players in the nba you not winning shit. cal wins in college in spite of his coaching, he wins because of his recruiting.

[2daBank]

Wow a lot of ppl expecting Stevens to fail here. Bos will be patient with him, they don't expect to win right off the bat. As long as they see improvement on a year to year basis he won't be on the hot seat.

Just because Pitino and other college bball coaches have failed before doesn't mean Stevens will fail. I just remember everyone on the NFL forums saying Pete Carrol would fail in Seattle and now look where the Seahawks are at.

nfl and nba not the same, nfl is set up for everyone to have a chance, nba you only have a chance if you have big time superstar players and there aint many...not saying dude will fail cause he incompetent, he will fail cause he doesnt have a team of superstars to work with..how long you think the leash gonna be in bos? sure they wont crucify him in yr 1 but yrs 2 and 3 if they aint in the playoffs you think the fan base is gonna tolerate that? who you think is gonna be the 1st fall guy? it always the coach..

[Speedy88]

nfl and nba not the same, nfl is set up for everyone to have a chance, nba you only have a chance if you have big time superstar players and there aint many...not saying dude will fail cause he incompetent, he will fail cause he doesnt have a team of superstars to work with..how long you think the leash gonna be in bos? sure they wont crucify him in yr 1 but yrs 2 and 3 if they aint in the playoffs you think the fan base is gonna tolerate that? who you think is gonna be the 1st fall guy? it always the coach..

I know NBA and NFL are very different. NBA much harder to go from nothing to something. However, Boston will have a chance to get good, it's a big market and they will attract FA's. But you're right, leash will be short. Leash is pretty short for most NBA coaches. I think they'll give him about 2-3 years. As long as Ainge see's the team moving in the right direction I think he'll stay. That's a big IF though.

I think Stevens will do better than most people on here think.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

I think Stevens will do better than most people on here think.

only positive thing is boston will eventually have a young roster.

if stevens can make these young players believe in his philosophy, he has a shot.

i mean if mark jackson can do it, why can't anyone else right?

[2daBank]

only positive thing is boston will eventually have a young roster.

if stevens can make these young players believe in his philosophy, he has a shot.

i mean if mark jackson can do it, why can't anyone else right?

better ship rondo out, he doesnt strike me as the "buying in" type..

[Mr KLC]

“We’ve got to re-connect as a group,” he said. “I thought we did a lot of things on an island tonight and Sunday (at Brooklyn) and Friday (at home against Brooklyn).”

When asked how the Celtics intend to re-connect, Stevens responded, “We have to be a team; that’s first and foremost. I know this: When you’re defense is a sieve, you’re not a team.”

Stevens added, “We’re not playing basketball as a team, at either end of the floor. We’ve had good quarters that masked our deficiencies. We need to get back to being a team, back to one direction.”

And as another question was being lobbed Stevens’ way, he blurted out, “The best way that we will be able to recognize it is if we guarded somebody for once.”

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/very-upset-stevens-reaches-breaking-point-after-loss

[jjgold]

lol

The issue is nobody listens to coaches anymore in NBA

Coaches have no power

He is a good coach too