Crazy Fight happened at the Casino tonight, who was at fault guys?

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  • Astros148
    SBR MVP
    • 12-11-10
    • 1417

    #1
    Crazy Fight happened at the Casino tonight, who was at fault guys?
    damn guys crazy shit to report. was at poker room in lake charles, was playing 2/5 when this crazy hand. Player in cutoff position was playing really loose and the table itself had alot of donks. I get QJ suited and raise preflop to 30 bucks and i get 3 callers. I have the best position at this time out of everyone in the hand.

    Flop comes out QJ9 rainbow flop. First guy bets 60 , second guy calls 60 , third guy calls 60, and i shove all in to prevent any draws for another 210. First guy calls my 210, second guy goes all in for his last 180'ish, and third guy goes in tank mode and finally mucks his hand but when he does he throws his hand towards player two not sure if by purpose or accident and his cards land ontop of his and dealer mucks both hands!! player 2 gets up starts screaming floor manager comes and n says hand ismucked and guy nfl tackles player 3 and starts smashing him!! blow after blow and security came and took him off and player 3 gets sent to hospital for cuts and bruises and player 2 gets arrested. we find out player 2 later has k 10 for nut straight!

    player 2 had AQ for top pair top kicker but i ended up winning the pot.
  • baskets
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-24-11
    • 11691

    #2
    too distracted by your black guy avatar to read that shit


    why does 90% of sbr have a black avatar?

    jesus
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    • The Giant
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-21-12
      • 21480

      #3
      Why are you raising six times the big blind?
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      • Astros148
        SBR MVP
        • 12-11-10
        • 1417

        #4
        Originally posted by The Giant
        Why are you raising six times the big blind?
        thats what a typical raise was on that table,not once did anyone raise to 10-20 preflop. min raise was 25 it seemed
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        • keramas
          SBR High Roller
          • 08-09-12
          • 118

          #5
          You are very lucky
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          • Astros148
            SBR MVP
            • 12-11-10
            • 1417

            #6
            yes lol i understood that
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            • Iwinyourmoney
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-18-07
              • 18368

              #7
              1st of all you played that hand the worse possible way.

              Qj9 *rainbow* and you go all in to prevent any calls?

              First of all the guy who called you with AQ for 180ish is just going with pot odds as he's already way committed and all in.

              With that board and 4 players I would hope you knew you wherent winning. Sure call the 60$ bet but if you don't boat up on the turn go away.

              With 3 callers behind you of the 60$ how could you possibly think you where ahead?
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              • SBR Lou
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-02-07
                • 37863

                #8
                Why not tackle the dealer instead? Amateur move on his part. The guy is in the hand with money committed, and he mucks his hand, doesn't realize he's dragging four cards?
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                • manny24
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-22-07
                  • 20046

                  #9
                  stros you were the luckiest guy at the casino tonite...you were behind the whole way even after the river and still won the pot unreal...and ringside seats to an awesome fight...if true sounds like a great night...if not still cool story...either way never fukkin heard of you.
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                  • sweethook
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-21-07
                    • 12667

                    #10
                    just cant find a friendly game anymore it seams , everone playin now days are playin for a livin , gl
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                    • Iwinyourmoney
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-18-07
                      • 18368

                      #11
                      Originally posted by manny24
                      stros you were the luckiest guy at the casino tonite...you were behind the whole way even after the river and still won the pot unreal...and ringside seats to an awesome fight...if true sounds like a great night...if not still cool story...either way never fukkin heard of you.
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                      • wtt0315
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-18-07
                        • 8037

                        #12
                        Actually the luckiest guy at the casino is the one who got tackled. Now he will sue the person who attacked him and the casino and get 3 or 400 k in damages
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                        • dumbmoney
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-26-11
                          • 235

                          #13
                          Player 3 should have protected his cards so its really his own fault, but Player 2 shouldn't have mucked them so carelessly. I've actually seen a protected hand get mucked once because a player mucked the cards so they still mixed up with another players hand even though he had a chip over them. To be honest I don't think you played the hand badly. Once you decide you are not going to fold the flop (which is reasonable since the flop bet was about 1/2 or a little less of the pot) then shoving at that point is the right move. The guy that said call the $60 on the turn and then fold if you don't boat is giving the worst advice. You have 4 outs for a boat, on the turn alone it coming is worse than 10-1. That means you would have to make $600 (not including your money that you are putting in on the turn and river) to make the odds worth while for calling $60. Since there is only like $300 in the pot already and most others seem to have $150-$200 left behind you're not getting the odds to call $60 to chase the boat for one street.
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                          • BigDeem5
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-26-11
                            • 17191

                            #14
                            I can't believe the guy with K10 got screwed that hardly.
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                            • mikejamm
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-24-09
                              • 11047

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baskets
                              too distracted by your black guy avatar to read that shit


                              why does 90% of sbr have a black avatar?

                              jesus
                              That's Bob Marley you ignorant fuk! How fuk'in uneducated about culture and music are you anyway?
                              Jesus was black by the way!Yep, Jewish black guy, just had lighter skin.
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                              • Monitor-Tan
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-20-11
                                • 4460

                                #16
                                Or... was he a white jewish guy but darker skin......
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                                • Ian
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-09-09
                                  • 6076

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SBR Lou
                                  Why not tackle the dealer instead? Amateur move on his part. The guy is in the hand with money committed, and he mucks his hand, doesn't realize he's dragging four cards?
                                  The dealer did what he was technically supposed to. It's the player's responsibility to protect his hand. That's why you see poker players put a chip or card protector over their cards. Once two players cards are mixed together both hands are dead.

                                  That said, a better course of action from the dealer would have been to call the floor over. If the player who folded can name the cards he mucked then most floors will allow those cards to be turned face up and the player's hand will not be killed. Nevertheless, it wasn't an "amateur move" by the dealer.
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                                  • str
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-12-09
                                    • 11786

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Monitor-Tan
                                    Or... was he a white jewish guy but darker skin......
                                    Just real sun burned , like Kramer when he fell asleep under the tanning lights.
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                                    • snoopaloop31
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 11-22-11
                                      • 422

                                      #19
                                      New way to collude when I have a friend at the poker table with me.
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                                      • thetrinity
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-25-11
                                        • 22430

                                        #20
                                        guy should have protected his hand, own fault.
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                                        • thetrinity
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-25-11
                                          • 22430

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
                                          1st of all you played that hand the worse possible way.

                                          Qj9 *rainbow* and you go all in to prevent any calls?

                                          First of all the guy who called you with AQ for 180ish is just going with pot odds as he's already way committed and all in.

                                          With that board and 4 players I would hope you knew you wherent winning. Sure call the 60$ bet but if you don't boat up on the turn go away.

                                          With 3 callers behind you of the 60$ how could you possibly think you where ahead?
                                          is this a level of some sort
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                                          • thetrinity
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-25-11
                                            • 22430

                                            #22
                                            i dont like the raise myself if u only have 240 in a loose game, these other players obviously limped in since u have position on them.
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                                            • milwaukee mike
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-22-07
                                              • 26914

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ian
                                              The dealer did what he was technically supposed to. It's the player's responsibility to protect his hand. That's why you see poker players put a chip or card protector over their cards. Once two players cards are mixed together both hands are dead.

                                              That said, a better course of action from the dealer would have been to call the floor over. If the player who folded can name the cards he mucked then most floors will allow those cards to be turned face up and the player's hand will not be killed. Nevertheless, it wasn't an "amateur move" by the dealer.


                                              this would've been the proper move by the dealer, since there was no further betting allowed (all-ins)
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                                              • thetrinity
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-25-11
                                                • 22430

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by milwaukee mike


                                                this would've been the proper move by the dealer, since there was no further betting allowed (all-ins)
                                                ive seen this done but his hand should have been protected at any rate. happened to that french girl in the wsop.
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                                                • milwaukee mike
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-22-07
                                                  • 26914

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                  ive seen this done but his hand should have been protected at any rate. happened to that french girl in the wsop.
                                                  very true, in order of fault here imho (pre-fight):
                                                  1) guy that mucks his cards on top of someone else's
                                                  2) guy that doesn't protect his cards
                                                  3) dealer that doesn't at least call the floor over, when there's a $900 pot at stake
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                                                  • FuzzyDunlop
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-15-11
                                                    • 2422

                                                    #26
                                                    There seems to be a ton of aggression in the poker rooms the last year. I was at Foxwoods Tuesday night and thought I was going to get thumped on.
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                                                    • marcoloco
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-05-10
                                                      • 3986

                                                      #27
                                                      cant put the blame on 1 person, crazy story tho
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                                                      • daneblazer
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 09-14-08
                                                        • 27861

                                                        #28
                                                        You should have jumped on the poker table and delivered a Macho Man elbow drop to the guy while he was on the ground.
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                                                        • Krashman
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-24-09
                                                          • 3749

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Giant
                                                          Why are you raising six times the big blind?
                                                          Originally posted by Astros148
                                                          Player in cutoff position was playing really loose and the table itself had alot of donks.
                                                          ...
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                                                          • Krashman
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-24-09
                                                            • 3749

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by FuzzyDunlop
                                                            There seems to be a ton of aggression in the poker rooms the last year. I was at Foxwoods Tuesday night and thought I was going to get thumped on.
                                                            "Aggression wins pots"

                                                            People taking that poker advice too seriously.
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                                                            • KingJD31
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-04-11
                                                              • 8167

                                                              #31
                                                              Stick a fork in me Jerry, I'm done
                                                              Originally posted by str
                                                              Just real sun burned , like Kramer when he fell asleep under the tanning lights.
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                                                              • FuzzyDunlop
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-15-11
                                                                • 2422

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by marcoloco
                                                                cant put the blame on 1 person, crazy story tho
                                                                Anyone that gets so mad that their solution is assaulting someone else gets 100% of the blame. If the floor doesn't give you the answer you're seeking, ask for floor manager. If their ruling seems wrong, ask for gaming commission.

                                                                I was in a 2/5 Tuesday night when a new player sat in the 7 seat. I was BB in the 1 seat, solid reg in the 3 seat. 7 on the button for the first time. 3 pops it to 25, 7 calls on the button, I see 88 and call. Flop is Kd4s8s. I fire out 50 hoping a K tries to protect if I'm betting a draw, 3 seat calls, 7 calls. Turn comes Th. I check 3 fires 120, 7 raises to 300. I tank and jam, 3 takes a bit and calls, 7 beats him in the pot.

                                                                This is where it gets crazy as the dealer is finishing the side pot and dealing the river, 3 asks me if I have a set. I say yeah, but not kings. 7 from the other end of the table with headphones in loudly says 'YOU HAVE A SET OF KINGS?!?!" and before I can even turn my head to him, he throws his hand in the muck when a 2 hits the river. I turn over my 88, 3 shows his 44. 7 loses his shit because he mucked TT.

                                                                For about 10 minutes he's giving me all sorts of shit, I better get a guard to leave blah, blah, blah.
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                                                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 19734

                                                                  #33
                                                                  this shit would've never happened online. but when you play live, always put a chip or a card protector over your hand. that's the first thing i learned...
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                                                                  • raydog
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-07-07
                                                                    • 6984

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
                                                                    1st of all you played that hand the worse possible way.

                                                                    Qj9 *rainbow* and you go all in to prevent any calls?

                                                                    First of all the guy who called you with AQ for 180ish is just going with pot odds as he's already way committed and all in.

                                                                    With that board and 4 players I would hope you knew you wherent winning. Sure call the 60$ bet but if you don't boat up on the turn go away.

                                                                    With 3 callers behind you of the 60$ how could you possibly think you where ahead?


                                                                    please, dear god, stick to bingo!
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                                                                    • daneblazer
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 09-14-08
                                                                      • 27861

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The craziest thing I've ever had to do is give someone the Heimlich maneuver at the table. I'm a big guy... I've used my size to stand up for people getting berated at the table especially old people and women, even broken up a fight or two, but I've never once had to deal with anyone talking down on me at a live table. I guess that's a good thing? They probably see me as some dumb meat head, which helps me even more.
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