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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    Nicky Santoro, I am Still Game. Read Inside.
    I added two new sources to Rule #5 and included them in Rule #8.


    1 - Contest runs through Sunday, May 31, 2009. Each player must make EXACTLY 500 plays. If they do not make 500 plays, they lose automatically. If both players make 500 plays before May 31, 2009, the contest is over.

    2 - Available sports are NFL, CFB, NBA, CBB, NHL and MLB.

    3 - All wagers will be for one unit, and are to WIN one unit with favorites and RISKING one unit with underdogs.

    4 - Available wagers are ATS, Totals, and Money Lines (Dogs no more than +400, Favorites no more than -250). Only full game wagers are allowed, no halves or periods.

    5 - Available Books are Pinnacle, 5 Dimes and BetJamaica only. Line and book should be posted with each selection, and tiimestamp will be used to verify lines at EITHER SBRLines, Vegas Insider or SBR Odds Archives the following morning. If the line matches ANY of these three sources, it is acceptable.
    5a - An OBVIOUSLY bad line feed will be ignored and only the other two sources can be used in that case. This would be for wrong favorites or obviously off lines.

    6 - Players can post plays as often as they wish throught the day up until the SCHEDULED start times of the games. Players may NOT post after scheduled start times, even if the books leave the lines up because games have not actually started. Any past-posted play will be NO ACTION.

    7 - Once plays are posted, they can NOT be removed.

    8 - If you write a bad line for a game, the game will be graded based on the best avaialble line from the three sources in Rule #5 at the book that you post at the time that you post for the TEAM that you post. If you accidenatally write the wrong team, you are stuck with that team.

    9 - You may NOT edit a post that contains plays in it. If you edit a post, ALL PLAYS in the post will be graded as a LOSS.

    10 - You can not play both sides of the same game.

    11 - Any dispute will be forwarded to arbitor Diogee, whose decision will then be binding and final.

    12 - The winner will be the player with the most units.


    I want to keep the wager at $2,000 and I am willing to start from scratch despite havibg a 0.17 lead after Monday, to compensate for this contest not taking place yesterday.

    What do you say?
  • pico
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-05-07
    • 27321

    #2
    i don't think nicky wants to continue.
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    • RogueJuror
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-08-08
      • 10010

      #3
      You guys need a fair arbitrator or this will never work.

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      • pico
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 04-05-07
        • 27321

        #4
        i nominate rogie
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #5
          Why shouldn't it work as rules are worded now? Also, I have run many SBR contests flawllessly and I am fair, so there should not be a problem.
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          • wtf
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-22-08
            • 12983

            #6
            nicky, put up or shut up time!!
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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #7
              That said, if anyone sees a loophole in rules, just post it here and I will plug up. Of course, this is all contingent on Nicky accepting.
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              • DeluxeLiner
                SBR MVP
                • 01-29-08
                • 4132

                #8
                As I said in previous threads LT. How can you be sure that something will not arise deep into the contest? What then? Someone you can both agree on should arbitrate and rule on any disputes.
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                • diogee
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-11-08
                  • 19477

                  #9
                  Solid looking set of rules LT. Should be interesting to follow if Nicky accepts again. Best of luck.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    If the arbitor is ONLY used when there is a dispute, then fine. A mod would be nice, maybe willie bee or Ganchrow.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      I just added 5a.
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                      • RogueJuror
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-08-08
                        • 10010

                        #12
                        Yes, arbitrator only as a last resort. Diogee would do a good job I think.

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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          I agree, as long is Diogee is not doing CrazyL's slavework at the time.
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                          • diogee
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-11-08
                            • 19477

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                            I agree, as long is Diogee is not doing CrazyL's slavework at the time.

                            I am more than willing to help with any disputes/grading during the duration of the contest if needed.
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                            • DeluxeLiner
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-29-08
                              • 4132

                              #15
                              Nicky has to agree to Diogee being the unbiased arbitrator who will only come into play if there is a dispute. Hopefully Diogee won't have to do anything.
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #16
                                Great, Rule #11.
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DeluxeLiner
                                  Nicky has to agree to Diogee being the unbiased arbitrator who will only come into play if there is a dispute. Hopefully Diogee won't have to do anything.
                                  Well, he'd have to agree to ALL of the rules anyway.
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                                  • Bread
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-16-08
                                    • 23726

                                    #18
                                    This will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever happen.
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                                    • DeluxeLiner
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-29-08
                                      • 4132

                                      #19
                                      He pretty much agreed to all of those rules before so I don't know why he would not agree to these.

                                      I think diogee is a good choice. He won't be biased. I hope Nicky is down with dio as the arbitrator.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        Nicky is not signed in right now. I'll check back later.
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                                        • jtuck
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-18-08
                                          • 2051

                                          #21
                                          Last night in the Civil War thread I suggested keeping the records at what they are, giving him his +183, and agreeing from here on out to allow a couple other line services to be used and he said he would agree to it
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                                          • durito
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-03-06
                                            • 13173

                                            #22
                                            Number of times rule #11 comes into play:

                                            Over 23.5 -115
                                            Under 23.5 -115


                                            Good luck LT, but you are playing with fire.
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                                            • DeluxeLiner
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-29-08
                                              • 4132

                                              #23
                                              i will take the under, that is a lot of times.
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                                              • daggerkobe
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-25-08
                                                • 10744

                                                #24
                                                At least you finally admit 'Rule #5' was vague and useless.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  I doubt Nicky will accept

                                                  With contests there are going to be issues and battles and nicky never gives up with battles so we will see too many threads with descrepencies and long drawn out threads over it
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                                                  • SBR Lou
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-02-07
                                                    • 37863

                                                    #26
                                                    Might as well just do it and get it over with. If it doesn't happen there will always be remarks made here and there from both sides etc, leave it all on the playing field, 500 plays is enough to get a good handle on who is likely a sharper player.
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                                                    • LT Profits
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                      • 90963

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                      At least you finally admit 'Rule #5' was vague and useless.
                                                      No it wasn't vague at all, and I still don't see how you can possibly think it was. If the last update is 7:02 and timestamp is 7:05, the 7:02 line still holds. So what exactly is so vague?

                                                      All I did was add two other usable souces to the new rules.
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                                                      • Panic
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-06-08
                                                        • 10367

                                                        #28
                                                        I think Nicky will do it....if you up the ante, LT. I think he wants it worth his time if he's going to go through this much frustration. He wont want to continue @ 2k because of the games he may miss out on like in the first night. It might have to be upped to 4k or 5k for this to have a chance.
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #29
                                                          No, 2K or pass. That is big enough for me. I don't want to make is SO much that it makes me stress over this contest.
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                                                          • daggerkobe
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-25-08
                                                            • 10744

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                            No it wasn't vague at all, and I still don't see how you can possibly think it was. If the last update is 7:02 and timestamp is 7:05, the 7:02 line still holds. So what exactly is so vague?

                                                            All I did was add two other usable souces to the new rules.

                                                            I see you're still clueless about the meaning of verify.
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                                                            • durito
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-03-06
                                                              • 13173

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                              I see you're still clueless about the meaning of verify.
                                                              Did you drop out of middle school?
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                                                              • daggerkobe
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-25-08
                                                                • 10744

                                                                #32
                                                                Apparently all the lawyers dropped out of middle school, since they all agree with me.
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Name ONE person that agrees with you!

                                                                  Anyhow, academic at this point
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #34
                                                                    If there are updates at 7:00 and at 7:04, and timestamp is at 7:02, which line do we use?
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                                                                    • daggerkobe
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-25-08
                                                                      • 10744

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                      Name ONE person that agrees with you!

                                                                      Anyhow, academic at this point

                                                                      Yesterday, 03:42 AM #133 (permalink)
                                                                      Boner_18
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                                                                      Quote:
                                                                      Originally Posted by MartinBlank
                                                                      I have no vested side here.

                                                                      But just one question. If they both agreed beforehand on using SBR Odds, why is this an issue? U-S-E- the lines you agreed on.

                                                                      If they both agreed SBR Odds are going to be used....whether they suck or not is irrelevant.......if that is what is agreed upon, then anyone trying to change the rules would be wrong.

                                                                      It isn't rocket science. It is a pissing contest.

                                                                      They didn't agree to "use" SBR Odds. Rule 5 seems to point out that Pinny, BetJam and 5 Dimes lines are the ones used. The verification process involves SBR Odds.

                                                                      I feel like I'm back in my first year of law school taking a contracts exam... Analysis to follow...

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