Is Tiger Woods Over-rated?

[Seaweed]

[InTheDrink]

weeder youre really pushing it pal

[boeing power]

Weeder give us a loser for tonight.

[The Giant]

One of the most overrated athletes in the history of sports.

Did you know that he has never come back to win a major on Sunday? Jack Nicklaus, on the other hand, has done it 8 times. EIGHT.

Tiger is simply a product of steroids and HGH. It is that simple, and he's not fooling anyone.

Can I get an amen, Seaweed?

[Seaweed]

Weeder give us a loser for tonight.

Detroit Red Wings/Nashville Predators First Period UNDER 1.5

[Seaweed]

One of the most overrated athletes in the history of sports.

Did you know that he has never come back to win a major on Sunday? Jack Nicklaus, on the other hand, has done it 8 times. EIGHT.

Tiger is simply a product of steroids and HGH. It is that simple, and he's not fooling anyone.

Can I get an amen, Seaweed?

Amen! Finally someone with some common sense around here.

[tto827]

He finished 4 shots back....

That damn bounce of the flagstick followed by poor drop cost him 4 strokes.

He missed a handful of putts that should have been made, and still should have been in the playoff if not already won the damn thing, as he probably could have saved some shots not having to press.

Still the only guy I've ever seen on tour who can consistently win when he isn't 100% on his game, and that's what separates him from the rest.

[The Giant]

Amen! Finally someone with some common sense around here.

[Seaweed]

weeder youre really pushing it pal

Drinker you've changed

[PhillyFlyers]

Tough call.

He's played against no real competition in his career. He never had a great rival that tested him.

Jack played against some of the greatest golfers that ever lived. Real legends of the game.

Tiger played against none.

[Seaweed]

He finished 4 shots back....

That damn bounce of the flagstick followed by poor drop cost him 4 strokes.

He missed a handful of putts that should have been made, and still should have been in the playoff if not already won the damn thing, as he probably could have saved some shots not having to press.

Still the only guy I've ever seen on tour who can consistently win when he isn't 100% on his game, and that's what separates him from the rest.

He isn't what he used to be.

[BigDeem5]

Tiger isn't overrated.

Top 3 all time.

[tto827]

Tough call.

He's played against no real competition in his career. He never had a great rival that tested him.

Jack played against some of the greatest golfers that ever lived. Real legends of the game.

Tiger played against none.

That's cause tiger dominate them. Plain and simple... No one has ever won at the 30-40% clip tiger did during the late butch and early Haney years.

[d2bets]

Tough call.

He's played against no real competition in his career. He never had a great rival that tested him.

Jack played against some of the greatest golfers that ever lived. Real legends of the game.

Tiger played against none.

They were legends because there was less competition back then. The entire world is potential competition these days. Back then it was a handful of rich elites competing against each other. Much larger pool now. They can groom some kid among the billion in China to be the next great one. Much tougher now to be a single dominant force.

In other words, you're wrong.

[tto827]

He isn't what he used to be.

Of course not. Nor will he ever be again, the amount of time and level of commitment he had was unmatched.

Hank Haney said its unfair to compare Tiger's future coaches to him and Butch, because Tiger has become more involved in physical fitness and having a life then he used to.

The guy would truly spend 8-10 hours a day golfing, VJ is the only one who is comparable.

[PhillyFlyers]

They were legends because there was less competition back then. The entire world is potential competition these days. Back then it was a handful of rich elites competing against each other. Much larger pool now. They can groom some kid among the billion in China to be the next great one. Much tougher now to be a single dominant force.

In other words, you're wrong.

This is the biggest bunch of horseshit I've read on this site.

Jack's competition was a handful of rich elites?

What a fukkin nitwit comment.

There is no comparison between the competition Jack had to face to the drivel that Tiger plays against-and loses to.

Jack would have had at LEAST 9 more major titles to his name if it weren't for the ridiculous competition he played against.

For example, Jack would have won the 1960 US Open AS AN AMATEUR, if it wasn't for Arnold Palmer closing with a 65 to edge him by two shots.

[InTheDrink]

Drinker you've changed

weeder you've changed

[broadway6]

One of the most overrated athletes in the history of sports.

Did you know that he has never come back to win a major on Sunday? Jack Nicklaus, on the other hand, has done it 8 times. EIGHT.

Tiger is simply a product of steroids and HGH. It is that simple, and he's not fooling anyone.

Can I get an amen, Seaweed?

Can only win with the lead in a major. Maybe wearing red and black on Sundays isn't that lucky.

[Seaweed]

weeder you've changed

Drinker, every flipped coin has an original position, we will always have that position

[Kaabee]

nicklaus career win percentage = 14%, even if you don't count nicklaus last 10 lean years, still only 19%

tiger = 27%

[InTheDrink]

One of the most overrated athletes in the history of sports.

Did you know that he has never come back to win a major on Sunday? Jack Nicklaus, on the other hand, has done it 8 times. EIGHT.

Tiger is simply a product of steroids and HGH. It is that simple, and he's not fooling anyone.

Can I get an amen, Seaweed?

thegiant so youre saying hes the second best golfer of all time

thegiant that sounds like the most overrated athlete of all time in all of sports to me

[PhillyFlyers]

nicklaus career win percentage = 14%, even if you don't count nicklaus last 10 lean years, still only 19%

tiger = 27%

Playing against no one.

He just lost a Masters tournament in which he was favored to a fukkin nobody.

[Kaabee]

Playing against no one.

He just lost a Masters tournament in which he was favored to a fukkin nobody.

i have facts, you have hyperbole.

[PhillyFlyers]

i have facts, you have hyperbole.

And what are your so called facts?

[The Giant]

thegiant so youre saying hes the second best golfer of all time

thegiant that sounds like the most overrated athlete of all time in all of sports to me

Are you in love with Tiger or something?

Why are you so defensive?

You are probably a sexual fiend like your hero Tiger.

[k13]

Yes.

[d2bets]

Even the tournaments themselves are much larger now. 93 entrants this year. Just looked back 1972 Masters had 47 entrants. Half as many. There are dozens that can win any tournament. Back then there were maybe a handful that really had a chance.

So much tougher to dominate now. I think it's quite possible we'll never see another single golfer who will win DD majors. Never. Too much competition.

I mean, look, other than Tiger no golfer that's won since '96 has more than 4 major wins. The lack of wins is not a lack of quality, it's a glut of quality. The field of potential winners is so much wider. Scott is a great golfer. That this is his first major just says how good the field is.

[PhillyFlyers]

Even the tournaments themselves are much larger now. 93 entrants this year. Just looked back 1972 Masters had 47 entrants. Half as many. There are dozens that can win any tournament. Back then there were maybe a handful that really had a chance.

So much tougher to dominate now. I think it's quite possible we'll never see another single golfer who will win DD majors. Never. Too much competition.

I mean, look, other than Tiger no golfer that's won since '96 has more than 4 major wins. The lack of wins is not a lack of quality, it's a glut of quality. The field of potential winners is so much wider. Scott is a great golfer. That this is his first major just says how good the field is.

This makes zero sense and is completely illogical. It also goes against the facts of history.

[InTheDrink]

Are you in love with Tiger or something?

Why are you so defensive?

You are probably a sexual fiend like your hero Tiger.

thegiant your comments reek of irony

thegiant are you mad because weve been told about the charmin

thegiant i just point out facts

[Smoke]

Drinker I love your new tramp stamp

[d2bets]

This makes zero sense and is completely illogical. It also goes against the facts of history.

What facts? The total pool of golfers who have access to the game and access to coaching and access to learning the game is so much wider now. It's pretty obvious. Why would golfers not be better when the pool of talent and access to learning is so much bigger. Golf will never again see 1 or 2 or 3 guys dominating. The media will want to push it, like they try with Rory and Phil, but it's just forced, there are too many great golfers for any one guy to win a ton.

And with that, Tiger is still the best single, but he likely will never dominate like he did. That was almost impossible, and it's even harder now, even if it was a young Tiger.

[PhillyFlyers]

What facts? The total pool of golfers who have access to the game and access to coaching and access to learning the game is so much wider now. It's pretty obvious. Why would golfers not be better when the pool of talent and access to learning is so much bigger. Golf will never again see 1 or 2 or 3 guys dominating. The media will want to push it, like they try with Rory and Phil, but it's just forced, there are too many great golfers for any one guy to win a ton.

And with that, Tiger is still the best single, but he likely will never dominate like he did. That was almost impossible, and it's even harder now, even if it was a young Tiger.

What do you mean what facts?

The facts say Jack's competition was FAR greater than Tiger's.

The facts say Jack would have won many more majors if it wasn't for that competition.

The facts say that a prime Jack Nicklaus would have absolutely destroyed today's competition.

You're trying to say the competition is greater today. That is absurd.

[Naz18]

One of the most overrated athletes in the history of sports.

Did you know that he has never come back to win a major on Sunday? Jack Nicklaus, on the other hand, has done it 8 times. EIGHT.

Tiger is simply a product of steroids and HGH. It is that simple, and he's not fooling anyone.

Can I get an amen, Seaweed?

Why should it matter how you win...so he should be punished for having doing better in the earlier rounds?

[d2bets]

What do you mean what facts?

The facts say Jack's competition was FAR greater than Tiger's.

The facts say Jack would have won many more majors if it wasn't for that competition.

The facts say that a prime Jack Nicklaus would have absolutely destroyed today's competition.

You're trying to say the competition is greater today. That is absurd.

Again, what facts? You're going to say there were more individuals with more wins. And now it is more spread out. Yes, that is true. But as far as I'm concerned, that just indicates a wider talent pool of competition. That's harder to beat. Just lookat the logic of it. The pool of competition is literally billions now, compared to maybe in the tens of millions 30 to 50 years ago or more. Golf a much more global game now.

[PhillyFlyers]

Why should it matter how you win...so he should be punished for having doing better in the earlier rounds?

What he's trying to say is that in order for Tiger to win, he needs to play with a lead because he does not have the ability to come back and that Jack did have this ability.

He is correct.