is this Packers team the greatest team in NFL history?

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  • Big Bear
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    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #1
    is this Packers team the greatest team in NFL history?
    Better than the 72 Dolphins?
  • face
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    • 01-31-11
    • 14740

    #2
    a lot of people think the '86 bears were the shit
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    • PAULYPOKER
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      • 12-06-08
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      #3
      No, their offense ranks up there,but their defense is average at best leaving them vulnerable to a well balanced team.

      Remember, Defense wins championships always and forever.............
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      • chargers4222
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        • 01-16-10
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        #4
        the 2008 lions are infinitely better than the 1972 dolphins. you are dense
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        • lakerboy
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          • 04-02-09
          • 94379

          #5
          the 72 dolphins were a shit team.


          the best team ever is the 89 49ers.
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          • GunShard
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            • 03-05-10
            • 10032

            #6
            If the Packers go undefeated and win another Super Bowl. Then yes.
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            • ManBearPig
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              • 12-04-08
              • 2473

              #7
              Everyone thought the Pats in 08 were the best, how'd that work out? That 89' niner team was nasty. I was 9 and I even remember them killin it.
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              • beerman2619
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                • 12-24-09
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                #8
                89 49ers best team ever
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                • AL1322
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                  • 12-07-09
                  • 1944

                  #9
                  im a huuge cheesehead..have been my whole life...but aaron rodgers makes this team go...if matt flynn was at qb they would be 8-8 at best..best player right now yes..best team ever..not even close
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                  • AL1322
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-07-09
                    • 1944

                    #10
                    i hate the cowboys..but those cowboy teams with aikman,irvin,emmitt,johnston, and a huge offensive line were pretty good
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                    • blankoblanco
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                      • 11-18-11
                      • 3500

                      #11
                      depends what you mean by "better"

                      if the context is that the '72 dolphins time travel here and play the NFL game against these packers now, the packers would be better. athletecism and talent have reached new heights since then. there are simply far more extremely talented players competing to get into the NFL and then once they get there, competing to start

                      however if the question is more about who was the most dominant team in their time, you can't crown the packers yet. their defense continues to be a liability and keeps them from being as dominant an overall team as some in the past have been
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                      • PAULYPOKER
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                        • 12-06-08
                        • 36581

                        #12
                        Pittburgh Steelers 74-75-78 79 take your pick because there never was and never will be a more intimidating and dominating dynasty as this one.........




                        STEEL CITY MAFIA!!!
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                        • k13
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                          • 07-16-10
                          • 18104

                          #13
                          Not even the best Packers team of all time.
                          Not even a top 10 team all time.

                          Not dominating, No D, beatings scrubs after scrubs in flag football era with flag happy refs.

                          Not one impressive game all year.
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                          • Mr Handicapable
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                            • 09-23-07
                            • 6067

                            #14
                            Originally posted by k13
                            Not even the best Packers team of all time.
                            Not even a top 10 team all time.

                            Not dominating, No D, beatings scrubs after scrubs in flag football era with flag happy refs.

                            Not one impressive game all year.

                            Comeon? A QB with the best season in NFL history has to be worth something? They've enforced the same rules the same way for about 7 years now. GBs O-line has also been banged up all year. They easily beat Chicago and Atlanta on the road. I guess SFs win over 4-6 Philly was more impressive even though they allowed 500 yards and only won because Henery missed 2 chipshots where either one wins the game. Top ten all-time probably not....but who is in the salary cap era? Dallas and SF in the 90s managed to hog most of the top talent but you don't see that now.
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                            • d00d
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                              • 10-23-11
                              • 238

                              #15
                              ****. NO.
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                              • lakerboy
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                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94379

                                #16
                                Originally posted by beerman2619
                                89 49ers best team ever

                                of the modern era yes.


                                they won their 3 playoff games by a 126-26 total score. all 3 playoff games were over at the half.

                                they had a +189 point diff in the reg season. Joe Montana had the highest qb rating off all time up to that point. they lost two games by 5 combined points.

                                You prob never watched football back then or you must have been drunk when you made your post. This team was incredibly good.
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                                • PackerBacker
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                                  • 08-17-11
                                  • 387

                                  #17
                                  I just don't know if this Packer team can stand up to the mighty Packers of 1921
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                                  • k13
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                                    • 07-16-10
                                    • 18104

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                    Comeon? A QB with the best season in NFL history has to be worth something? They've enforced the same rules the same way for about 7 years now. GBs O-line has also been banged up all year. They easily beat Chicago and Atlanta on the road. I guess SFs win over 4-6 Philly was more impressive even though they allowed 500 yards and only won because Henery missed 2 chipshots where either one wins the game. Top ten all-time probably not....but who is in the salary cap era? Dallas and SF in the 90s managed to hog most of the top talent but you don't see that now.
                                    If they go 16-0 and win the Super Bowl then they can be put up there with all time greats.

                                    So far it is way to early to say. They could be like the 1998 Vikings....
                                    The rules are not the same. You can't hit anyone, you can't touch the QB, DB's are left helpless.

                                    They have not played the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Niners, Cowboys, Eagles,

                                    Easily beat Chicago and Atlanta??? phantom call from a 3 point game and barely beating atlanta while losing most of the game is "easily" beating some one?

                                    Chicago and Atlanta are barely playoff teams. Bottom of the top teams. Easily is 45-3.

                                    You think Green Bay would go to Pitt, NE, Bal and easily win? Can't be serious. Those teams are not even that good themselves....

                                    Toughest two games coming up, we'll see what happens. Kind of a joke when your toughest games are Lions and Giants....but I guess you play what you are given.

                                    You can laugh at the Niners but look what they did to Tampa and what Green Bay did to Tampa.
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                                    • k13
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                                      • 07-16-10
                                      • 18104

                                      #19
                                      1996 Packers better...
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                                      • mgcolby
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-19-07
                                        • 950

                                        #20
                                        They will lose tomorrow. So no not the best team ever. To Rodgers credit he is doing what a player with his talent should do, shred bad teams.

                                        I will pre-face this by saying you play who is on your schedule and good teams should beat bad teams. But they have had a cupcake schedule to this point. Their defense is at best average and have not played a good offense that was clicking since week 1. They caught Chicago before Mike Martz figured out that 7 step drops are not conducive to good line play, when your line sucks. Rivers has been struggling all year and still put up 38 against them. Ryan has been struggling all season. They have played the inept Vikings twice, and the Rams.

                                        Last week they gave up 26 points to the Bucs a team that coming in was AVG 15.8 PPG over their previous four games. If you stretch it back to 5 it gets worse...13.2 PPG.

                                        GB's opponents average 21.8 PPG scored and GB is giving up 21.2 PPG. So they are holding their opponents to less than 1 ppg below their average.And that has been helped a lot by Chicago's recent offensive resurgence. Either way, that is not good, and I think it will come back to bite em.

                                        Rodgers covers up a lot for an at best average O-line. They have really good depth at WR. But they can't run the ball and they don't play very good defense. I'm not sure that is a recipe for winning in GB come January.
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                                        • mgcolby
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-19-07
                                          • 950

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                          Pittburgh Steelers 74-75-78 79 take your pick because there never was and never will be a more intimidating and dominating dynasty as this one.........




                                          STEEL CITY MAFIA!!!
                                          Roid rage does have a tendency to intimidate folks.
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                                          • yD
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                                            • 03-23-09
                                            • 312

                                            #22
                                            What a joke. Everytime there is a team that is trying to go undefeated, and it is pretty often now in the sad state that the league is in, people come out asking this question.

                                            Why do you think every other year we have a team threatening the 72 Dolphins? Is it because we are just blessed to be in such a GREAT era with so many great players and teams? Of course not. The league has never been this bad, which is why whenever there is a really good team with an awesome QB, they dominate the rest of this crap league.

                                            Same thing with the quarterbacks. Records are being broken every year and it ain't because the QBs are just so damn awesome. What a coincidence after they change all of the rules to help the QB records are being broken.

                                            In baseball, there was a reason home run records were being broken every year. Well, same in football. Not because of cheating, but there is a reason.

                                            Rodgers is great, Manning is great, Brady is great, but put them in the 80s or especially 90s and they are right there with Elway, Marino, etc.

                                            Same with the teams. Put this Packers, the 07 Pats, all the great Colts teams, put them in 1993 NFL. If you think they would be threatening to go undefeated every year you are crazy. This NFL is garbage.
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                                            • Mr Handicapable
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-23-07
                                              • 6067

                                              #23
                                              [quote=k13;12473117]If they go 16-0 and win the Super Bowl then they can be put up there with all time greats.

                                              So far it is way to early to say. They could be like the 1998 Vikings....
                                              The rules are not the same. You can't hit anyone, you can't touch the QB, DB's are left helpless.

                                              They have not played the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Niners, Cowboys, Eagles,

                                              Easily beat Chicago and Atlanta??? phantom call from a 3 point game and barely beating atlanta while losing most of the game is "easily" beating some one?

                                              Chicago and Atlanta are barely playoff teams. Bottom of the top teams. Easily is 45-3.

                                              You think Green Bay would go to Pitt, NE, Bal and easily win? Can't be serious. Those teams are not even that good themselves....

                                              Toughest two games coming up, we'll see what happens. Kind of a joke when your toughest games are Lions and Giants....but I guess you play what you are given.

                                              You can laugh at the Niners but look what they did to Tampa and what Green Bay did to Tampa.[/quote]


                                              Cherry picking aren't you! TB played a grueling MNF with Indy and then had to travel across country. Not the same whatsover. You want to compare....SF beat Detroit on a 4th down throw so lets see how GB does on 3 days rest. GB has alot of flaws and probably won't go undefeated but its the same exact rules that Polian got changed when NE grabbed Indy's WRs and then mugged the Rams receivers in the SB that same year. Belechick...if you ain't cheating then you ain't trying.
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                                              • Mr Handicapable
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                                                • 09-23-07
                                                • 6067

                                                #24
                                                Also K13....don't know how old you are but who do you think invented West coast offense where the receivers run picks for each other and throw it 40x a game? That would be Bill Walsh and SF. Blame them for the modern basketball on grass game. Hell even the Steelers are soft now!
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                                                • poochiecollins
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                                                  • 01-27-09
                                                  • 1782

                                                  #25
                                                  is this Packers team the greatest team in NFL history?
                                                  No.
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                                                  • pensfan
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                                                    • 08-22-10
                                                    • 46

                                                    #26
                                                    No.
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                                                    • HENHOUSE
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                                                      • 11-23-11
                                                      • 57

                                                      #27
                                                      this post was stupid from the beginning...hahaha
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                                                      • meader99
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                                                        • 10-30-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by k13
                                                        If they go 16-0 and win the Super Bowl then they can be put up there with all time greats.

                                                        So far it is way to early to say. They could be like the 1998 Vikings....
                                                        The rules are not the same. You can't hit anyone, you can't touch the QB, DB's are left helpless.

                                                        They have not played the Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Niners, Cowboys, Eagles,

                                                        Easily beat Chicago and Atlanta??? phantom call from a 3 point game and barely beating atlanta while losing most of the game is "easily" beating some one?

                                                        Chicago and Atlanta are barely playoff teams. Bottom of the top teams. Easily is 45-3.

                                                        You think Green Bay would go to Pitt, NE, Bal and easily win? Can't be serious. Those teams are not even that good themselves....

                                                        Toughest two games coming up, we'll see what happens. Kind of a joke when your toughest games are Lions and Giants....but I guess you play what you are given.

                                                        You can laugh at the Niners but look what they did to Tampa and what Green Bay did to Tampa.
                                                        There are a lot of folks bringing up this Tampa Bay game. Ever look at the situation? Green Bay played a divisional opponent on the Monday night before, and travel to a divisional opponent 4 days after Tampa. It was a classic let down spot and they came away with the victory. Comparing what SF did to Tampa against what Green Bay did to Tampa? Might as well bring up what Green Bay did to SF last year.......
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                                                        • Serbone
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-21-09
                                                          • 1300

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                          Better than the 72 Dolphins?
                                                          NO, GB is not the best team in NFL history.
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                                                          • dlunc3
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 10-31-09
                                                            • 9129

                                                            #30
                                                            the 2007 pats team was better then them... offensively, and BY FAR, NOT EVEN CLOSE defensively
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                                                            • shocktopme
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 10-15-10
                                                              • 940

                                                              #31
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                                                              89 Niners!!!!!Hands down!!!!
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                                                              • GunShard
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                                                                • 03-05-10
                                                                • 10032

                                                                #32
                                                                Aaron Rodgers plays similar to Joe Montana.
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                                                                • VTranX
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                                                                  • 02-02-10
                                                                  • 1975

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Not even close.
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                                                                  • p19101
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                                                                    • 11-17-11
                                                                    • 1419

                                                                    #34
                                                                    This was said about the Patriots a few seasons ago, Giants proved the believers wrong. Will they perhaps shut Rodgers down this season? I sure hope so, wipe that grin off his face...
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                                                                    • ThisGuy
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-12-10
                                                                      • 517

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                                                      Also K13....don't know how old you are but who do you think invented West coast offense where the receivers run picks for each other and throw it 40x a game? That would be Bill Walsh and SF. Blame them for the modern basketball on grass game. Hell even the Steelers are soft now!
                                                                      No that would be Sid Gillman w/ the AFL Chargers and later on w/ the Chargers in the 70's w/ Coryell. What you said is the normal platitude that the announcers spew though
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