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  • Madison
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-16-11
    • 6455

    #1
    Teasers suck??? Then why ...
    Everyone I have is increasing vig on teasers. Bkmr for one. If they're unbeatable then why???

    Not liking paying 20C on 2 team 6 pt. Not buying extra pts!!
  • Albert Pujols
    SBR MVP
    • 06-01-10
    • 1670

    #2
    They are very beatable in certain spots in the NFL, and books have known this for years.
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    • Madison
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-16-11
      • 6455

      #3
      Originally posted by Albert Pujols
      They are very beatable in certain spots in the NFL, and books have known this for years.
      I agree. Must be others (complaining about teasers) who don't know how to use them correctly.
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      • playersonly69
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-04-08
        • 12827

        #4
        People will bet them anyway. Truth is that 95% of the players at Bookmaker couldnt give a damn. Those same guys would bet everything at -120 if that is all that was offered.


        Probably way less than 1% of bookmakers customers have ever even heard of gambling forums. They get customers based on their name alone just like sportsbook.com gets tens of thousands of customers
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        • slacker00
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-06-05
          • 12262

          #5
          Yeah, amazing how much -120 I've seen this year, used to be -105 was easy to find. I pass if I see anything at -120.
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          • Bill Dozer
            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
            • 07-12-05
            • 10894

            #6
            You cleaned up if you bet teasers this weekend. Problem with teasers for the books is that when it rains it pours. It seems like if you tease any total this season you win that leg. If numbers did get sharper and were even better predictors of the final score, book could lose if they don't adjust the payouts. And with less competition out there, books dont have to pay those good ol days odds unfortunately. Eventually, teasers will be sucker bets for real. =(
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              I bet them
              They always look good
              I do not give a fuk about juice
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              • imarkp
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-05-12
                • 233

                #8
                hate paying heavy vig buying pts but its saved my butt several times, sometimes gotta get to key numbers 3 and 7, and getting to 3.5 and 7.5 has been dif between winnning and push. been doing extremly well betting teasers
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                • Madison
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-16-11
                  • 6455

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  I bet them
                  They always look good
                  I do not give a fuk about juice
                  JJ you were schooled by Brock right? "It's not juice if you win".
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                  • Fry
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 10-22-12
                    • 84

                    #10
                    Im getting 3-team 10.5pt teasers at -120, is this good juice?
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                    • imarkp
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 10-05-12
                      • 233

                      #11
                      yes, I'm getting 10 pts at -120 I'm pretty sure thats the norm. where you getting 10.5?
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                      • Fry
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 10-22-12
                        • 84

                        #12
                        Originally posted by imarkp
                        yes, I'm getting 10 pts at -120 I'm pretty sure thats the norm. where you getting 10.5?
                        At 5 dimes with the "point mover" program.
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                        • slacker00
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-06-05
                          • 12262

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                          You cleaned up if you bet teasers this weekend. Problem with teasers for the books is that when it rains it pours. It seems like if you tease any total this season you win that leg. If numbers did get sharper and were even better predictors of the final score, book could lose if they don't adjust the payouts. And with less competition out there, books dont have to pay those good ol days odds unfortunately. Eventually, teasers will be sucker bets for real. =(
                          Not to hijack the thread, but how do we get more competition out there? Change in U.S. law? Just thinking out loud.

                          Anyway, this looks like another great NFL teaser week, almost every side is on a good teaser number:

                          WagerType:8 team teaser
                          Date: Team:
                          Oct 22 NFL [438] CHICAGO -½-110 (B+6)
                          Oct 25 NFL [104] MINNESOTA -½-110 (B+6)
                          Oct 28 NFL [219] NEW ENGLAND -½-110 (B+6)
                          Oct 28 NFL [227] ATLANTA +8½-110 (B+6)
                          Oct 28 NFL [231] MIAMI +8½-110 (B+6)
                          Oct 28 NFL [237] OAKLAND +7½-110 (B+6)
                          Oct 28 NFL [240] DALLAS +7-110 (B+6)
                          Oct 29 NFL [243] SAN FRANCISCO -½-110 (B+6)
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                          • MeatWad
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-18-12
                            • 1572

                            #14
                            I rarely use them, but it is never bad looking for teaser spots. I like having action on primetime NFL, and took SF-Chi this week for my first teaser of the year. Two of the best defenses in the league getting 6 more points. It also was very close to meeting Wong teaser criteria, we skipped a few crucial numbers on both teases, never a bad thing.
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                            • odog11
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-14-11
                              • 3874

                              #15
                              Bears -1 in 5 point tease for me tonight, other play open. Like the under, but could be points off turnovers.
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                              • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-05-10
                                • 2896

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                You cleaned up if you bet teasers this weekend. Problem with teasers for the books is that when it rains it pours. It seems like if you tease any total this season you win that leg. If numbers did get sharper and were even better predictors of the final score, book could lose if they don't adjust the payouts. And with less competition out there, books dont have to pay those good ol days odds unfortunately. Eventually, teasers will be sucker bets for real. =(
                                sounds like this is what is happening...
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                                • ThaTopMoron
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-30-10
                                  • 27020

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Madison
                                  Everyone I have is increasing vig on teasers. Bkmr for one. If they're unbeatable then why???

                                  Not liking paying 20C on 2 team 6 pt. Not buying extra pts!!
                                  bookmaker is increasing vig on them because i hit 75% of the teasers i play with them

                                  they have freaking awesome nfl teasers 6 to 7 pt up to 8 or even 9 pt teaser on 2 teamers
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                                  • RonPaul2008
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-08-07
                                    • 6741

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Madison
                                    Everyone I have is increasing vig on teasers. Bkmr for one. If they're unbeatable then why???

                                    Not liking paying 20C on 2 team 6 pt. Not buying extra pts!!
                                    They can be good, but only in when they cross both 3 and 7 in the NFL. With the new juice though, it might not have any value anymore.
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                                    • Madison
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-16-11
                                      • 6455

                                      #19
                                      Some good input thanks.

                                      Rule one is the quality of the KEY points you acquire and where you land numbers wise. Not buying dead numbers i.e. 7.5-9.5. Of course throwing in some decent handicapping helps.

                                      I have a full set of rules developed over 40 years of successful teaser betting. No I'm not sharing them all here.

                                      One point I think worth making is this ... 6 point teasers have way more value relative to the line than the total. Pure simple fact. I'm the first guy to promote and play 13 pt totals but no way am I buying 6 points on totals especially the higher they get. I had friend try to convince me that buying a 84 pt total down to 78 was OK. The total ended up like 120 ish.

                                      GL men!
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        ppl around here always bang on them especially some of the resident wanna be sharps but i have a thread full of teaser winners,,long as you keep them to 2 teams and dont do the wrong things they are great in nfl, for me anyway....
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                                        • MeatWad
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-18-12
                                          • 1572

                                          #21
                                          My first teaser of the year worked perfectly, 49'ers and Bears, both needed the 6 pts to cover. I look for spots were the 6 pts are more meaningful, such as sides with low projected totals, and obviously the Wong teaser criteria.

                                          But I seldom if ever bet them, as generally they are a much more -EV investment than straight bets.
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                                          • Madison
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-16-11
                                            • 6455

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                                            They can be good, but only in when they cross both 3 and 7 in the NFL. With the new juice though, it might not have any value anymore.
                                            Your comment seems somewhat "old school" teaser concentrict. Take all the totals this week and add and subtract 13 from all. For instance SF/Sea was about as good as it gets under and in my mind reduced my total exposure from 4 teams to 3. On the average week you can find 3 games (I know I'm not supposed to say it but "near locks") to go over or under.
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                                            • Madison
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-16-11
                                              • 6455

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                              ppl around here always bang on them especially some of the resident wanna be sharps but i have a thread full of teaser winners,,long as you keep them to 2 teams and dont do the wrong things they are great in nfl, for me anyway....
                                              Banker you need to open your mind to 13 pt totals. I've even got Biffer thinking.
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                                              • Madison
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-16-11
                                                • 6455

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                                bookmaker is increasing vig on them because i hit 75% of the teasers i play with them

                                                they have freaking awesome nfl teasers 6 to 7 pt up to 8 or even 9 pt teaser on 2 teamers
                                                Good for you TTM. I'm running a little higher % across 2 books but I've doubled at Bkmr.
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                                                • 2daBank
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Madison
                                                  Some good input thanks.

                                                  Rule one is the quality of the KEY points you acquire and where you land numbers wise. Not buying dead numbers i.e. 7.5-9.5. Of course throwing in some decent handicapping helps.

                                                  I have a full set of rules developed over 40 years of successful teaser betting. No I'm not sharing them all here.

                                                  One point I think worth making is this ... 6 point teasers have way more value relative to the line than the total. Pure simple fact. I'm the first guy to promote and play 13 pt totals but no way am I buying 6 points on totals especially the higher they get. I had friend try to convince me that buying a 84 pt total down to 78 was OK. The total ended up like 120 ish.

                                                  GL men!
                                                  i tend to lean toward dogs in what i think will be defensive battles in my teasersand while i understand the total thing many times i like the total with the dog on 6 and 7 point teasers as the way the nfl gay ass rules are that extra cushion has saved me quite a bit,,back in the day i would never have teased the total but now days even when i feel i have a 3-4 point discrepancy on a under it nice to push that bitch to what i feel is more than 7-10 as that kinda takes away the random bs pass interference/roughing call drive that fukk up a good thing so many times....
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                                                  • 2daBank
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 88966

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Madison
                                                    Banker you need to open your mind to 13 pt totals. I've even got Biffer thinking.
                                                    yea my bro in law been doing them for years, i just cant wrap my mind around having to hit 4 teams...2 teamers have severed me well..
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                                                    • Madison
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-16-11
                                                      • 6455

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                      yea my bro in law been doing them for years, i just cant wrap my mind around having to hit 4 teams...2 teamers have severed me well..
                                                      Try adding and subtracting the 13 from the totals and test a few.
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                                                      • Madison
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-16-11
                                                        • 6455

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Madison
                                                        Try adding and subtracting the 13 from the totals and test a few.
                                                        BTW , NFL NOT NCAA. NCAA Was my downfall last year as inevitably there's always one weirdo result it seems.
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                                                        • ThaWoj
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 03-09-10
                                                          • 6764

                                                          #29
                                                          absolutely love playin nfl 13 point teasers on underdogs on 5dimes' shaded chalk lines. I agree with madison, i dont think teasing totals is effective, especially in hoops or college fb.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                                            absolutely love playin nfl 13 point teasers on underdogs on 5dimes' shaded chalk lines. I agree with madison, i dont think teasing totals is effective, especially in hoops or college fb.
                                                            asw i said only time i do is nfl when i am teasing dog in what i think will be defensive struggle and the under correlates nicely imo...
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                                                            • fergie's balls
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 02-07-11
                                                              • 940

                                                              #31
                                                              Woj, what does 4 teamer end up at with 13pt tease at 5dimes? How many teams needed to get to even? Thanks.
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                                                              • ThaWoj
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 6764

                                                                #32
                                                                13 pt tease ties reduce 4 teamer is -130.

                                                                Lemme check but i think 5 teams is even (might be ties lose tho)
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                                                                • ThaWoj
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                                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                                  • 6764

                                                                  #33
                                                                  5 teams is +105 ties reduce, +115 ties lose. The 4 teamer ties lose is -110.
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                                                                  • ThaWoj
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                                    • 6764

                                                                    #34
                                                                    U can tease 20 points on 5dimes but u gotta lay some serious wood to do so
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                                                                    • fergie's balls
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-07-11
                                                                      • 940

                                                                      #35
                                                                      20 pts is nuts. 13 pts with 4 teams seems to be the play. 5 teams is one too many. Gonna give it a shot this weekend, small, for test. Thanks.
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