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  • Louisvillekid1
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    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #36
    believe you me,

    I was at the game in 06-07...

    If willy gay doesn't jump offsides when ito misses that kick we would of played for the NC!

    Payback time!
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    • MoneyLineDawg
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-01-09
      • 13253

      #37
      Originally posted by Duff85
      I see what you did there...
      Who did I leave out that is more deserving or a better team than any of those? Seriously....

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      • Cuse0323
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-09-09
        • 30169

        #38
        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
        believe you me,

        I was at the game in 06-07...

        If willy gay doesn't jump offsides when ito misses that kick we would of played for the NC!

        Payback time!
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        • Inkwell77
          SBR MVP
          • 02-03-11
          • 3227

          #39
          lol

          This is fukkin awesome.

          Although...

          Do know if Texas beats Kansas State I'm pretty sure Kent State won't be in the top 16 even if UCLA losses.
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          • rm18
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-20-05
            • 22291

            #40
            Originally posted by Inkwell77
            lol

            This is fukkin awesome.

            Although...

            Do know if Texas beats Kansas State I'm pretty sure Kent State won't be in the top 16 even if UCLA losses.

            They will go past somebody, a win over NIU is a pretty big win for votes and computers + they will pass NIU in the coaches poll giving them more points. Other teams like FSU, Nebraska, Boise that could lose plus I think they can pass an idle Oregon St. I would say over a 99% chance Kent St. is in the BCS with a win.
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            • ebbearsfb1
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-07-08
              • 18815

              #41
              You guys realize they don't pick the best teams for the bcs st large spots but who travel and bring the most money
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              • dmtrader
                SBR MVP
                • 09-26-09
                • 1320

                #42
                Those at large spots are money driven
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                • rm18
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-20-05
                  • 22291

                  #43
                  It is a guaranteed spot for Kent St. they dont have to be selected
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                  • paranoyd androyd
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-01-11
                    • 6459

                    #44
                    Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                    You guys realize they don't pick the best teams for the bcs st large spots but who travel and bring the most money
                    you're wrong. again.
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65644

                      #45
                      Originally posted by rm18
                      but would rather see those schools get a shot against a big time school
                      UCONN got a shot at a big time school and got taken to the woodshed.
                      I'd rather see the MAC winner play somebody like a UCLA than say an Oregon.
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                      • nvrlose37
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-01-12
                        • 2730

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                        believe you me,

                        I was at the game in 06-07...

                        If willy gay doesn't jump offsides when ito misses that kick we would of played for the NC!

                        Payback time!
                        Man, you are so fukking right! It wasn't the fact that Lville blew a 25-7 lead in the 4th quarter at all. That one offsides call was everything!
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                        • nvrlose37
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-01-12
                          • 2730

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Cuse0323
                          Ahah, all in good fun, hope you beat the most overrated team in the BE. We're a blocked FG for a TD against them from being the Champs.
                          Right because Cuse did so much else in the 2nd half of that game.
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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65644

                            #48
                            Originally posted by nvrlose37
                            Man, you are so fukking right! It wasn't the fact that Lville blew a 25-7 lead in the 4th quarter at all. That one offsides call was everything!

                            I remember the back page of the NY Daily News like it was yesterday.
                            Headline screamed

                            ​R U SERIOUS
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                            • ebbearsfb1
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-07-08
                              • 18815

                              #49
                              Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                              you're wrong. again.
                              again?? where was i wrong the first time in this thread?


                              and How so?


                              If i am wrong as you say,

                              how did Virginia Tech, and Michigan play for the Sugar Bowl last year then?

                              sugar bowl picked both tech and michigan over a higher ranked ksu team



                              if the teams are with in reason the bcs does not always select the best team but who they know will bring in the most money, travel, etc...


                              just look at some of the years nd has got in..

                              if you think the bcs and whole bowl process is anything other than a money grab your nuts
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                              • Brewers in 7
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-20-10
                                • 1363

                                #50
                                Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                                how in the fukk is oklahoma being projected for a BCS game? they won't have won their conference and their two toughest games were at home and they lost them both! fukk them!
                                It's college football, it's all about money, I mean Notre Dame isn't going to win a conference championship but they are still allowed in a BCS game, crock of you know what
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                                • paranoyd androyd
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-01-11
                                  • 6459

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                                  again?? where was i wrong the first time in this thread?


                                  and How so?


                                  If i am wrong as you say,

                                  how did Virginia Tech, and Michigan play for the Sugar Bowl last year then?

                                  sugar bowl picked both tech and michigan over a higher ranked ksu team



                                  if the teams are with in reason the bcs does not always select the best team but who they know will bring in the most money, travel, etc...


                                  just look at some of the years nd has got in..

                                  if you think the bcs and whole bowl process is anything other than a money grab your nuts
                                  i was referring to this MAC situation. you don't seem to grasp the fact that if a MAC team finishes #16 or better this year, they won't have to be selected for an at-large. of course all other at-larges are all about money, everyone's known that for 20+ years now.
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                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-07-08
                                    • 18815

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                                    i was referring to this MAC situation. you don't seem to grasp the fact that if a MAC team finishes #16 or better this year, they won't have to be selected for an at-large. of course all other at-larges are all about money, everyone's known that for 20+ years now.
                                    Where do I not seem to grasp it? Maybe read post 25 first before saying I'm wrong... team 10 Kent st if ucla loses if not than ou
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                                    • Machine Choice
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-12-08
                                      • 3997

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                      If they can get a matchup vs a Big Ten team, then sure. But every other matchup would be horrific to watch.
                                      Absolutely on the mark. Imagine a Kent State vs UF / UGA. Bones would be broken.
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                                      • dmtrader
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-26-09
                                        • 1320

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                                        i was referring to this MAC situation. you don't seem to grasp the fact that if a MAC team finishes #16 or better this year, they won't have to be selected for an at-large. of course all other at-larges are all about money, everyone's known that for 20+ years now.

                                        That's a really good point.

                                        I still don't see it happening, though. If Roethlisburger's 11-1 Miami Redhawks couldn't make it, why would Kent?
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65644

                                          #55
                                          Ball State went 12-0 in '08, was ranked #12 in the nation, got croaked by Buffalo in the title game, got an invite to the GMAC bowl, faced Tulsa, and got run out of the building in that game too.

                                          MAC has no business playing a big dog game.
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65644

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by dmtrader
                                            If Roethlisburger's 11-1 Miami Redhawks couldn't make it, why would Kent?

                                            Big Ben went 21 for 33 in that GMAC game against Louisville, popping for almost 400 yards in the air that game.
                                            Best RedHawk win ever.
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                                            • rm18
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-20-05
                                              • 22291

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                              Absolutely on the mark. Imagine a Kent State vs UF / UGA. Bones would be broken.
                                              Rutgers is about as physical as those teams
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                                              • paranoyd androyd
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-01-11
                                                • 6459

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by dmtrader
                                                That's a really good point.

                                                I still don't see it happening, though. If Roethlisburger's 11-1 Miami Redhawks couldn't make it, why would Kent?
                                                because of the BCS rule, which didn't apply to miami that year.

                                                this would be an auto bid for kent (or niu) if either finish #16 due to the AQ Big East not finishing above them. if #17 kent beats niu and #16 ucla loses to stanford, how in the world would kent not move up to #16?
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                                                • surffreak
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-10-10
                                                  • 211

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                                  Absolutely on the mark. Imagine a Kent State vs UF / UGA. Bones would be broken.
                                                  does everyone remember when everyone thought florida would kill BG in week 1. Then BGSU went to gainsville and should of beaten florida but lost because of 2 missed easy field goals which made them lose because of their kicker situation, the MAC gave florida a good scare. I think kent state will do the same with florida state.
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                                                  • Deuce
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                                                    • 01-12-08
                                                    • 29843

                                                    #60
                                                    -24.5 I think neutral field.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65644

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by surffreak
                                                      does everyone remember when everyone thought florida would kill BG in week 1. Then BGSU went to gainsville and should of beaten florida but lost because of 2 missed easy field goals which made them lose because of their kicker situation, the MAC gave florida a good scare. I think kent state will do the same with florida state.
                                                      That was week 1.
                                                      Big difference now.

                                                      Kent State or NIU would get STOMPED by any of the top 16 teams.
                                                      Not disrespecting those two programs, but they would be playing against better athletes that have played against competition two, maybe three levels higher than the MAC
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                        Wait so If Louisville wins thursday night they are not guaranteed the BCS GAME?
                                                        Big East Champ IS Guaranteed BCS Game, but it now looks like MAC Champ may be too, taking away an at-large from the Big Boys
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                                                        • surffreak
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 09-10-10
                                                          • 211

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          That was week 1.
                                                          Big difference now.

                                                          Kent State or NIU would get STOMPED by any of the top 16 teams.
                                                          Not disrespecting those two programs, but they would be playing against better athletes that have played against competition two, maybe three levels higher than the MAC
                                                          Really? because im pretty sure the MAC has a lot of good Non-conference wins. MAC has the credit it deserves. Better than the Big east and ACC this year if you take the top 8 teams in each conference.
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65644

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by surffreak
                                                            Really? because im pretty sure the MAC has a lot of good Non-conference wins. MAC has the credit it deserves. Better than the Big east and ACC this year if you take the top 8 teams in each conference.


                                                            11th best conference

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                                                            • surffreak
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 09-10-10
                                                              • 211

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by stevenash
                                                              because of the bottom 6 teams.... CBS has them ahead of the ACC and big east.
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                                                              • Inkwell77
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-03-11
                                                                • 3227

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by paranoyd androyd
                                                                because of the BCS rule, which didn't apply to miami that year.

                                                                this would be an auto bid for kent (or niu) if either finish #16 due to the AQ Big East not finishing above them. if #17 kent beats niu and #16 ucla loses to stanford, how in the world would kent not move up to #16?
                                                                This is not hard to understand. Look at the specific bcs score. If Texas beats Kansas State they will 100% be ranked ahead of Kent State in the BCS.

                                                                Right now Kent is at .2512 and Texas is at .2492.
                                                                If UCLA losses and Texas wins Texas will move to #16 or possibly #15 and pass Oregon State.

                                                                If Texas wins the only way Kent State gets into a BCS game is by hoping Florida State or Nebraska lose to hopefully pass them up or by hoping they get enough votes to move up .13 points in the BCS and pass Oregon State.

                                                                Note that South Carolina beat a highly ranked Clemson team last week and moved up .12 points.
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