SBR_John - Admin - Staff & Mods any comment ? Your BI Sheet

**RudyRuetigger** · 12-21-12, 05:26 PM

i dont understand.

if sbr knew, why would justin7 have 85k stuck there?

**allin1** · 12-21-12, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

i dont understand.

if sbr knew, why would justin7 have 85k stuck there?

justin7 seems to be more of a consultant for sbr, not part of the "wolf pack"

**Sam Odom** · 12-21-12, 05:28 PM

Rudy , this fiasco is a big fat Onion

many layers left

**tto827** · 12-21-12, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by allin1

justin7 is more of a consultant for sbr. He is not part of the wolf pack

If Justin7 ever says a positive thing here again, either he believes SBR didn't know, or he is one of the wolfpack.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 12-21-12, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Rudy , this fiasco is a big fat Onion

many layers left

**SBR_John** · 12-21-12, 05:29 PM

BI was certainly popular here. They did advertise on Covers as well.

BI always promised and maintained until the end that payments would definitely be going out and that they always paid. We had given them until Saturday when they were absolutely sure payments would go out. Did they pay until they ran out of money? Doubtful. Seems more likely they had a balance and at some point late last week decided not to send anything and run.

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Maybe ran it up with a lucky streak or a big parlay, and was only able to get smallish amounts out each week.

For me, the interesting thing is Justin taking an 85k bath, which suggests the book's rapid failure was probably a total surprise.

Sympathies to anyone who got burned - was once in a situation like this myself. Only for $30k, and eventually got it all back, but it was pretty unpleasant at the time.

I agree with you that was a pretty tough hit to lose 30k to anyone. I am so glad I didn't have an account with these clowns even though I considered it. What is shocking to me too is Justins 85k also. I wonder if he had more than that there and took withdrawals out before then. With the 250k in that one I wonder how much he started with and then I would go from there.

**boatboatboat** · 12-21-12, 05:32 PM

John how much would you estimate SBR made over the last two years with banner and affilate fees?

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

BI was certainly popular here. They did advertise on Covers as well.

BI always promised and maintained until the end that payments would definitely be going out and that they always paid. We had given them until Saturday when they were absolutely sure payments would go out. Did they pay until they ran out of money? Doubtful. Seems more likely they had a balance and at some point late last week decided not to send anything and run.

What made them do that I wonder? I just don't understand it at all. No explanation at all why. I really deep down inside that SBR didn't think this would happen either. I would love to hear the whole SBR story behind it and from what I understand I think they tried to get it resolved and it just didn't work out.

**pavyracer** · 12-21-12, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

i dont understand.

if sbr knew, why would justin7 have 85k stuck there?

Who says he wasn't trying for months to get his funds out but there was no cash in the coffers to pay him? In fact this tells me that these guys were bust a long time ago and they had no intention of paying anyone.

**Sam Odom** · 12-21-12, 05:33 PM

SBR_John

get to bottom of post #40

thanks

**allin1** · 12-21-12, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by tto827

If Justin7 ever says a positive thing here again, either he believes SBR didn't know, or he is one of the wolfpack.

I was thinking the exact same thing abot sbr not knowing

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by boatboatboat

John how much would you estimate SBR made over the last two years with banner and affilate fees?

Good question!

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=pavyracer;17210266]Who says he wasn't trying for months to get his funds out but there was no cash in the coffers to pay him? In fact this tells me that these guys were bust a long time ago and they had no intention of paying anyone.[/Q

He might have started with say $10k so it might have been winnings to get to that much.

**GamblerSpirit** · 12-21-12, 05:41 PM

Don't see my name or act#..dang, i wanted to know my standing as a sharp or average joe.

hit them for 4.5k on a 350 deposit the only time i posted up with them(sbr pro membership)...i guess i'm one of the lucky ones to not have a balance stolen by sbr/jon.

**TheMoneyShot** · 12-21-12, 05:43 PM

I don't know if I should really believe what I'm reading here...

**King Mayan** · 12-21-12, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Opie , would you take the job of cleaning up SBR and this mess ?

Opie knew of this too..

He had dinner with sbr John... Just like sbr john had dinner with Jon Kreta...

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by King Mayan

Opie knew of this too..

He had dinner with sbr John... Just like sbr john had dinner with Jon Kreta...

Who knows?

**offshoreguy** · 12-21-12, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by tblues2005

What is shocking to me too is Justins 85k also. I wonder if he had more than that there and took withdrawals out before then.

Could have been his affiliate balance. I have no doubt they were also slow paying their affiliates.

**Smoke** · 12-21-12, 05:48 PM

**Stallion** · 12-21-12, 05:49 PM

To all the guys that deposited money in that book, I am sick to my stomach to see what happened. I hope you guys get a bailout from another book, and I hope everyone will think twice before putting money in any sportsbook.

**bettilimbroke999** · 12-21-12, 05:50 PM

Some guy Brian had 260k in BetIslands???!?!??!?!?!

I would be looking for Brian in my rearview mirror if I was BetIslands

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Stallion

To all the guys that deposited money in that book, I am sick to my stomach to see what happened. I hope you guys get a bailout from another book, and I hope everyone will think twice before putting money in any sportsbook.

I hope they learn a lesson from this and not keep so much in there. Some of these amounts are huge.

**Smoke** · 12-21-12, 05:51 PM

Brian check in

You are an idiot

**Chimneyfish** · 12-21-12, 05:52 PM

The original article has been updated to now suggest that SBR itself may have been BI's financial backer. There's no real substance to any of their theories aside from the fact that they were somehow able to obtain that list of referral players, but I was a bit surprised to see that John didn't bother to debunk any of the claims.

Justin7, please tell us whether you lost your money.

**Bcatswin** · 12-21-12, 05:53 PM

**allin1** · 12-21-12, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by tblues2005

I hope they learn a lesson from this and not keep so much in there. Some of these amounts are huge.

my guess is that their overall bank rolls are much larger than what they had at bi

**allin1** · 12-21-12, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Brian check in

You are an idiot

he isn't if he has 5 million to bet with. He also could have made that from a 40k deposit and was slow payed

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-21-12, 05:54 PM

The final piece of the puzzle..................

BOOM!

Thursday, October 25, 2012

Multimillion dollar sports betting ring busted in Queens

Five Families of New York City: Multimillion dollar sports betting ring busted in Queens

**tto827** · 12-21-12, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Chimneyfish

The original article has been updated to now suggest that SBR itself may have been BI's financial backer. There's no real substance to any of their theories aside from the fact that they were somehow able to obtain that list of referral players, but I was a bit surprised to see that John didn't bother to debunk any of the claims.

Justin7, please tell us whether you lost your money.

Whatever he says means nothing. If he thought SBR screwed him over, he would have been livid and we would know it. He will tell us he lost that money, no way to verify he actually did, so why bother?

**pavyracer** · 12-21-12, 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=tblues2005;17210310]

Originally posted by pavyracer

Who says he wasn't trying for months to get his funds out but there was no cash in the coffers to pay him? In fact this tells me that these guys were bust a long time ago and they had no intention of paying anyone.[/Q

He might have started with say $10k so it might have been winnings to get to that much.

That's what I'm saying. If he was owed $85k and there was nothing to pay him for months what were his options? Out them at SBR?

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:55 PM

You might be right allin1.

**tblues2005** · 12-21-12, 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=pavyracer;17210528]

Originally posted by tblues2005

That's what I'm saying. If he was owed $85k and there was nothing to pay him for months what were his options? Out them at SBR?

I would have! The warning would have been given out to the members here on it. They wouldn't have gotten as much as they did on stealing SBR's members money.

**raydog** · 12-21-12, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by tblues2005

No Kidding! Can you figure out why someone would have over $250k in an off shore account in the first place?

its actually very simple... if you keep winning more than your max withdrawals, your balance continues to grow...nothing to do about it

**tto827** · 12-21-12, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

The final piece of the puzzle..................

BOOM!

Thursday, October 25, 2012

Multimillion dollar sports betting ring busted in Queens

Five Families of New York City: Multimillion dollar sports betting ring busted in Queens

I seem to be missing the connection Pauly, care to fill me in?