Week 1, it's teaser time again. Time for more profits

[Lippsman]

I will be using Betjamaica, 5dimes and Pinny for my wagers. I will try to post from Betjam and 5dimes for the most part where a good number of you are not using Pinny anymore.

I will be playing 6,6.5,7, 10 and 13 pt teasers. The 10 and 13 will be very rarely played.

Ties on teasers revert down to next lowest teaser, ties on a team teaser is no action. Ties on a 10 or 13 pt teaser is no action

The odds will be posted for the teasers,

And away we go.

Wagers made at Betjam

2 team 6pt teaser, 1 to 1.1

Ravens +7.5
Eagles -2

2 team 7pt teaser, 1 to 1.3

Chargers -2
Colts -2.5

BOL everyone

[ipickwinners]

y would u tease games? u do know that in the end 90% of the time the lines do not matter. just be confident in ur picks and in the end those extra points will not matter and u end up losing money u could have won. they r called teasers for a reason! the books r teasing u because ur too dumb to know the line doesnt matter

[Lippsman]

The reason I tease games is that I win with them.

And for the name calling I count people like you that are dumb that keep responding like this so they stay under the radar.

There is a method to my teasers and astute posters will see how I am doing them and why teaser payouts were changed because of the way they are played.

GL on your games today

[dwaechte]

Just ignore people like that Lippsman, best of luck this week.

[ipickwinners]

there is no value in these. like i said, 90% of the time the lines dont matter

[Lippsman]

Just ignore people like that Lippsman, best of luck this week.

Thank you dwaechte,

One of the reasons I started posting over here was to get away from the kiddie stuff like that. I like to post in a place that isn't full of BS.

Heaven knows the place I usually hang out is full of it.

Thanks again and GL on your games today'

[mikeb104]

y would u tease games? u do know that in the end 90% of the time the lines do not matter. just be confident in ur picks and in the end those extra points will not matter and u end up losing money u could have won. they r called teasers for a reason! the books r teasing u because ur too dumb to know the line doesnt matter

Ummmm......unless Lippsman is a newbie to gambling (you should do your research before typing), then he probably knows what he is doing. I believe he is just putting up his plays, and not asking for advice on whether you or anybody else thinks that teasing is a good strategy or not.


BTW, spellcheck.

[mikeb104]

L-

I'm on the other side of that Ravens play, but the points you get put you + a touchdown, so hopefully we both win.


GL with your plays today.

[nysmoneyman]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-football-handicapping/99423-4-0-4-team-teasers-ncaa-football-saturday-recap.html

50-50 ATS NCAA football 9-6-08
4-0 (4 team teasers)

[Lippsman]

L-

I'm on the other side of that Ravens play, but the points you get put you + a touchdown, so hopefully we both win.


GL with your plays today.

Hey Mike,

Well that's what I am banking on, that being crossing the 7 point number with the hook. I thought long and hard about that part of the teaser. But even with the problems that the Ravens will have this year, I have hard time believing that the Bengirls should ever be favored on the road.

Hope we see a Bengirls 3-7 point win.

Thanks for the comments. Looks like you did do your research.

[ipickwinners]

this is grade school, i dont give a **** how i spell. and this is a public forum, i can post what i want even if he doesnt want advice about his plays. whats the point of posting plays with no story behind the plays anyway? ill post what i want, and btw there is still no point in teasing games

[WestsidePete]

This is a teaser play I'm doing

3 team 10 pt
St Louis +18.5
New Orleans +7
Cincinnati +8

[BadBeatBodog]

You seem to know what you're doing teasing across the 3 and 7. BOL sir!

[ipickwinners]

ya its a real good thing u teased those games, esp. since they didnt need those points just like i said, u lost money on this

[Lippsman]

ya its a real good thing u teased those games, esp. since they didnt need those points just like i said, u lost money on this

Good thing I teased those last two games, I saved money by not playing them both straight.

[ipickwinners]

uh no what im saying if u like parlaying plays then just do it straight and get better odds.... like i pointed out... 90% of the games the LINE DOES NOT MATTER. its there just to f u c k with ur head


out of the 14 games played, only two games were decided by 2 point or less when dealing with the spread

[Lippsman]

Yeah I know most of the time just picking the team you think will win is usually the way to go. But I like crossing key numbers with the teasers.

BTW, I can't find it now but your 90% number seems a bit high. I'm sure someone here has the exact stats. I know it's a good clip, but I was thinking it was about in the upper 60% range.

[ipickwinners]

90% be a bit high, but i bet its at least in the 70% range

[Lippsman]

Yeah, upper 60's or 70%. Pretty much the same thing. I will find the stats somewhere

[ipickwinners]

well so far 2 out of 14 for this week the line did matter...

[BadBeatBodog]

Prove that ipickwinners. Show me evidence that over several years "the lines don't matter."

Teasing games can be very +EV but you have to know what you're doing and always tease across three and seven.

[ipickwinners]

i cannot show u statistical information over the years. but i know its true. do what u want, really not too worried about it, just trying to tell u my 2 cents

[BadBeatBodog]

But you are wrong ipickwinners. The fact of the matter is, NFL scoring comes in bunches, most often seven and three, resulting in a large number of scores having a difference of three or seven. Teasers can take advantage of that by teasing across the three and seven. Ever heard of Wong Teasers? If not, educate yourself, because you obviously believe teasers are a bad bet and that's simply not true.

[ipickwinners]

hm ok... i guess today was a terrible example of all 4 of ur games u teased, teasing the number had no affect on the outcome?

[BadBeatBodog]

The teaser I did today was not a Wong teaser, therefore it was probably -EV to begin with. I won't make that mistake again.

Are you really going to try and use ONE weekend (the first weekend of the season, no less, where assumptions about teams can be very off) as proof that teasers are useless? Do the research and you will find you are wrong.

[BadBeatBodog]

I will help you out:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=11979246

[ipickwinners]

straight bets r fine with me. the line doesnt matter

[Lippsman]

I will help you out:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...umber=11979246

Glad someone else here knows about Wong

Thanks Badbeat,

I always run into someone on every board that has read or been told that teasers are just sucker bets and should not be made. Usually it's a younger poster that just doesn't know the math or theory behind them. No offense anyone, we have all been there sometime.

Although now people have the luxury of actually being able to research the net for information like this. Back when I stated making wagers in the early 80's you had to do the math yourself or maybe you were lucky enough to have some grizzled vets that didn't know the math, but could see what was happening from experience. I had a little of both.

Now teasing games just for the sake of teasing them is a bad idea. But using the key numbers and math behind your picks, you have a powerful weapon. In fact books changed the payouts on 6pt teasers because of them winning so much. Used to be that you could get an even payoff with them. Now the best you will find is -110. There may be a couple with a EV payoff still, but I don't think you will find them ranked very high here.

But ipickwinners is correct in his assessment on just picking the winner of the game. If you can do that you will win a good deal of the time.

Thanks for your input .

[arpeggiomeister]

straight bets r fine with me. the line doesnt matter

I have used teasers and made money with them. The line does matter. I had the Pats -5.5, Cowboys +4, and Eagles +2.5 in a 10 point teaser. Without the 10 points on the Pats I would have lost this bet. They were -15.5 when I placed that bet. If Brady had remained healthy than I think they could have beat that line, but unexpected things happen. By playing a teaser I turned a losing bet into a winner.

If you are confident enough in your picks to beat the line every time than my hat is off to you.