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  • foreclosuregods
    SBR Rookie
    • 09-09-08
    • 42

    #1
    Whats peoples experience betting PLEASERS?
    Specifically, where you give more points for a greater payout!

    Thoughts?
  • Brady2Moss
    SBR MVP
    • 07-02-08
    • 1500

    #2
    sucker bet
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    • foreclosuregods
      SBR Rookie
      • 09-09-08
      • 42

      #3
      Originally posted by Brady2Moss
      sucker bet
      Brady:

      I took the following bet as it only cost me $29.41. If they cover...I win $500.

      Carolina Panthers -2½
      Detroit Lions/San Francisco 49ers over 52 for Game
      Cleveland Browns -4

      Thoughts?
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      • jtuck
        SBR MVP
        • 02-18-08
        • 2051

        #4
        2 team pleasers pay about +550 for a reason, very hard to hit.
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        • BadBeatBodog
          SBR MVP
          • 06-05-08
          • 1006

          #5
          I would only stick to two teamers. If you really like two teams in a week and bet them expecting blow outs, why not put a unit on a six point pleaser? As for your specific pleaser I think Cleveland blows it but BOL.
          "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

          "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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          • ShamsWoof10
            SBR MVP
            • 11-15-06
            • 4827

            #6
            I think there is a lot of value in pleasers... If you notice they are not offered at many shops...

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            • foreclosuregods
              SBR Rookie
              • 09-09-08
              • 42

              #7
              Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
              I think there is a lot of value in pleasers... If you notice they are not offered at many shops...

              What do you think of my picks above then? Would be interesting if you sence they will cover. Not a bad risk given my investment.

              Thoughts?
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              • ShamsWoof10
                SBR MVP
                • 11-15-06
                • 4827

                #8
                Originally posted by foreclosuregods
                What do you think of my picks above then? Would be interesting if you sence they will cover. Not a bad risk given my investment.

                Thoughts?
                Well I think if you lose any it won't be because of the pleaser... I like them actually but a little shaky on Cleveland because the DB's can't cover a bed...

                In general I think favorites win more then half the time and the spread doesn't matter MOST of the time so for the payout I think two or three teamers have very good value... I will add that I think there is more value in college lines especially hoops then pro lines...

                Come to think of it I don't know of a book that offers college pleasers on football and/or hoops... Must be a reason for that... The Cris family of books no longer offer them anymore either... figures...
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                • Brady2Moss
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-02-08
                  • 1500

                  #9
                  If you can Please totals then you could easily find some winners, but the only Peasers I have seen are NFL sides at 5dimes...

                  And in the NFL sides are as sharp as they come, so it will not be easy. Dont please any sides, totals only and then you have a chance. also, NEVER please an under.
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                  • ShamsWoof10
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-15-06
                    • 4827

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brady2Moss
                    If you can Please totals then you could easily find some winners, but the only Peasers I have seen are NFL sides at 5dimes...

                    And in the NFL sides are as sharp as they come, so it will not be easy. Dont please any sides, totals only and then you have a chance. also, NEVER please an under.
                    BOL has NCAA Football pleasers.. I may have to deposit in there just for that...

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                    • foreclosuregods
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 09-09-08
                      • 42

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brady2Moss
                      If you can Please totals then you could easily find some winners, but the only Peasers I have seen are NFL sides at 5dimes...

                      And in the NFL sides are as sharp as they come, so it will not be easy. Dont please any sides, totals only and then you have a chance. also, NEVER please an under.
                      What is an "NFL SIDE" ?
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                      • Brady2Moss
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-02-08
                        • 1500

                        #12
                        Wow, I guess you really are a SBR Rookie, no worries tho...

                        sportsbeginners.com

                        I made this website a while ago to help out the rookies, check it out

                        Also a "side" is a point spread bet.

                        Ie. New England Patriots -13 (this is a side)
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                        • Brady2Moss
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-02-08
                          • 1500

                          #13
                          NFL sides are the sharpest lines in the world (any sport) and by sharp I mean that there is literally a 50% chance of either "side" winning (against the spread) no other point spread will be this sharp... Sharpness is really the difference between the implied probability (the point spread) and the actual probability (the "true" point spread, nobody knows this number but from thousands of games the linesmakers are usually spot on) Therefore NFL sides are insanely sharp, and I recommend you stay the hell away from them.
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                          • Brady2Moss
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-02-08
                            • 1500

                            #14
                            If you dont understand what im talking about here is an example for you...

                            Betting an NFL side is like betting on the flip of a coin at these odds

                            Heads -105
                            Tails -105

                            You are essentially betting on a 50/50 draw that pays less than even money (ie you will LOSE)

                            The only way you can beat an NFL spread is if you find an error in a line, which is possible but very difficult to do on a regular basis, that is why nobody can consistently beat NFL sides (over 10+ years), its impossible.
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                            • eidolon
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-02-08
                              • 9531

                              #15
                              Originally posted by foreclosuregods
                              Brady:

                              I took the following bet as it only cost me $29.41. If they cover...I win $500.

                              Carolina Panthers -2½
                              Detroit Lions/San Francisco 49ers over 52 for Game
                              Cleveland Browns -4

                              Thoughts?
                              I personally don't see any of those hitting. Then again, I'm 1-8 this year so far, so you might not want to listen to me
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                              • BadBeatBodog
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-05-08
                                • 1006

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Brady2Moss
                                If you dont understand what im talking about here is an example for you...

                                Betting an NFL side is like betting on the flip of a coin at these odds

                                Heads -105
                                Tails -105

                                You are essentially betting on a 50/50 draw that pays less than even money (ie you will LOSE)

                                The only way you can beat an NFL spread is if you find an error in a line, which is possible but very difficult to do on a regular basis, that is why nobody can consistently beat NFL sides (over 10+ years), its impossible.
                                Brady I have to respectfully disagree. You can consistently do well if your stats analysis predicts teams that rise and fall each year. For the first half of the season you are taking advantage of lines where the public perception is way off on teams, and the second half of the season, after you've gathered enough data, you can compare teams in-depth. For example, how teams do against #1,#2,#3 WRs, TE, and RB. How offensive and defensive lines run and stop the run in a certain direction (left guard, up the middle, etc...) I could go on...

                                Obviously, knowing which teams are over/under-rated going into the year is easier said than done but it is possible because of certain factors, such as regression for certain areas of a team or fumble luck.

                                It may be books setting the lines, but they are set around public perception. Have more info that the majority of NFL bettors and you will know which lines are off.
                                "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                • I.R.B
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-12-08
                                  • 3209

                                  #17
                                  Pleasers=Losers
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                                  • foreclosuregods
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 09-09-08
                                    • 42

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Brady2Moss
                                    Wow, I guess you really are a SBR Rookie, no worries tho...

                                    sportsbeginners.com

                                    I made this website a while ago to help out the rookies, check it out

                                    Also a "side" is a point spread bet.

                                    Ie. New England Patriots -13 (this is a side)
                                    I'm familiar with the the Spread....but never heard the "spread" be termed a "side"

                                    P.S. I disagree with your assessment about YOU CAN'T WIN...yes long term...I agree...but you can pick your spots !!!
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                                    • I.R.B
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-12-08
                                      • 3209

                                      #19
                                      If you do win a pleaser i will be speechless... Pleasers are just traps for people who love the looks of making $20 turn in to $200... The books will always get the last laugh...
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                                      • foreclosuregods
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 09-09-08
                                        • 42

                                        #20
                                        It will be interesting to see if my 3 team pleaser will cover. What do you think of mine below?

                                        Carolina Panthers -2½
                                        Detroit Lions/San Francisco 49ers over 52 for Game
                                        Cleveland Browns -4

                                        These seem to be VERY doable!
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