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  • Bluehorseshoe
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-06
    • 15003

    #1
    I figure out my own NFL lines to see what's off...
    I'm pretty much dead on for all but three games.

    Eagles -3? (Should be a PK)
    Tenn only -3 1/2 (Should be 5 1/2)
    SF -7???? (Should be 2 1/2)


    How is SF -7? That has to be a trap game.
  • tto827
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-01-12
    • 9078

    #2
    People think Arizona is regressing to what everyone thought they would be at the start of the year, that explains the 7 there. I agree with the Eagles being a bad line, I thought PK also, hence why I'm taking ATL. You might be right on TENN but I wouldn't be willing to bet on it so I'm not going to say either way.
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    • Bluehorseshoe
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-06
      • 15003

      #3
      Originally posted by tto827
      People think Arizona is regressing to what everyone thought they would be at the start of the year, that explains the 7 there. I agree with the Eagles being a bad line, I thought PK also, hence why I'm taking ATL. You might be right on TENN but I wouldn't be willing to bet on it so I'm not going to say either way.

      I won't play into them. I'll play against my line if anything.

      There's a reason why I'm off.
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      • MJT1212
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-16-09
        • 5124

        #4
        lol its called handicapping...thats what your supposed to do...then bet where you deem there to be value
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        • HoulihansTX
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          • 02-12-09
          • 30566

          #5
          49ers will continue to kick FG's vs teams that have a clue on defense.
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          • Chi_archie
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-22-08
            • 63172

            #6
            I like it
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            • Big Bear
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-01-11
              • 43253

              #7
              my lines would be

              NY Giants -5.5 over Cowboys

              Bears -10 over Panthers

              Packers -20 over Jags

              49ers -4 over Cards

              Titans -6.5 over Colts

              Steelers -3.5 over Redskins

              Eagles -4 over Falcons

              Chargers -7.5 over Browns

              Seahawks -2.5 over Lions

              Raiders -6 over Chiefs

              Broncos - 4 over Saints

              Patriots -5.5 over Rams

              Jets -3.5 over Dolphins
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              • tto827
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-01-12
                • 9078

                #8
                Aren't the lions favored? Isn't that another significant difference?
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                • Monte
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-21-10
                  • 2056

                  #9
                  Titans are just not good enough to be favored by more
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                  • Bluehorseshoe
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-06
                    • 15003

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tto827
                    Aren't the lions favored? Isn't that another significant difference?

                    I had figured Detroit -3.

                    We really should do this every Sunday night in here.
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                    • tto827
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-01-12
                      • 9078

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                      I had figured Detroit -3.

                      We really should do this every Sunday night in here.
                      Oh, okay, you wrote Seahawks -2.5 in post 7 FYI.
                      And yes, discussions like this are why I joined here, not to watch JJ celebrate 3 of Brock's wins (although his videos were enjoyable)
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                      • Bluehorseshoe
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-13-06
                        • 15003

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tto827
                        Oh, okay, you wrote Seahawks -2.5 in post 7 FYI.
                        And yes, discussions like this are why I joined here, not to watch JJ celebrate 3 of Brock's wins (although his videos were enjoyable)
                        That wasn't me. lol
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                        • Bluehorseshoe
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-13-06
                          • 15003

                          #13
                          Here's what I guessed before looking.

                          Minny -8
                          Bears -8
                          SD -3
                          Det -3
                          Pats -7 1/2
                          Jets -3
                          Atl pk
                          Pitt -4
                          GB -14
                          Tenn -5 1/2
                          Raiders -1
                          Giants pk (Before Lee went down)
                          Denver -4 1/2
                          SF -2 1/2
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                          • ChalkyDog
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-02-11
                            • 9598

                            #14
                            I am not sure how you calculate yours, but them being that close to the vegas line screams of using Sagarin ratings.

                            If so, gotta offset his numbers by an average of at least 3-4 other services.

                            If not, that is pretty interesting.
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                            • JayLA
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-11-12
                              • 7806

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                              I am not sure how you calculate yours, but them being that close to the vegas line screams of using Sagarin ratings.

                              If so, gotta offset his numbers by an average of at least 3-4 other services.

                              If not, that is pretty interesting.
                              I was thinking about this at work. why are Sagarin's ratings so close to Vegas' lines?
                              what are some other public ratings or services I can compare vegas' lines to? thanks.
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                              • Easy-Rider 66
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                                • 02-14-12
                                • 36545

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                I'm pretty much dead on for all but three games.

                                Eagles -3? (Should be a PK)
                                Tenn only -3 1/2 (Should be 5 1/2)
                                SF -7???? (Should be 2 1/2)


                                How is SF -7? That has to be a trap game.
                                Agree that Eagle line should be a pk. But like the Eagle's even laying 3. NFL parity dictates that the Eagles should win this game. Big Home game for them and not so much for ATL. In addition, Eagles have not hit their stride all year and are due. Playing them and also like Detroit to win and AZ to cover.
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                                • Bluehorseshoe
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-06
                                  • 15003

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                  I am not sure how you calculate yours, but them being that close to the vegas line screams of using Sagarin ratings.

                                  If so, gotta offset his numbers by an average of at least 3-4 other services.

                                  If not, that is pretty interesting.
                                  I do not use any rating system. I just look at teams records and their last game. I'll put it up Sunday after the games are over.
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                                  • v1y
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-02-11
                                    • 1138

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                    I just look at teams records and their last game.
                                    People call this handicapping?
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                                    • bigballa
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 10-18-12
                                      • 429

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                      I'm pretty much dead on for all but three games.

                                      Eagles -3? (Should be a PK)
                                      Tenn only -3 1/2 (Should be 5 1/2)
                                      SF -7???? (Should be 2 1/2)




                                      How is SF -7? That has to be a trap game.
                                      agree with the philly game, its the usual thing spot the home team the 3.....atl are overrated imo but would take them in this one.....

                                      wouldnt touch the titans game if anything fancy the colts....

                                      sf -2.5?!?!???? can you look into setting up a website so i can bet this with you??? the vikes feasted on the qb last week i expect much of the same for sf, agreed 7 might be strong but never -2.5.....
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                                      • Bluehorseshoe
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-13-06
                                        • 15003

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by v1y
                                        People call this handicapping?
                                        Who said they did? I just use it as a guide.
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                                        • Bluehorseshoe
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-13-06
                                          • 15003

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bigballa

                                          sf -2.5?!?!???? can you look into setting up a website so i can bet this with you??? the vikes feasted on the qb last week i expect much of the same for sf, agreed 7 might be strong but never -2.5.....
                                          And the Vikings (at home!) won by 7 points. It's a divisional game against a team with a winning record. Laying 7 on the road is a ton.
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                                          • k13
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-16-10
                                            • 18104

                                            #22
                                            Making your own lines is good and all but ....

                                            Let's say you think Atlanta should be -3 but the line is Philly -3...

                                            Oh look at the value I'm getting now, 6 points on my line, well obviously I'm playing Atlanta +3.

                                            Complete opposite thinking.
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                                            • k13
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-16-10
                                              • 18104

                                              #23
                                              Team with a winning record....lol

                                              They might win 3 games the rest of the year and that's stretching it.
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                                              • Stevedore
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-10-10
                                                • 1218

                                                #24
                                                Division games are never trap games, just saying.
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                                                • Bluehorseshoe
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-13-06
                                                  • 15003

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by k13
                                                  Making your own lines is good and all but ....

                                                  Let's say you think Atlanta should be -3 but the line is Philly -3...

                                                  Oh look at the value I'm getting now, 6 points on my line, well obviously I'm playing Atlanta +3.

                                                  Complete opposite thinking.

                                                  What are you saying?
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                                                  • King Swizz
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                                                    • 10-23-12
                                                    • 105

                                                    #26
                                                    49ers will lose SU.
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