So who was the better all around starting pitcher for their career?

CMNoney · 09-26-12, 01:30 PM

Maddux definitely had the better career. Pedro's dominance didn't last long enough.

But both are their absolute best, I would take Pedro.

Vegas39 · 09-26-12, 01:32 PM

Maddux IMO

Monitor-Tan · 09-26-12, 01:37 PM

Mad Dog

Jericholic · 09-26-12, 01:38 PM

Pedro as his peak was a force of nature but unfortunately his peak was relatively short, Maddux was great over a much longer period of time, I'd take Maddux.

Monitor-Tan · 09-26-12, 01:42 PM

I know you don't want stats and etc, but I do want to point this out and I just felt this is a biggie..

15 wins 17 years in a row is unheard of...

a RIGHTIE who doesn't throw 90MPH who played the entire decade of "steroid era" with his era IS UNHEARD Of..

He just brought a whole different approach to pitching..

That change up, smarts, and precision control with insane movement and good work ethics is more then enough to get you to become a hall of famer even when "others are cheating" (sterioid era) is a feat of it's own I believe..

UntilTheNDofTimE · 09-26-12, 01:46 PM

Pedro in prime
maddux for career

will2survive · 09-26-12, 01:58 PM

Maddux 15 wins in 17 consecutive seasons. Pinpoint control. Definition of STEADY. Pedro had bigger moments but I'll always take the more reliable player and that's Greg Maddux

Vesuvius · 09-26-12, 02:06 PM

for some reason I knew before looking Maddux would be in here... Maddux by far for better career

Ghenghis Kahn · 09-26-12, 02:13 PM

probably maddux but i'd take pedro in his prime.

i remember that allstar game where pedro struck out the first three batters with 9 pitches or something like that...

ttwarrior1 · 09-26-12, 02:14 PM

maddux could also field and hit, not even close imo

3PtShooter · 09-26-12, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by ttwarrior1

maddux could also field and hit, not even close imo

Maddux was excellent at moving runners and hitting,,,,

Sol Diablo · 09-26-12, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE

Pedro in prime
maddux for career

This.

lakerboy · 09-26-12, 05:11 PM

Maddux was a no show when it counted.

stevenash · 09-26-12, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Maddux was a no show when it counted.

Postseason Pitching

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1989	23	CHC	NL	NLCS	L	SFG	0	1	.000	13.50	2	2	0	0	0	0	7.1	13	12	11	2	4	2	5	1	0	1	40	2.318	16.0	2.5	4.9	6.1	1.25

1993	27	ATL	NL	NLCS	L	PHI	1	1	.500	4.97	2	2	0	0	0	0	12.2	11	8	7	2	7	1	11	0	0	0	58	1.421	7.8	1.4	5.0	7.8	1.57

1995	29	ATL	NL	NLDS	W	COL	1	0	1.000	4.50	2	2	0	0	0	0	14.0	19	7	7	3	2	1	7	1	0	0	58	1.500	12.2	1.9	1.3	4.5	3.50
1995	29	ATL	NL	NLCS	W	CIN	1	0	1.000	1.13	1	1	0	0	0	0	8.0	7	1	1	0	2	0	4	1	0	1	34	1.125	7.9	0.0	2.3	4.5	2.00
1995	29	ATL	NL	WS	W	CLE	1	1	.500	2.25	2	2	0	1	0	0	16.0	9	6	4	1	3	1	8	0	0	0	60	0.750	5.1	0.6	1.7	4.5	2.67
1996	30	ATL	NL	NLDS	W	LAD	1	0	1.000	0.00	1	1	0	0	0	0	7.0	3	2	0	0	0	0	7	0	0	0	24	0.429	3.9	0.0	0.0	9.0
1996	30	ATL	NL	NLCS	W	STL	1	1	.500	2.51	2	2	0	0	0	0	14.1	15	9	4	1	2	1	10	0	0	1	61	1.186	9.4	0.6	1.3	6.3	5.00
1996	30	ATL	NL	WS	L	NYY	1	1	.500	1.72	2	2	0	0	0	0	15.2	14	3	3	0	1	0	5	1	0	0	59	0.957	8.0	0.0	0.6	2.9	5.00
1997	31	ATL	NL	NLDS	W	HOU	1	0	1.000	1.00	1	1	0	1	0	0	9.0	7	1	1	0	1	0	6	0	0	0	33	0.889	7.0	0.0	1.0	6.0	6.00
1997	31	ATL	NL	NLCS	L	FLA	0	2	.000	1.38	2	2	0	0	0	0	13.0	9	7	2	0	4	1	16	1	0	0	53	1.000	6.2	0.0	2.8	11.1	4.00
1998	32	ATL	NL	NLDS	W	CHC	1	0	1.000	2.57	1	1	0	0	0	0	7.0	7	2	2	0	0	0	4	0	0	0	28	1.000	9.0	0.0	0.0	5.1
1998	32	ATL	NL	NLCS	L	SDP	0	1	.000	3.00	2	1	1	0	0	1	6.0	5	2	2	0	3	1	4	1	0	0	27	1.333	7.5	0.0	4.5	6.0	1.33
1999	33	ATL	NL	NLDS	W	HOU	0	1	.000	2.57	2	1	0	0	0	0	7.0	10	2	2	1	5	2	5	0	0	0	32	2.143	12.9	1.3	6.4	6.4	1.00
1999	33	ATL	NL	NLCS	W	NYM	1	0	1.000	1.93	2	2	0	0	0	0	14.0	12	3	3	1	1	0	7	0	0	0	55	0.929	7.7	0.6	0.6	4.5	7.00
1999	33	ATL	NL	WS	L	NYY	0	1	.000	2.57	1	1	0	0	0	0	7.0	5	4	2	0	3	0	5	0	0	0	29	1.143	6.4	0.0	3.9	6.4	1.67
2000	34	ATL	NL	NLDS	L	STL	0	1	.000	11.25	1	1	0	0	0	0	4.0	9	7	5	1	3	2	2	0	0	0	25	3.000	20.3	2.3	6.8	4.5	0.67
2001	35	ATL	NL	NLDS	W	HOU	0	0		3.00	1	1	0	0	0	0	6.0	4	3	2	1	3	0	5	0	0	0	24	1.167	6.0	1.5	4.5	7.5	1.67
2001	35	ATL	NL	NLCS	L	ARI	0	2	.000	5.40	2	2	0	0	0	0	10.0	14	8	6	0	2	1	7	1	0	0	48	1.600	12.6	0.0	1.8	6.3	3.50
2002	36	ATL	NL	NLDS	L	SFG	1	0	1.000	3.00	1	1	0	0	0	0	6.0	5	2	2	1	1	1	3	1	0	0	23	1.000	7.5	1.5	1.5	4.5	3.00
2003	37	ATL	NL	NLDS	L	CHC	0	1	.000	3.00	1	1	0	0	0	0	6.0	6	2	2	0	1	0	1	0	0	1	26	1.167	9.0	0.0	1.5	1.5	1.00

2006	40	LAD	NL	NLDS	L	NYM	0	0		9.00	1	1	0	0	0	0	4.0	7	4	4	0	2	1	0	1	0	0	21	2.250	15.8	0.0	4.5	0.0	0.00

2008	42	LAD	NL	NLDS	W	CHC	0	0		0.00	1	0	1	0	0	0	1.0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	1.000	9.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
2008	42	LAD	NL	NLCS	L	PHI	0	0		0.00	2	0	0	0	0	0	3.0	3	2	0	0	1	1	3	0	0	0	14	1.333	9.0	0.0	3.0	9.0	3.00
13 Yrs (23 Series)							11	14	.440	3.27	35	30	2	2	0	1	198.0	195	97	72	14	51	16	125	9	0	4	836	1.242	8.9	0.6	2.3	5.7	2.45
11 NLDS							5	3	.625	3.42	13	11	1	1	0	0	71.0	78	32	27	7	18	7	40	3	0	1	298	1.352	9.9	0.9	2.3	5.1	2.22
9 NLCS							4	8	.333	3.67	17	14	1	0	0	1	88.1	89	52	36	6	26	8	67	5	0	3	390	1.302	9.1	0.6	2.6	6.8	2.58
3 WS							2	3	.400	2.09	5	5	0	1	0	0	38.2	28	13	9	1	7	1	18	1	0	0	148	0.905	6.5	0.2	1.6	4.2	2.57

Mantle7 · 09-26-12, 05:37 PM

Pedro has the better numbers in October. Pedro it is.

rm18 · 09-26-12, 05:41 PM

Greg Maddux topped out at 94mph when he was younger

homerbush · 09-26-12, 05:44 PM

Pedro had some of the best season's of all time when compared to averages for the era.

str · 09-26-12, 05:51 PM

Two great pitchers for sure.

Loved how Maddux fielded his position.