Any New York lawyers on the forum?
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SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
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#1Any New York lawyers on the forum?Tags: None -
SmokeSBR Aristocracy
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Pew PewSBR MVP
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#3learn to post a link noobComment -
ttwarrior1BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 06-23-09
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#5against the law, 20 years each imoComment -
SmokeSBR Aristocracy
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HoltgetsbackSBR MVP
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#8what's next??
is the FBI gonna go after smith and wesson because some animals shot up a 7-11??
the USA is going to shitComment -
MUHerd37SBR Posting Legend
- 10-23-09
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#9This is ridiculous. No way they get convicted.Comment -
allingSBR MVP
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pokernut9999SBR Posting Legend
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#12They usually do not arrest people if it is not against the law.
Software is being used for illegal reasons.Comment -
ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#13Sounds like a bunch of simultaneous arrests on a large network of people.
Who knows exactly what the prosecutors are doing with these, but unless their is some obscure statute going on - there has to be more than the story suggests.
The biggest effect this will have is scare an already sketch group of people.Comment -
MadTigerSBR MVP
- 04-19-09
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#14There must be something that they aren't explicitly telling. E-mails? If you know that your customer is using your product or service for furtherance of an illegal enterprise, they can hang a conspiracy charge on you. Whether it's weak or not is up for the legal system.Comment -
billysinkRestricted User
- 03-29-09
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#15Had my guy look at this. He says that it is a pretty clear cut case for the prosecutors as the wire trail and bank transfer trail would likely be directly from US based agents to a US company using the US financial system. He is suprised that these folks were charged outside of the enterprise corruption blanket charges that were slapped on all participants and says this is precedent setting. Not a New York guy but offered an opinion.
Here is the law.
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ChalkyDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-11
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#16Had my guy look at this. He says that it is a pretty clear cut case for the prosecutors as the wire trail and bank transfer trail would likely be directly from US based agents to a US company using the US financial system. He is suprised that these folks were charged outside of the enterprise corruption blanket charges that were slapped on all participants and says this is precedent setting. Not a New York guy but offered an opinion.
Here is the law.
http://www.new-york-lawyers.org/lawy...y-1677385.html
Prosecutors can try all they want to stick weak charges on these guys. Good lawyers will be assigned to the defense, you wont hear about this for years.
In the meantime, it is scaring the shit out of a lot of people.Comment -
billysinkRestricted User
- 03-29-09
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#17I see nothing weak in the charges at all given the way the law is written.Comment -
billysinkRestricted User
- 03-29-09
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#18The only people who should be scared as a direct fallout from this latest round of charges is anyone who plays through a US based agent. Of course US players playing anywhere are always in the crosshairs.Comment -
billysinkRestricted User
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Anyone shocked at how closely their gambling money is tied to organized crime?Comment -
ZetaPsi808SBR Posting Legend
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#21Boner 18 would be the best poster to comment on thisComment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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#22More to it than just these 2
the Prosecutors are casting a wide netComment -
pokernut9999SBR Posting Legend
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#23Organized crime is connected to most all gambling.Comment -
billysinkRestricted User
- 03-29-09
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#24http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...ntent=National
How can they arrest a software company? Who will they go after next? The phone company or maybe forum owners(oh fuk)
Are you developing and profiting from any gambling related software?Comment -
InTheDrinkSBR Posting Legend
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#25popcornComment -
KindredSBR MVP
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#26It was developed explicitly for the purpose it was being used for. The problem is US agents were using it and paying a US company for the privilege. It was initially developed for the offshore industry.
Anyone shocked at how closely their gambling money is tied to organized crime?
Why not put gun manufacturers away when their guns are used for an unlawful purpose. Or even google, you can search for gambling and find websites that take bets illegally from U.S. citizens, they are promoting gambling
The ONLY way your argument about secret agents would hold any water is if the company gave specific instructions on how to use the software illegally. So not in general how to take a bet, but how to take a bet from an American. Kinda hard to imagine agents being able to pull that off without sounding like undercover agents
although their company, Extension Software, licensed the software only to bookmaking operations based in Costa Rica, the Caribbean and Canada — where such betting is legal.Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
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#27Boner18 is real life lawyer living in NYCComment -
KindredSBR MVP
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#28It was developed explicitly for the purpose it was being used for. The problem is US agents were using it and paying a US company for the privilege. It was initially developed for the offshore industry.
Anyone shocked at how closely their gambling money is tied to organized crime?Comment -
MUHerd37SBR Posting Legend
- 10-23-09
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#29It was developed explicitly for the purpose it was being used for. The problem is US agents were using it and paying a US company for the privilege. It was initially developed for the offshore industry.
Anyone shocked at how closely their gambling money is tied to organized crime?Comment -
DDTSBR MVP
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#30I can't imagine we have too many lawyers lurking aroundComment -
pokernut9999SBR Posting Legend
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billysinkRestricted User
- 03-29-09
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#32that makes no sense. The software is legal in the countries it was licensed to, and the company licensing it didn't take any bets.
Why not put gun manufacturers away when their guns are used for an unlawful purpose. Or even google, you can search for gambling and find websites that take bets illegally from U.S. citizens, they are promoting gambling
The ONLY way your argument about secret agents would hold any water is if the company gave specific instructions on how to use the software illegally. So not in general how to take a bet, but how to take a bet from an American. Kinda hard to imagine agents being able to pull that off without sounding like undercover agents
Thats from the article. How the hell can you argue that secret agents have an airtight case against a software company..Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
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#33I think they would have to show a causal connection between the developers and them covertly getting into the hands that got it into the hands of the NY Mob families.Comment -
KindredSBR MVP
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It's logical that anyone who makes software is responsible for how it's used, only a feeble mind would think otherwise. That's why the guy that made torrent software is in jail for life because people used it to pirate movies...oh wait he's a freeman WTFComment
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