SBR_John - Admin - Staff & Mods any comment ? Your BI Sheet

[bettilimbroke999]

some one feel like giving me quick cliff note of where this all stands right now? seems like every one stopped commenting the storm has calmed? did John or SBR address everything and everyone get answers?

Yes you're robbed...SBR set you up and made you their bitch...tough luck...SBRJohn offered a terrible excuse for an apology. SBR and BetIslands are 1.5 mil richer and SBR members are 1.5 million poorer

[Sam Odom]

zoo youk , bottomline

SBR_John plea of nolo contendere

J7 says $85K - no big deal

BillyD says it is all a lie

Time to move on

[zoo youk]

Yes you're robbed...SBR set you up and made you their bitch...tough luck...SBRJohn offered a terrible excuse for an apology. SBR and BetIslands are 1.5 mil richer and SBR members are 1.5 million poorer

lol i am no ones bitch. I play at heritage. used to play at BI but no live betting drove me off. just wondering why everything is so quite now.

guess 19 pages isn't really quite guess people just lost hope, which sucks.

[tblues2005]

Tough crowd. Stick with the A or better yet the A+ group. If you don't want to play in the contests around here or roll in the SBR sportsbook then don't go Pro. Plenty others will and are doing so in large numbers. We made a mistake and have owned up to it, apologized for it and allowed every voice and shred of evidence to be posted and dissected. Just like you and everyone else we are human and we made a mistake, we will learn from it, make sure its never repeated and do our best to improve.

All you guys need to do is put a sticky explaining what's going on with this but I am glad to know they are owning up to what these guys did and it was pretty bad. I have got some suggestions to give SBR on this and I hope you will consider it.

[SplitAces]

Not sure why We cant get BI Jon's real name or the supposed money man for BI real name..............He has all our real names, and probably our addresses.........

Yes sir. I do not get it.
Full disclosure on our end, but our watchdog protects the thiefs and criminals. Sound fair?
Fukked up business and process.

[SplitAces]

some one feel like giving me quick cliff note of where this all stands right now? seems like every one stopped commenting the storm has calmed? did John or SBR address everything and everyone get answers?

Here you go. Quick cliff note version.
SBR mislead, lied, and defrauded its members while making big money. Members lost 1.5 million and confidence in SBR. SBR comments last and with little explanation or responsibility. The HVAC guy in New Jersey and a 18 yr old college kid knew months before SBR that BI was in dire straights.

Sprinkle in some BS, Lies and threats and there you go.

[Brick]

This will not be a popular answer, as if any I've made have been, but we don't release that kind of information. We work and live with our families and children here in Costa Rica. Many of the children go to the same school. Bill and I have been commandeered at gun point by the SBG Sportsbook thugs in a documented incident with Tej. Releasing names puts the SBR staff and their families at risk.

Pretty much says right there that they have control over your whole operation. These guys have you scared, and there is no chance you will ever report the truth because you fear the repercussions.

[Cuse0323]

Pretty much says right there that they have control over your whole operation. These guys have you scared, and there is no chance you will ever report the truth because you fear the repercussions.

If you need some muscle, hit me up Johnny. Not scared of the tattooed POS.

[wantitall4moi]

Here you go. Quick cliff note version.
SBR mislead, lied, and defrauded its members while making big money. Members lost 1.5 million and confidence in SBR. SBR comments last and with little explanation or responsibility. The HVAC guy in New Jersey and a 18 yr old college kid knew months before SBR that BI was in dire straights.

Sprinkle in some BS, Lies and threats and there you go.

SBR posters or player lost no where near 1.5 million out of pocket. I am not defending SBR but I suspect if you could get every legit player to give you a figure on how much they sent in there and never got any payment at all it would be way under 100K.

If they had 1.5 million they would have enough to cover their balances. And they wouldnt have closed up shop.

[Brick]

SBR posters or player lost no where near 1.5 million out of pocket. I am not defending SBR but I suspect if you could get every legit player to give you a figure on how much they sent in there and never got any payment at all it would be way under 100K.

If they had 1.5 million they would have enough to cover their balances. And they wouldnt have closed up shop.

so you think as a whole they multiplied their money by 15x or more?

[wantitall4moi]

so you think as a whole they multiplied their money by 15x or more?

no I think the 'reporters' who got the list use their balance sheet as if it is actual cash or even cash deposited.

The money didnt exist, it was promised money that was deposited as whatever. Kind of like SBR points, they dont exist, they can be used to buy things but you didnt send any in. SBR gave them to you and you can do with them what you want. But if say you try and cash them in for an Ipod and SBR suddenly stops giving out things for SBR points you didnt 'lose' anything. You werent really 'stiffed'. Other than make believe stuff they gave you in the first place. You didnt send points in to them and multiply them yourself.

[bettilimbroke999]

no I think the 'reporters' who got the list use their balance sheet as if it is actual cash or even cash deposited.

The money didnt exist, it was promised money that was deposited as whatever. Kind of like SBR points, they dont exist, they can be used to buy things but you didnt send any in. SBR gave them to you and you can do with them what you want. But if say you try and cash them in for an Ipod and SBR suddenly stops giving out things for SBR points you didnt 'lose' anything. You werent really 'stiffed'. Other than make believe stuff they gave you in the first place. You didnt send points in to them and multiply them yourself.

[tatommack]

Get a new translator.

The poster was already not a Pro. I appreciate the business lesson though. The product and concept here is very good and will continue to improve. We just can't allow another BI fiasco.

First real talk I've seen out of all this thank you

[pokernut9999]

Here you go. Quick cliff note version.
SBR mislead, lied, and defrauded its members while making big money. Members lost 1.5 million and confidence in SBR. SBR comments last and with little explanation or responsibility. The HVAC guy in New Jersey and a 18 yr old college kid knew months before SBR that BI was in dire straights.

Sprinkle in some BS, Lies and threats and there you go.

So why is no one bashing these two for not informing you guys ?

[Cuse0323]

So why is no one bashing these two for not informing you guys ?

Uh, they did.

[pokernut9999]

SBR posters or player lost no where near 1.5 million out of pocket. I am not defending SBR but I suspect if you could get every legit player to give you a figure on how much they sent in there and never got any payment at all it would be way under 100K.

If they had 1.5 million they would have enough to cover their balances. And they wouldnt have closed up shop.

Amazing how everyone thinks 1.5 million is owed that 1.5 million was sitting there in cash. Guess they think everytime a bet was won the money popped up in in a vault somewhere.

[pokernut9999]

Uh, they did.

So they did months ago ? really

[SplitAces]

SBR posters or player lost no where near 1.5 million out of pocket. I am not defending SBR but I suspect if you could get every legit player to give you a figure on how much they sent in there and never got any payment at all it would be way under 100K.

If they had 1.5 million they would have enough to cover their balances. And they wouldnt have closed up shop.

Come on really. What if they spent the money or mismanaged it then it would not be available to pay players. Chances are you are right about the 1.5 million number being high but also you are way off on the 100k one too.

[Cuse0323]

So they did months ago ? really

I know you and John are friends so I won't even respond to how dumb you fighting this is.

[wantitall4moi]

Come on really. What if they spent the money or mismanaged it then it would not be available to pay players. Chances are you are right about the 1.5 million number being high but also you are way off on the 100k one too.

Go look at the videos that crack head posted and the shit he said in the forums and tell me he had money of any kind longer than he could find something to spend it on.

When that guy got over paid 1500 bux and everyone lost their minds that should have been the first flag. But instead SBR banned the guy and everyone shit on him. Rather than see that as a red flag everyone just put their heads in the sand and said it was a simple bump in the road.

But that showed how 'well' that book was run, just like a lot of books and their clerical and book keeping errors either over paying guys or grading shit wrong and paying it out then demanding money get returned.

The places are ALL a house of card just waiting for a window to open and blow them all to the ground.

Seriously if people were informed BEFOREHAND that was the kid running the show how many people would have played there?

Well SBR John, Justin, and EVERYONE at SBR KNEW that was the guy. That knowledge in and of itself is enough to damn them for this fiasco. But I know they had a lot more to do with it than that, but it isnt surprising people dont think so,m thats why guys get suckered over and over again.

[pokernut9999]

I know you and John are friends so I won't even respond to how dumb you fighting this is.

Just post a link where these guys informed people Months ago.

[stevenash]

If anyone re ups their pro status and gives SBR any more money after they blatalantly stole then You're the idiot this time....

I donated to Make A Wish Foundation. I believe in that cause. Not only did my donation go to a charity get me a tax write off, it paid for itself and another 200 dollars in gift cards.
From where I sit, I donated to a charity that makes kids that need a smile get a smile, I didn't donate to a sports related message board.

[ebbearsfb1]

I donated to Make A Wish Foundation. I believe in that cause. Not only did my donation go to a charity get me a tax write off, it paid for itself and another 200 dollars in gift cards.
From where I sit, I donated to a charity that makes kids that need a smile get a smile, I didn't donate to a sports related message board.

Good post Nash.can't argue that
Always nice to help kids who need it

[stevenash]

Good post Nash.can't argue that
Always nice to help kids who need it

Thanks EB, I got a tax code when I made that donation too, and the last time I checked I have almost 8K ins points still, plus money in the book collecting dust.

[pokernut9999]

I donated to Make A Wish Foundation. I believe in that cause. Not only did my donation go to a charity get me a tax write off, it paid for itself and another 200 dollars in gift cards.
From where I sit, I donated to a charity that makes kids that need a smile get a smile, I didn't donate to a sports related message board.

Between gift cards and BTP winnings I have made a lot of free money off SBR , and also donated money to charity with these winnings.

When something like this happens you need to just move on , all the finger pointing and ranting wil not change a thing.

Gambling circles are not made up of savory characters , just people trying to make a easy buck without working.

[King Mayan]

Pimpin' ain't easy.

[stevenash]

Pimpin' ain't easy.

Weren't you supposed to all be dead yesterday?

[King Mayan]

Weren't you supposed to all be dead yesterday?

We know better Nash... My peeps never said it was the end..

Nash play some hoops man.

[wantitall4moi]

Weren't you supposed to all be dead yesterday?

its good to be king

[Louisvillekid1]

We need a press conference, make a thread asking direct questions and watch them answer 'em live....

[sneak-a-peak]

LOL

[tto827]

Pokernut, I tried asking for proof of anything incriminating John and them... Some answered indirect, others dodged
They understandably want blood, and that's the end of it.

[tto827]

We need a press conference, make a thread asking direct questions and watch them answer 'em live....

Should see if SBR would do it in chat, could be very interesting.

[wantitall4moi]

Pokernut, I tried asking for proof of anything incriminating John and them... Some answered indirect, others dodged
They understandably want blood, and that's the end of it.

if it is there it will be found, just might take awhile.

The 'brain trust' running that joint wasnt smart enough to keep things under cover thats for sure.

[flyingillini]

Pimpin' ain't easy.

Big Sur!