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  • ritehook
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    Why Undefeated Utah Was Screwed
    Dan Wetzel at Yahoo Sports is, IMO, the best of the online sports writers - which means just about the best in the country, because the print guys are bogus.

    Wetzel doesn't take gifts or money from sports entities. (One of the bowls tried to send him a huge, illustrated book on thier bowl - he returned it.) If you think that is standard - tha the sports press would refuse all the little bribes from the powers they supposed to cover - you must hav recently left milk and cookies out for Santa, and no kids in the house.

    Here's his article on how the Utes got hosed:


    Utah out of sight, out of mind

    By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Jan 5, 10:03

    More From Dan Wetzel





    Why didn’t Utah merit consideration to play for the BCS national title?
    Why are the Utes, despite their 13-0 record, victories over four Associated Press top-25 teams and the champions of a conference that went 6-1 in the regular season against the Pac-10, watching one-loss teams Oklahoma and Florida play on Thursday?
    Just ask some of the voters in the Harris Interactive Poll, which helps determine the title-game matchup.
    “I did not see them play [in the regular season],” Bobby Aillet said.
    “I didn’t see any live games,” Lance McIlhenny said. “I just [saw] highlights.”
    “I don’t recall if I saw them play specifically during the regular season,” David Housel said. “I don’t remember a specific game.”

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    Utah’s coach Kyle Wittingham and quarterback Brian Johnson hold up the Sugar Bowl championship trophy after beating Alabama. Too bad they didn’t have a shot at holding the national title trophy.
    (Associated Press)




    Alliet, McIlhenny and Housel aren’t alone. It turns out there were a number of Harris Poll (and presumably coaches’ poll) voters who never saw Utah play this season. At least until the Utes manhandled Alabama in a way that Florida could only dream.
    That 31-17 victory in the Sugar Bowl didn’t just cap the program’s second perfect season in four years, it left people wondering why Utah wasn’t at least in the conversation for the title game.
    How did a team this good wind up a lowly sixth in the final BCS standings?
    The answer speaks to the illogical way college football crowns its champion, a system where perception, reputation and media hype can mean more than touchdowns and tackles.
    Utah could do the latter as well as anyone. It was non-competitive in the former – suffering from tired stereotypes, a lack of television exposure and the mind-numbing power of group think.


    Even by the absurd standards of the BCS, having voters not bother to watch an undefeated team play a single game is a new low.
    Whether Utah deserved to be ranked No. 1, 2 or 25 isn’t the point of this argument. The Utes deserved to have voters at least see them.
    The coaches and Harris polls make up two-thirds of the BCS rankings. The average of six computer formulas is the other third.
    Frustration with the BCS is often pointed at those faceless “computers.” It’s the human opinion polls, however, that are most subject to bias, laziness or disinterest.
    The computers can’t help but plug in Utah’s info. One of them even had the Utes ranked No. 2.
    The 61 voters in the coaches’ poll and 114 in the Harris weren’t as kind. They often voted on what they thought Utah might be, not what they saw Utah actually was. In a testament to copy-cat voting, almost everyone had the Utes between No. 7 and No. 10 in the polls.
    Then many tuned in Friday for what they admit was the very first time and saw reality wasn’t perception after all. This wasn’t some lucky mid-major team; the Utes were big, strong, fast and talented.
    “I wouldn’t say I probably was wrong. I was wrong,” said Housel, a former Auburn athletic director who had the Utes ranked 10th.


    Utah’s championship hopes for this season were dashed on July 1, 1978.
    That day the Pacific-8 Conference expanded. Rather than take Brigham Young and Utah, it went one state south and added Arizona and Arizona State.


    Utah’s lone game broadcast on ESPN was its season opener against Michigan in the Big House.
    (Associated Press)




    It cemented the opinion in the media – and thus the public and thus the coaches and Harris poll voters – that the only big-time sports league out west is the Pac-10. If you’re in it, you matter. If not, you might be a cute story, but you don’t.
    It’s the never-ending asterisk; one that Utah and the Mountain West Conference can’t seem to shake no matter how many perfect seasons, No. 1 draft choices or NFL MVPs it produces.
    It manifests itself not just in a skeptical eye of voters 30 years later, but in television contracts and media exposure.
    Utah played just one game on ESPN this season – a September victory at Michigan. It (and the rest of the leagues’) other games were carried on Versus and the league-owned Mountain West Sports Network, which reaches less than three million homes. Nationally, you needed a satellite system to watch the Utes.
    “I think you can find Utah if you want to find it,” Craig Thompson, the Mountain West commissioner, said.
    You can. And you’d think the BCS would require voters to do so. Naturally, it doesn’t.
    Instead, the BCS spreads the vote out to so many people while asking little in return. (One voter, broadcaster Don Criqui, didn’t even bother to cast a final ballot.)
    The BCS has no set rationale for how or why a school should be ranked – is it record, strength of schedule, whom it beat, whom it lost to, how it won, how it lost? The decision is up to each voter.
    The Harris voters are selected by conference offices. Most are media, former players or administrators. They are well-meaning but hold regular jobs and have their own busy schedules. This is a secondary (at best) thing and watching all the games is a challenge.
    “I don’t think I’m the only one that has that problem,” said Aillet, a retired SEC referee, who had Utah ranked ninth and said he might give up his vote next season. “I suspect most of the folks have that same problem.
    “It takes a lot of time to get it right, and sometimes I wonder if I’m doing it right.”
    Meanwhile, college coaches are admittedly biased and have little time to scout any team not on their schedule.
    In contrast, the 10-member NCAA men’s basketball selection committee meets throughout the season to compare notes and stay on top of hot teams. It demands comprehensive scouting, sets common criteria and even asks committee members to get out and see teams in person. Then they all meet and hash it out.
    While not devoid of controversy, the system is about as good as you can design.
    The BCS might be the worst.


    Thompson could only shrug off the frustration. He believes a 12-0 team from a league such as his will one day play in the BCS title game. This was a step toward gaining long-term credibility with voters and opinion makers.
    “Even if we were on national television it’d still be a fight because we don’t have that history,” Thompson said.
    The Mountain West had three teams ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS poll (the ACC and Big East each had one). It scored a number of notable out-of-conference victories, including strong success against the Pac-10. Yet reputations die hard.
    “I just thought that the Mountain West is not as tough a conference [as others],” McIlhenny, a former SMU player, said. “Apparently I was wrong.”
    Thompson knows that if a team went 12-0 in one of the six BCS automatic qualifying conferences, even ones that ranked lower than the MWC, they’d have gotten in without debate.
    “Sooner or later they’ve got to take notice,” he said. “You can’t say the Pac-10 was stronger than the Mountain West. The Pac-10 went 5-0 in bowl games, but head-to-head [in the regular season] we went 6-1.
    “If they start drilling down on it there’s nothing to say.”
    Sure, if you think BCS voters bother to drill down.


    The Mountain West doesn’t just suffer from a lack of game coverage on national television. It suffers for the lack of overall attention. ESPN, the 800-pound gorilla of college football hype, is notorious for promoting the games and teams that it broadcasts. This past season that meant lots of Big 12 talk.
    “There’s definitely some self-serving there,” Thompson said.
    Utah didn’t receive the same attention. Even after the Alabama win, part of the debate on Sunday’s “Sports Reporters” (the ultimate barometer of East Coast media thinking) was how Utah simply couldn’t be that good because, well, because it’s Utah.
    “They don’t play in a good conference,” Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe claimed.
    In the BCS chase, media is everything since the voters admit to taking their cues from highlight shows and articles.
    The networks aren’t above playing favorites. Back in 2006, the CBS broadcast crew for the SEC championship game campaigned relentlessly on the air for Florida to be selected over Michigan.
    Color commentator Gary Danielson later said CBS did it only because ESPN was doing the same for Michigan and the Big Ten.
    If the Utes had a broadcaster campaigning for them this season it wouldn’t have mattered.
    The BCS voters didn’t trouble themselves to watch anyway.
    Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports' national columnist and author of "Resilience: Faith, Focus, Triumph" with the Miami Heat's Alonzo Mourning. The book details Mourning's rise from foster care to NBA stardom before kidney disease changed everything. Send Dan a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
    Updated Jan 5, 10:03 am EST
  • purecarnagge
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    #2
    I think Utah could beat florida, I think they could be OU, and I think they deserve to win the championship, there AG is looking into the BCS for violating Anti Trust laws...
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    • MonkeyF0cker
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      #3
      Sorry. But they'd get annihilated by Florida, USC, or Oklahoma. They didn't deserve a title shot.
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      • ritehook
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        #4
        Another thing I like about Wetzel is that he doesn't submit to the invisible Net pressure to make all entries very short and easy on weak, Ritalin-weakened minds - he clearly takes the time to explore a subject. No chat room babblng moron stuff here.

        I go for that - LOL!

        He also did an excellent piece last week or so on how and why the BCS hogs have blocked - and will forever block if they are not guillotined - a playoff in college football.

        I may post that one too, for the entertainment and edification of the few here who do not suffer ADD. I think there are 2 or 3 here who are clear of that - me and one or two others.

        But as Thoreau said: "One of the side of Truth is a majority"

        [The New England sage may has said God instead of Truth, but I like it my way better.]
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        • ritehook
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          #5
          Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
          Sorry. But they'd get annihilated by Florida, USC, or Oklahoma. They didn't deserve a title shot.
          They are undefeated and beat some BCS teams, including high-ranking, one loss (prior to defeat at hands of Utes) Alabama.

          The BCS people should be shipped off to guard the gates of Gaza
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          • donjuan
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            #6
            Sorry. But they'd get annihilated by Florida, USC, or Oklahoma. They didn't deserve a title shot.
            Ding ding ding.
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            • EBone
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              #7
              If you read Mr. Wetzel's article above in its entirety, I think the main point is: "doesn't Utah deserve a shot at playing for the National Championship?".....Like other things in our lives, unfortunately, teams or people are not judged on merit but by perception. I don't know if Utah could compete with Oklahoma or Florida but I sure would like to see if they could.

              Perception is reality in this life and it is sad but a universal truth. People are sheep.


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              • ritehook
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                #8
                Originally posted by EBone
                If you read Mr. Wetzel's article above in its entirety, I think the main point is: "doesn't Utah deserve a shot at playing for the National Championship?".....Like other things in our lives, unfortunately, teams or people are not judged on merit but by perception. I don't know if Utah could compete with Oklahoma or Florida but I sure would like to see if they could.

                Perception is reality in this life and it is sad but a universal truth. People are sheep.


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                You read it all!

                Congrats!

                No Ritalin for you!
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                • Willie Bee
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                  #9
                  Until Wetzel can come up with a plan to:
                  A) Get everyone to conference-up, and;
                  B) Formulate a fair and balanced scheduling system for non-conference games, and;
                  C) Determine how to choose which 8 conference champs go into a playoff system, and;
                  D) Sell the whole plan to the NCAA...

                  ...it's just another article pooh-poohing the current system. I am glad he exposed some of the goofs that are responsible for the current method and simply don't take it seriously (or are plain lazy, like he said).
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                  • purecarnagge
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                    #10
                    We'll didn't bama beat some of the best in the country and Utah made Bama look terrible...

                    I think Utah could play with anyone in the country...sure they might lose, but look what they did to Bama. Bama was pretty consistant all year agianst good teams.
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                    • ritehook
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Willie Bee
                      Until Wetzel can come up with a plan to:
                      A) Get everyone to conference-up, and;
                      B) Formulate a fair and balanced scheduling system for non-conference games, and;
                      C) Determine how to choose which 8 conference champs go into a playoff system, and;
                      D) Sell the whole plan to the NCAA...

                      ...it's just another article pooh-poohing the current system. I am glad he exposed some of the goofs that are responsible for the current method and simply don't take it seriously (or are plain lazy, like he said).

                      From his prior article, Willie, it seems that the NCAA is NOT behind the unconditional love of the bowl system.

                      That is run by the BCS, an independent (of the NCAA) conglomeration. Wetzel pointed out in a prior article that the schools would actually make a lot more money if they could boot the BCS, which has these hugely inflated budgets for the bowls.

                      The NCAA knows how profitable a playoff could be - they run one for basketball. (On the other hand they were somehow convinced to help brainwash the public to change the 1-A division to - what is it - Football Bowl Series? Can't remember.
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                      • fiveteamer
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                        #12
                        College Football needs a playoff.
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                        • homerbush
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                          #13
                          I actually think the non BCS conference schools have it better than they use to. In the bowl old system the winner of the MWC(or then the teams that were in the WAC) would go to the Holiday Bowl to play the Big 10 fourth place team.
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                          • Willie Bee
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                            #14
                            That may be, ritehook, and I'm really not in disagreement with Wetzel's thinking in his piece. But the NCAA dicked around so long that they basically lost control of the situation. There are a lot of folks other than the BCS -- namely those who profit from the Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, etc -- that are calling the shots now. And no matter how many teams you let into a playoff system, you're still going to have to come up with a way to seed the teams, and we know that will never be perfect because it will require the input of bias and subjective humans.

                            How much do you think it would cost to get Notre Dame to join a conference for football? I've very rarely, if ever, seen anyone address that issue, and that has to be addressed if you are going to have a playoff system in my opinion.
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                            • ritehook
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Willie Bee
                              That may be, ritehook, and I'm really not in disagreement with Wetzel's thinking in his piece. But the NCAA dicked around so long that they basically lost control of the situation. There are a lot of folks other than the BCS -- namely those who profit from the Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, etc -- that are calling the shots now. And no matter how many teams you let into a playoff system, you're still going to have to come up with a way to seed the teams, and we know that will never be perfect because it will require the input of bias and subjective humans.

                              How much do you think it would cost to get Notre Dame to join a conference for football? I've very rarely, if ever, seen anyone address that issue, and that has to be addressed if you are going to have a playoff system in my opinion.

                              No, a playoff for football couldn't work exactly the way the Ncaa tournament in March does.

                              There will be of necessity a lot fewer teams in a football playoff. (Fewer 1-A teams in football to begin with, and fewer teams and games to be played because foots require more recuperation time than hoops)

                              You seed the 8 or 16 teams regardless of whether they won their conference. If Notre Dame is considered among the 8 or 12 or 16 best,it qualifies. If not, no. Doesn't matter if they're in a conference or stay independent.

                              As Wetzel points out, while the hoops NCAA seeding committee is far from perfect, it's a helluva lot better than the sorry fraud we have for college foots.

                              From strictly a betting mode I am in agreement with a poster on antoher thread who said the "disappointment" factor can make a sharpie nice profits every bowl season. Still, as a fan as well as bettor Id prefer to see a playoff.
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                              • fiveteamer
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                                #16
                                There is no perfect system, but the one that is in place now is terrible.

                                Essentially, people vote on a champion, how very un-American.
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                                • Willie Bee
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                                  #17
                                  I've said this before, and the reason that I'm probably not all boned-up about having a big playoff is that the BCS is at least a helluva' lot better than the way things were. Personally, I think a 4-team playoff is plenty big enough.

                                  But before I'd fix the BCS, the entire NCAA modus operandi on the gridiron needs to get overhauled, beginning with getting everyone into a conference and getting some sort of consistency and fairness to the whole scheduling bit. When you allow teams or schools to basically set their own schedule, you're always going to leave yourself open for taking jabs at any system you have. Utah knew what they were up against before the season started. Nothing against them or their program which has been among the best for a while now. The MWC isn't as bad as most of the sheep out there who just gobble up everything the talking heads tell them think. But going 12-0 against Weber State, Utah State and San Diego State just doesn't impress as much as a team going 11-1 with a conference slate such as Oklahoma and Florida have. The Utes scheduled Michigan several years ago and sort of got screwed there since the Wolverines basically sucked goat balls this year. But if Michigan had the sort of team they're accustomed to having, then there's a damn good chance Utah is 0-1 coming home from Ann Arbor to start the season.

                                  There are a lot of writers -- such as Wetzel -- who have alterior motives to writing an article about Utah or USC or Texas right now. The iron's hot so now's the time to strike. Like those American Indians back in the 1995 World Series, for example: 364 days a year they're busy running casinos, putting on rain dances for the white folks spending their money visiting the reservation, and hawking blankets and turquoise in the gift shops on your way out. But put two teams named the Braves and Indians into a big media event like the World Series, and they're banging their tom-tom's over what a social injustice it is to have teams mocking their heritage.

                                  That goofy University of Georgia president Michael Adams back in Dec '06 didn't think a playoff was a good idea, voted it down and he's got some clout. The very next season, when his Bulldogs were ranked third or fourth at the end of the year, he was hawking a playoff system after seeing the dollar signs in a dream, I can only assume.
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                                  • ritehook
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                                    #18
                                    Any journalist is going to write about topics of current interest - nothing wrong with that.

                                    I think his only motive - other than to write a topic of interest - was to expose the absurdities in the current system.

                                    Utah did play a few teams like Utah St etc. But Florida played Hawaii, and, bizarrely, The Citadel, right near the end of the season.

                                    Oklahoma started their season with a slam-dunk vs Chattanooga. (Complete with that famous "Shoe Shine Boy?")

                                    Nothing will ever be perfect. But the BCS system is a scam.
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                                    • Willie Bee
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                                      #19
                                      But overall, who had the tougher schedule, Florida or Utah? Oklahoma or Utah? Texas or Utah? USC or Utah?

                                      I think calling the BCS a scam is way overboard. You yourself said we were basically going to still need a BCS type poll to help seed teams for a playoff. If the top 8 teams from this year's final BCS poll were put into a three-week playoff system, would the BCS still be a scam?
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                                      • Husker36
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                        I think Utah could beat florida, I think they could be OU, and I think they deserve to win the championship, there AG is looking into the BCS for violating Anti Trust laws...
                                        I disagree. I think Utah beat an Alabama team that was missing their best player and bummed that they didnt beat Florida.

                                        BUT with that being said.... I think they should have an OPPORTUNITY to atleast play!

                                        How awesome would it be if CFB wasnt over and we were down to the final 4...... Utah, USC, Texas, and the winner of FL/OU.

                                        We need a playoff.... but we are stuck with this crappy system for now..... until what? 2014 I think?
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                                        • fiveteamer
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                                          #21
                                          f'king byu could not even beat arizona. Mwc is crap. Stop all this nonsense. Utah has a cupcake schedule every year playing in the mwc. Only went undefeated because michigan hasn't been this bad since 1880.
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                                          • mojomaker11
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                                            #22
                                            If Utah could have won impressively in every single one of their games, they would of went to the national championship. I am a Michigan fan and we almost beat them and we were absolutely horrible this year. If you want consideration playing in an unknown division, you have to win convincingly!!
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                                            • BCaldwell32
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                              We'll didn't bama beat some of the best in the country and Utah made Bama look terrible...

                                              I think Utah could play with anyone in the country...sure they might lose, but look what they did to Bama. Bama was pretty consistant all year agianst good teams.
                                              Alabama was not ready for this game, they were still pissed off about losing to Florida in the 4th quarter and not having a shot at title game. If Alabama properly prepared for this game and really came out and played their best they would beat Utah. This was Utah trying to prove they belong but only against a team that was already beginning their offseason!!
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                                              • MonkeyF0cker
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BCaldwell32
                                                Alabama was not ready for this game, they were still pissed off about losing to Florida in the 4th quarter and not having a shot at title game. If Alabama properly prepared for this game and really came out and played their best they would beat Utah. This was Utah trying to prove they belong but only against a team that was already beginning their offseason!!
                                                Exactly. Alabama had already played for their national title and lost. Does anyone really think they came into the game caring whether they beat Utah or not? Utah was the only team motivated in that game. They were out to try to prove themselves. Alabama had already packed it in. It was one of the easiest bowl games to bet on. Playing a dejected Alabama team vs. playing for the national championship are not comparable. It is not an accurate assessment of how they would actually fare in the big game.
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                                                • ritehook
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                                                  #25
                                                  Sure, Utah beat a dejected Bama team. (One reason I made a good bet on Bama) And sure the Tide was missing a top offensive lineman.

                                                  But, friends, neither the human rankers nor the computers figure those things into the ratings. They just look at wins and losses.

                                                  And Utah was undefeated this year. And, absolutely, the Mountain West is at least as good as the Big East, in up and down quality. And would be better if Boise were lured from the WAC.

                                                  The NCAA doesn't just look at computers or polls when it selects its 64 (or 65) teams for the Big Dance. OK, less than that, as some are automatic bids having won thier conference.

                                                  But for those they have to pick for "at large," even those in the "mid-majors," they kick it back and forth, they talk about it. And if a team from the MAC or the MVC or the Horizon seems worthy of at-large, you can bet they are going to watch at least some of their games!

                                                  It's a far, far superior system than the bowl tango to end every foots season. We can speculate, but don't really know, how Utah would have done vs Florida or Oklahoma.

                                                  These travesties will continue until the BCS con men are taken on a one-way ride.
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                                                  • fiveteamer
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ritehook
                                                    Sure, Utah beat a dejected Bama team. (One reason I made a good bet on Bama) And sure the Tide was missing a top offensive lineman.

                                                    But, friends, neither the human rankers nor the computers figure those things into the ratings. They just look at wins and losses.

                                                    And Utah was undefeated this year. And, absolutely, the Mountain West is at least as good as the Big East, in up and down quality. And would be better if Boise were lured from the WAC.

                                                    The NCAA doesn't just look at computers or polls when it selects its 64 (or 65) teams for the Big Dance. OK, less than that, as some are automatic bids having won thier conference.

                                                    But for those they have to pick for "at large," even those in the "mid-majors," they kick it back and forth, they talk about it. And if a team from the MAC or the MVC or the Horizon seems worthy of at-large, you can bet they are going to watch at least some of their games!

                                                    It's a far, far superior system than the bowl tango to end every foots season. We can speculate, but don't really know, how Utah would have done vs Florida or Oklahoma.

                                                    These travesties will continue until the BCS con men are taken on a one-way ride.
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                                                    • EBone
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                      Exactly. Alabama had already played for their national title and lost. Does anyone really think they came into the game caring whether they beat Utah or not? Utah was the only team motivated in that game. They were out to try to prove themselves. Alabama had already packed it in. It was one of the easiest bowl games to bet on. Playing a dejected Alabama team vs. playing for the national championship are not comparable. It is not an accurate assessment of how they would actually fare in the big game.

                                                      Just as an opinion, I don't buy this argument. I believe that, if Alabama had been undefeated, the same result would have happened. I know that this is an opinion that is in the minority but I do hold it. I could be wrong.



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